Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #56 I've got 99 filters but a pool filter ain't one

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EllaBella89

Thank you dear, I’ve definitely learned to stay calm in chaos I’ve had excellent therapy and went away to uni to study film, and ended up training as a SFX makeup artist and have worked in film and TV. I didn’t escape completely unscathed, as I have BPD but that’s something I largely have under control now. So there's light at the end of the tunnel for anyone in a similar situation. We’re all different though, and everyone handles trauma in different ways. But I told myself I won’t let generational trauma be the end of me, and I wanted to break that cycle. I was SA by the boyfriend of a family member at a young age, and saw a lot of violence growing up. My grandmother (who has passed now) was herself abused, so I’ve forgiven her.
I hope the girls can get away and go to college, because Alice seems to want them to stay her babies forever, as I think she’s petrified of being alone. I hope they’ll be able to mend their relationship with their father, and if not, get a little older and see the situation and the PA for what it was.
 
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Babsi

I can't like your comment enough, especially your "what if".

All of this could have been completely different, less painful and damaging for everyone involved, if one person who claims to love her children could jump over her shadow and think and act in a rational manner for their good. Everyone has the right to be hurt and angry about being left after a long relationship, but nothing excuses her actions for the past year. Narc rage pure and she must be stopped from continuing to hurt those children. Parental alienation is a form of child abuse.
 
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Knitwit

Ioan has every right to move on and I am not suggesting he doesn't. As far as the children were concerned their dad was away working. With less than a month to go from his return suddenly they find out via Instagram and their raging mother that there is a new person and a dog factored into the equation. The person who they have never met has spent the past two months in a luxury resort with their dad and is now living with him when they haven't seen him for months. Children of that age don't think logically, they think emotionally. I feel that Ioan and Bianca are operating on a different timeline and this is an established relationship of some standing which is another aspect of why when the relationship started is relevant and I think the 'this is our new life' aspect for the children is ill-considered and thoughtless. There is no reason why they shouldn't live together, but keep it off social media until the girls have had a formal introduction
 
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CarrierPigeon

Exactly my thoughts! Going around in circles and debating the same rehashed things are unhealthy and a massive waste of time, in my opinion. I’ve invested a lot of time on this thread but not nearly as much as some!

IHateHadargoyle said:
Thank you. Many of us have tried to say as much and all for nought.
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I’ve said something similar and was warned and my post was taken down!

IHateHadargoyle said:
Thank you. Many of us have tried to say as much and all for nought.
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I’ve said something similar and was warned and my post was taken down!
 
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PinkyWinky

Another interesting spin-off for ppl interested in MH is googling Munchausen by internet. Holy bananas, vampires are real.
It’s also an insight into how seriously people can depend on the attention and sympathy they get online. Making up health and MH conditions. Or just demanding sympathy all the time like AE does, there’s a whole world of deluded and needy out there.
 
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Knitwit

I find it odd the way that Alice constantly changes the ages of her daughters. Big E is 13, the next day she is 12, same with little E, one minute she is 8, the next she is 6
 
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Bridgeofsighs

It's hard to know given the PA. They may be ignoring his calls and texts or have blocked his number. Ella was sending him nasty texts apparently, no doubt guided by "mom of the year".

It was 9 years actually but then AE is 5 years older. She even complained that IG's mum was against abortion. No shit Alice. She's a chapel woman, I think they are called that in Wales.
 
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BigBonedBuzzard

Ha, now I wonder if Ioan informed his parents about Bianca or did they learn about her from the tabloids? I know Alice is dead set that they've all come to France to hang out, but I really doubt that. But who knows?
 
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accidentally_in_the_mix

I agree, she's trying to show that they do more than just sit around the house, wonder if her lawyer suggested they get out more? On the plus side, I am glad that they are finally getting out of the house and doing fun stuff.
 
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NarcRage

Absolutely and in an ideal world and if Alice wasn't such a rage filled narc she would have explained to the girls and eased them into the new situation. That is all on her.
But....you have to factor in the person you are dealing with and adapt your 'strategy.' I've thought about this a lot. Why should they hide? Why shouldn't they be able to live their lives and post what they like?
Well they should be able to.
But unfortunately in my view they have to factor in the ammunition they are creating for yet more alienation and what those girls are going to think when they see these posts.
And Alice will show them because she doesn't give a shit. So someone has to give a shit and that should be IG.

BigBonedBuzzard said:
Ha, now I wonder if Ioan informed his parents about Bianca or did they learn about her from the tabloids? I know Alice is dead set that they've all come to France to hang out, but I really doubt that. But who knows?
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Not sure if we are allowed to talk about his parents - but assuming we are - they commented at the time of the split that nobody else was involved. I think that they have been told this by IG. Whether it's true or not I doubt...but I'm sure they believe it.
 
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Knitwit

I think Big E was at a bowling birthday party from the 'picked up bowling behind my back' comment Alice made on the Instagram post, I don't think
Alice was there, another parent sent her the video and it's not that recent either because of the mask issue @Mad Betty mentioned. In standard Alice mode, she replies to a comment saying that girls at school have always been nasty. Wonder what the girls and parents who see that post think of that remark.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

BigBonedBuzzard said:
Ha, now I wonder if Ioan informed his parents about Bianca or did they learn about her from the tabloids? I know Alice is dead set that they've all come to France to hang out, but I really doubt that. But who knows?
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I'm sure they were told in advance. IG is close to his folks.
 
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welp

tbh I dont see any scenario where Alice wouldnt have kicked up the same fuss, either she would have complained about all being too soon or for him stringing her along even more, she keeps saying that if he had said this from this start all would be different, but this is obviously BS given how she is raging about this ever since he filed. And I also think telling it in public first was right, Alice would have leaked it herself first had he told her first anyway.

His main mistake was revealing this while he was a ocean apart from his kids, this is what gave Alice enough time to estrange the younger one enough too, but I reckon his thinking was that it would be better if the kids have more time to prepare for him having somebody new in his life. In theory this is not bad thinking, but he yet again underestimated her evil ways. Obviously then the plan to move with Bianca together snowballed the whole problem too.

(If he indeed told his daughter that he would never have a girlfriend or that he will come back if she is behaving that is indeed a mistake too, but this constant asking about a girlfriend is very suspicious in my mind coming from a 7/8 year old, Alice definitely isnt telling the full truth here)


BigBonedBuzzard said:
Ha, now I wonder if Ioan informed his parents about Bianca or did they learn about her from the tabloids? I know Alice is dead set that they've all come to France to hang out, but I really doubt that. But who knows?
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I mean the only way for Alice to know is if due to Ioan's facetime calls (before Bianca was revealed, but after she arrived in France, so a whole month) she discovered that his parents have visited him in France during that timeframe. She no doubt interrogated the girls about every call or was eavesdropping.

I mean I dont find it unlikely. They havent seen him in years, he is getting divorced, given their age they were probably vaxxed to travel without quarantine etc. etc.
 
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Nesibindi

This will soon be over and Alice will be left howling at the moon. Everyone not directly involved will move on to the next public shit show. (Here's looking at you Prince Andrew)
 
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Bridgeofsighs

accidentally_in_the_mix said:
I agree, she's trying to show that they do more than just sit around the house, wonder if her lawyer suggested they get out more? On the plus side, I am glad that they are finally getting out of the house and doing fun stuff.
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I'm going to take credit for that.

AE complained that IG had taken the kids fun away. I wanted to know why she didn't take them to the beach etc.. and yes I believe she lurks here.

And lo and behold she did, plus bowling. She is also trying to prove what a good mom she is for the lawyers. She may be scared IG will get full custody. She spent the last year proving she is a shit mother though so it may be too little too late.
 
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Knitwit

I absolutely agree. I get that Ioan and Bianca should live their best life and not give a shit about what Alice dictates, but the fact is Alice is Alice. We've devoted numerous threads to her behaviour and if anyone knows what Alice is like, it is Ioan.
Ioan's parents are very religious so even if there was someone else who propelled him out of the marriage, I doubt he would have told them till later down the line. Bianca follows and is followed by his brother on Instagram so his family would have been told before Alice found out. Also Bianca's sister calling Ioan, 'Yo' when the reveal came out shows familiarity
 
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Nesibindi

She better be careful with her spending. She does not have a job, so final calculations might surprise her. If all she has is her share of the house, she might not get what she thinks she will. Calculations will start from date of separation.
 
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NarcRage

Realistically ...knowing what we now know about BW's MS is he going to want full custody? Is this a tactic (threaten to go for sole custody) to get her to comply and agree to 50/50 and start being a normal and reasonable human.
Is it actually an empty threat that he has no intention of following through with...?
 
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