Yes abused women usually try (for over a year)to coerce their abusers to visit them alone at their homes. Happens all the time.....And that all it showed was an impassioned reaction from a woman who was abused
Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #71 Alice shouts she’ll win in court, but let’s just look at Ioan’s report…
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You're right, that is a wholly separate issue and the judge would not be able to rule on anything but the petition for the TRO at the hearing yesterday.
I wish I knew, I don't have a clue about the legal side of things especially since it's America where other rules apply.
First time Tattler. I've got to get this off my chest. I'll break this up. Months ago, (before learning of this site and much of the background) I tweeted to Alice. I begged her to please think of her kids and to not let her pain and anger of her divorce affect them. I was sensitive to her feelings. I was attacked within minutes by AE and a few FM's. Got a side dish of word salad from the wolfy one. I was chastised that OF COURSE the kids weren't being affected by the public fighting, how ridiculous was I for thinking that these children would be aware of the issues between their parents?? They're JUST FINE. I was horrified. Complete cognitive dissonance.
I was SO relieved to find this site and find people that were seeing through the utter bs these people were spouting online. I could not shake the sick feeling that these children were being mentally and emotionally abused. To me it was clear that the kids were being brainwashed and alienated from their father. That they were witnessing their mother unravelling behind closed doors. That their mental health must be taking a beating.
These messages I am now reading confirm my worst fears. While this beast of a female was pushing the narrative that she is a great mom and the kids were being held out of the way of the madness the truth was far more insidious. She was behind the scenes actively preventing them from communicating with their father (grabbing the phone, etc) while posting publicly he wanted nothing to do with them. She was encouraging them to hate their father as much as she does without regard for what this will do to them in the future. She is destroying her children mentally solely to hurt someone that dared to leave her behind. THIS is the kind of woman and mother she is. She sees them "having breakdowns", "shaking beside me" and so distressed they are unable to attend school some days. And she is too ignorant and self involved to recognize that SHE is the one causing this suffering for them. YOUR KIDS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF *YOUR* WORDS AND ACTIONS.
These girls will be punished for loving their father and wanting him in their lives. They will be rewarded when they tell him off and shun him. And one day years from now, I HOPE YOU READ THIS ALICE, they WILL recognize the toxicity and manipulation they had inflicted on them by YOU and they will NEVER trust you again. They will realize that you were a scorned woman and you used them as weapons. As pawns in a war. You will have prevented them from having a real father in their lives and stunted their ability to trust and have healthy relationships in the future. They will grow closer to him as he waits patiently and THEY WILL RESENT YOU FOREVER.
Shame on you Alice for allowing your bitterness and hatred to poison your own daughters and set them up for struggles and deficiencies as adults.
I was SO relieved to find this site and find people that were seeing through the utter bs these people were spouting online. I could not shake the sick feeling that these children were being mentally and emotionally abused. To me it was clear that the kids were being brainwashed and alienated from their father. That they were witnessing their mother unravelling behind closed doors. That their mental health must be taking a beating.
These messages I am now reading confirm my worst fears. While this beast of a female was pushing the narrative that she is a great mom and the kids were being held out of the way of the madness the truth was far more insidious. She was behind the scenes actively preventing them from communicating with their father (grabbing the phone, etc) while posting publicly he wanted nothing to do with them. She was encouraging them to hate their father as much as she does without regard for what this will do to them in the future. She is destroying her children mentally solely to hurt someone that dared to leave her behind. THIS is the kind of woman and mother she is. She sees them "having breakdowns", "shaking beside me" and so distressed they are unable to attend school some days. And she is too ignorant and self involved to recognize that SHE is the one causing this suffering for them. YOUR KIDS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF *YOUR* WORDS AND ACTIONS.
These girls will be punished for loving their father and wanting him in their lives. They will be rewarded when they tell him off and shun him. And one day years from now, I HOPE YOU READ THIS ALICE, they WILL recognize the toxicity and manipulation they had inflicted on them by YOU and they will NEVER trust you again. They will realize that you were a scorned woman and you used them as weapons. As pawns in a war. You will have prevented them from having a real father in their lives and stunted their ability to trust and have healthy relationships in the future. They will grow closer to him as he waits patiently and THEY WILL RESENT YOU FOREVER.
Shame on you Alice for allowing your bitterness and hatred to poison your own daughters and set them up for struggles and deficiencies as adults.
I read these pages yesterday. I remember reading her drunken rages on the old Imdb message board. Totally nuts. It was nice to also see people there sticking up for ioanonline as well. I remember the Ladies of the Forum as a fine group of mostly women who supported each other with their life issues, much like what happens here on Tattle. The IG photos, videos and career promotion were just a side salad.
Thank you for explaining that
Lupine is zooming alright, just not while using Zoom.
If the judge thinks it's impossible, surely that makes the permanent RO very likely, no?
It is a physical description for law enforcementDid I misunderstand?
Are you saying her weight and height had to be on the COURT papers???
That seems bizarre
No. I mean difficult people, yes. A couple with NPD. But I would be genuinely afraid of her violating the TRO (and hopefully RO) because she doesn’t think it’s “fair” or applies to her. I would never have taken the case after 10 minutes of Google research. That attorney is in a tough spot.
I know, it's like all sense and decency has left their tiny little brains. I just don't understand. I'm constantly flabbergasted that they side with her when time and time again it's proven she is the perpetrator.
Someone should tell Loopy that the judge decided that Ioan and Bianca have more than duck All as he claimed last night.And that all it showed was an impassioned reaction from a woman who was abused
I would say absolutely…especially with more info coming down the pike.
I have a sick feeling she will try to have the eldest E lie against him....
The fury this will provoke is somewhat terrifying. God I hope those girls are ok. It must be so distressing.It's... ~JUDGMENT DAY~
To summarize, the restraining order was granted. Both Ioan and Bianca are protected from Alice:
- Abusing them (defined in the TRO which I will post)
- Contacting them in any way
- Alice must stay 300 feet/100 yards away from Ioan, Bianca, and their home
- Ioan has been granted the power to record communications made by Alice that violate the TRO.
Screenshots to come.
Same here. I say we have a power nap now, then get the coffee on for when it all hots up
I reckon her attorney threatened to quit unless she got off Twitter
how can he lie if almost everything he said has proof attached to it? LOL
In the middle of all the shocking and serious stuff can we just take a moment to quietly chortle about the fact she was apparently mistaken for a transvestite?
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