my sisters bridesmaid just told us a story that her 14 year old daughter filed a police report against her for "domestic violence". the claim? "mom took my phone" - I sometimes wonder how much of Ella's behavior is actually down to Alice, and how much is down to a pretty rotten generation.
It's wrong to condemn a whole generation. Those with kids who report them to Police over nothing are from parents who struggle to parent. That said, the system in the UK anyway is set up to "support kids." I will give you one example, a single mother had her 6 yo daughter tell the school that her mum beat her with a hanger and the school reported it to Police. Turns out it was all a lie and of course there is no consequences for the kid when they do this. The kid is now on Child Protection although they recognise that the abuse didn't happen. It's because they know the parent is struggling and things could get much worse unless they deal with it.
Look, I think Social Media is important. imagine for example Alice had no social media.
That would be wonderful but we wouldn't have 223 threads either.
so many jumped ship as the community D&L & Alice cultivated for him was very couple driven (a mistake I see them doing again by including Bianca too much, but at least she isn't communicating with them as much and this openly), same also with the first community that was cultivated for him that he then killed himself (this wasn't couple driven, quite the opposite, but it was a community that largely ended up supporting him because of the community)
As for the FB page D&L ran, it was more a question of Alice (yet again) inserting herself in his fandom and trying to make them a package deal (just like she now does with the kids). So it wasn't 'couple driven' it was AE being a narc as usual. As for Bianca, she's not a narc, so it's not the same thing. If, for example, IG leaves BW, and then Lin turns it into a hate site again against IG, then it's the same but I really don't see that happening and BW wouldn't be egging on Lin behind the scenes either. It would be on Lin, not Bianca, if she does the same dumbass routine again but it won't happen imo.
The 'first community' was IoanOnline and it started after Titanic so well before AE came on the scene. So no it wasn't 'couple driven' thank
duck, it was an IG fansite. As for "it was a community that largely ended up supporting him
because of the community" eh no. It was full of quite invested fans (not like the FB page) and he lost 99% of his fanbase when AE told him to stop supporting it. So the 'community' ie fanbase disappeared pretty much after the website vanished though a lot of people went on IMDB boards to vent about the whole nasty outcome of AE's involvement in
his fanbase.
I believe Ioan got a role upgraded in one movie earlier in his career because of his website. Much as Loopy and Alice try to put anything about tattle down as a death sentence his popularity here even could be good for him. The studios don't care which people watch your shows, the key is that someone watches it.
Yes, that was Blackhawk Down although it was still quite a small part that he got but at least it was a speaking part. It would be hilarious if a casting agent saw the 223 threads and decided to cast him based on that. If you google him this comes up but further down the page.
Ioan is in the category of actors that have enough casual fans in his own right (the reaction to him being signed for BB4, and the recent Fantastic 4 chatter shows that), something Alice severly lacks.
That's not all she lacks, she hasn't got an agent, the looks or the talent either and is unpleasant to work with. But it's true, people remember him and in the UK he has reasonable name recognition.
the things he was tried to be forced into (Q&A etc) were silly for someone that doesnt like this sort of thing. I think just having Social Media is already huge. Plenty actors don't even have that. PS: also Social Media can backfire badly. The drama with the FB group shows that doing people favours (his videos are waaaaay more than 99 % of all celebs do) just increases their demands on you. He was seriously lynched for doing too little for fans.
Actually, I don't see it this way. The fact that he funded a website for 2 years shows that he appreciated it, even though officially he was 'hands off' he was feeding the webmistress information and was lurking too (as was Alice sadly). I think where the FB page went wrong was (as usual) through AE's involvement. She groomed D&L and then used them to boost her own profile and bully IG. There is nothing wrong with doing fans a little video (it would be nice if IG and BW did one imo) or the occasional Q&A. It's not wrong to ask for the occasional thing, like picking out a number plus IG can always decline and I don't think BW would try to bully him into it either.
However, Lin got too involved in many ways (like being AE's online bestie) and it seems got herself into a right state when her twitter campaign to get IG another season of Forever flopped. This also shows the limits of SM when a shows numbers just aren't that good. Also he wasn't 'lynched for doing too little for fans', he was lynched online for leaving Alice, the most wonderful woman her gay therapist ever met, and that wasn't allowed apparently. Thankfully the FMs (almost all of them) have wised up and the online lynching is a thing of the past.
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