Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #217 Digging out your minging old rags isn't vintage, it's just manky.

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Cocaine and escorting.. talking about yourself Alice? Live and let live and all that but she’s so stuck on drugs and escorts, makes me think she’s talking about her early beginnings
 
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Alice has some weird ideas about Hollywood where she thinks an affair, doing coke or hiring sex workers is career ending stuff. This is the stuff that fuels Hollywood and showbiz. She tries to paint Ioan as some Wolf of Wall Street-level shagger and party boy but he’s the goodest boy ever from what I can tell. And maybe a bit boring too. No shade to Ioan, he just doesn’t seem like a wild one.
 
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No shade to Ioan, he just doesn’t seem like a wild one.
The wildest thing he ever did was marry that bunny boiler. He has learnt his lesson though. Bianca seems much more like a normal person and a bit vanilla too. They seem well suited.
 
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Lots of tit talk about cocaine use coming from the person who seems to have needed multiple nose jobs :unsure:
 
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Alice created the PA case against herself. All one really needs to do is read her first tweet after Ioan left her, "...he is to leave his family, starting next week..." The smartest person in the room can't deny that she said and posted it. It's on her own account. The PA started before he kept the family home. Even her few remaining ass kisses can't defend this statement.


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Even if you knew nothing about Alice, which I didn't at the beginning of this, this post is so full of red flags. I thought there was something off with her, but then felt guilty for rushing to judge the woman (I'd been reading a lot about internalised misogyny) and then gave her the benefit of the doubt. I mean the "famous" actor leaving his wife and family is such a cliché. But saying he's leaving his family, bringing the young daughters into it, the insinuation that he no longer loves her isn't a good enough reason to leave... But personally I think the PA started long before he left. She was always making digs at him on her SM, mocking him, laughing at him, inviting her fans to laugh at him, treating him as less than her and I have no doubt she was already teaching the girls that, even if only by example. But she also needs to be the most loved person in the room and she was always jealous of the girls and Ioan's love for them.
 
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I don't think she did have. Even if IG used coke, are the same people who he did coke with going to refuse to hire him? LOL The comparison to Kate Moss is not really a good one, she was mega famous and they would have reported on her posting a letter in those days.

AE keeps insinuating she has the goods on IG, but she has nothing. If she did, she would have got one of her 5 lawyers to go after him with it.

I think IG was thoroughly manipulated by AE in those days which is why he understands how the kids are too, when they are far younger and more vulnerable than he ever was. When I look at the engagement story, IG seemed to think AE was some kind of prize. She said to him "If you don't propose, you're out!!" and he said he hurriedly got the ring, instead of saying "Fine", which he should have. He didn't realise he was getting a booby prize, in more ways than one lol! Tits akimbo ftw.
I suppose though it doesn't matter what would actually have happened, it matters what IG thought would happen. Remember the story of him accidentally breaking a shop window and his friends telling him he was going to prison!

God, the noughties were a weird time. There was almost a trend of being "high maintenance" spurred on by that phrase being popularised in Sex and the City. It was seen as funny and cool to be an unreasonable demanding woman (yay sexism) a sort of backlash against the "laddish", "I'm really cool with your binge drinking and addiction to lads mags" thing at the end of the 90s (yay more sexism). I understand why IG thought that was a funny story at the time, even if it's bleeping AWFUL.

It's weird isn't it. He ran off and proposed on command, but the pre-nup is eye-watering. I can't quite work him out on this one!

Edited to remove my HTML. Keep forgetting it's not 2005 and I can just hit the itallics button :ROFLMAO:
 
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She's such a bloody limpet... couldn't she get her own damn fame. Imagine clinging on to someone's identity like that all those years... yuck!
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I suppose though it doesn't matter what would actually have happened, it matters what IG thought would happen. Remember the story of him accidentally breaking a shop window and his friends telling him he was going to prison!

God, the noughties were a weird time. There was almost a trend of being "high maintenance" spurred on by that phrase being popularised in Sex and the City. It was seen as funny and cool to be an unreasonable demanding woman (yay sexism) a sort of backlash against the "laddish", "I'm really cool with your binge drinking and addiction to lads mags" thing at the end of the 90s (yay more sexism). I understand why IG thought that was a funny story at the time, even if it's bleeping AWFUL.

It's weird isn't it. He ran off and proposed on command, but the pre-nup is eye-watering. I can't quite work him out on this one!

Edited to remove my HTML. Keep forgetting it's not 2005 and I can just hit the itallics button :ROFLMAO:

I think Mamma G stepped in with the prenup... which is why Alice has always hated her..
 
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I suppose though it doesn't matter what would actually have happened, it matters what IG thought would happen. Remember the story of him accidentally breaking a shop window and his friends telling him he was going to prison!

God, the noughties were a weird time. There was almost a trend of being "high maintenance" spurred on by that phrase being popularised in Sex and the City. It was seen as funny and cool to be an unreasonable demanding woman (yay sexism) a sort of backlash against the "laddish", "I'm really cool with your binge drinking and addiction to lads mags" thing at the end of the 90s (yay more sexism). I understand why IG thought that was a funny story at the time, even if it's bleeping AWFUL.

It's weird isn't it. He ran off and proposed on command, but the pre-nup is eye-watering. I can't quite work him out on this one!

Edited to remove my HTML. Keep forgetting it's not 2005 and I can just hit the itallics button :ROFLMAO:
Bring back BLINK tags is all I'll say
 
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She's such a bloody limpet... couldn't she get her own damn fame. Imagine clinging on to someone's identity like that all those years... yuck!
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I think Mamma G stepped in with the prenup... which is why Alice has always hated her..
This would explain a lot! (Not that Alice needs a reason to hate anyone. She probably saw Ioan’s mum as competition for his affections too).
 
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She's such a bloody limpet... couldn't she get her own damn fame. Imagine clinging on to someone's identity like that all those years... yuck!
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I think Mamma G stepped in with the prenup... which is why Alice has always hated her..
Maybe! I don't think they were at all common in the UK back then but they were definitely seen as a movie star thing!
 
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That’s what I was wondering too.
I'd think it more likely that Alun wanted nothing to do with Alice and any of her advances or flirtatious inuendos toward him and her memory of his refusals to go along with her pisses her off.
<eta: she seems to think that all males are infatuated with her.>
 
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Alice arrived in Paris as a penniless british gal with the Evans hard work ethnic. She quickly set about working as waitress whilst doing mime work to earn a crust. She lived in a garret with artists, writers and pretty gals like herself. They were called Marcel, Rodolfo, Mimi and Coline. They would dance and party at night and stay warm by buring furniture in their old stove. Alice wrote poetry by the light of a dim candle.

Before you knew it she was dating a millionaire and hanging out paragons of virtue like Jeffrey pedalo Epstein, Cheese String and Ghrisly Maxwell. This was all facilitated by her stellar modelling career. Unfortunately her portfolio of modelling work got destroyed in the great Parisian fire of 1999.

There is nothing to see here at all.

🤣🤣🤣 excellent Rent reference.
 
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Secondly, he is trading one disordered individual for another in controlling his life. We know that Alice is a Narcissist with a capital "N", and can't be trusted to do the right things, ever. She has used his goodwill against him, to create PA, career damage and financial ruin. However, in separating from Bianca in hopes of "fixing" his relationship with his girls, he then gives his power to Ella, and to a lesser degree, Elsie. Ella is a damaged child, with a plethora of issues caused by her mother's parenting. I don't believe she is capable of emotional regulation herself right now, and she is rage filled and hurting. I can only imagine what kind of hoops she would require him to jump through to please her, up to and including apologizing to her mother. Her only truth right now is her mother's lies, and I fear she would want payback.
Leaving aside the issues caused by Alice many young teenagers nowadays have a very distorted thinking of rights vs responsibility. Young teens want the rights of adults these days (or in fact, they want more rights than adults LOL - and society more and more demands parents to grant them those rights because everyone has become crazy), but they dont want the responsibility of adults (mostly the money, eg you cannot command your father around with whom he lives with if he pays the gig) that comes with it. Ella is a very extreme example of that, so much that she has shown a pattern of violence/abuse for not getting her way on this. Whoever has Ella when she is turning 18 will have a tough time to let her know that now she no longer has the choice on the responsibilities. I guess that's the great thing about the option that Ioan may surrender custody at the end (I dont think the court will give Alice ever sole custody), Alice will have to deal at some point with her own creation, if she isn't already (I very much doubt "be a mother/tedious bi*ch)" was the only time they clashed, and this is a occasion where Ella wasnt unreasonable.

She's such a bloody limpet... couldn't she get her own damn fame. Imagine clinging on to someone's identity like that all those years... yuck!
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I think Mamma G stepped in with the prenup... which is why Alice has always hated her..
I suspect manager. Every A/B list actor (which he was) would be advised to with such an heavy imbalance in earning power.

The bit about losing spousal support rights when living 6 months with a new partner is particulary genius. Alice will not find a rich guy that is happy to sponsor her without living together long term (for that rich men have too many options), but she may find someone who wants to be with her without marrying her (most of them already went through a first divorce and losing a lot money), which is the only other realistic legal option to end spousal support - so he closed off a huge loophole here for her. I can only see a Hollywood manager thinking this far ahead.

She seems to constantly go on about how IG used escorts and cocaine, both on her AE and now the NL account. Given how vanilla IG is, it's not the slur on him she thinks it is. That said, she will be telling the kids this too which is totally inappropriate. If, and I mean, if, IG used escorts then AE could only have known if she was going through his texts which she admits she did. Another sign of coercive control. TBH, I would be using cocaine and escorts if I was married to Alice. What would she prefer? An affair, like she had?? Is that better?

It makes me wonder what AE did in Paris, before she became a beard for OP. She might have been an escort and it's just the usual projection. I'm sure she is no stranger to coke either.
this is the thing. Ioan is very boring. Cocaine (obviously only if he isnt doing it while taking alone care of the kids, like Alice drinking and mixing pills) or escorts suddenly would give him some character LMAO



I’ve never understood why Ella claimed B slammed the door on her as she was leaving when Elsie was following right behind Ella. Wouldn’t it have been Elsie who was hit by the slamming door and not Ella who was in front of her? 🤷‍♀️
I guess you can argue that it could be that Elsie was still far enough away from the door to be hit, or she came from the side. Either way the door story makes no sense with the injuries, it only makes sense if you come from outside or if you turn back (like Bianca claimed). They should have gone with the stairs story that Alice's sock initially claimed, but I guess this was no option as soon as it was clear that Iris was there.

Speaking of Iris, how funny that every witness Ioan has is subjected to witness intimidation by Alice and her army. Shows their great confidence, doesnt it?
I thought that too, at first, but when big E repeats her statement as requested by the judge, she replaces "it" with "one person" rather than referencing a document.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt as it's possible that she replaced "it" (the statement) with "one person" to clarify to the judge what exactly she means, but yeah, it's possible.
 
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Oh yes, the famous video. The same video that wasnt allowed in court because it showed nothing, other than Ella having a tantrum and trashing her dad's apartment and pushing a woman with a disability. One day soon, Ella with figure out how much her mother has cost her.

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Oh yes, the famous video. The same video that wasnt allowed in court because it showed nothing, other than Ella having a tantrum and trashing her dad's apartment and pushing a woman with a disability. One day soon, Ella with figure out how much her mother has cost her.

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wait wait wait

the complaint was about Ella's "panic attack"

the panic attack was hours before Ella went to trash her fathers apartment.

what has the "famous video" to do with the panic attack? (a panic attack so severe that Ella was able to call her mom to discuss a new plan)

The way they just cant keep anything straight....
 
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I hope Ioan stays out the request to seal proceedings - i.e. it would be good if the GAL applies for the custody hearing to be sealed because I bet Alice will object to it. And that way she can't spout off that it's Ioan being scared about what will come out or wanting to silence her. Not that facts will get in the way of her claiming anything...
 
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Yep. My 22 yr old son asked if he could have some chocolate. He found my stash. I had to share. I'll need to buy more next time.
Not the choccie stash?! :eek: You'll have to hide it in a better place next time.
 
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Oh yes, the famous video. The same video that wasnt allowed in court because it showed nothing, other than Ella having a tantrum and trashing her dad's apartment and pushing a woman with a disability. One day soon, Ella with figure out how much her mother has cost her.

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"Nothing will probably come of is (sic) but it can't do any harm, even as a gesture of pushing back at the vitriol".


So Alice thinks people making vexatious complaints won't result in negative consequences for them?

And she even admits that she just wants it to be a "gesture". Yes, making a complaint without any merit whatsoever is just a gesture. Let's see how well that goes for the people making the complaints.
 
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To suggest that a doctor/child psychiatrist should have immediately rushed a teenager having a tantrum to the Emergency Room (and to report them for misconduct for not doing so) is just the sort of hysterical, over the top response I would expect from someone with Histrionic Personality Disorder, i.e. Alice.
 
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