Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans#172 Alice Evans Always and Forever Con-ning

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So Malice is trying to convince us that this woman who is shorter than Ella, has lost so much weight, and has to be supported by her partner when out on a dog walk, assaulted Ella and was able to injure her. Yeah, right…Go to hell, Malice, although few people even down there deserve the punishment of your presence.
What did it say.. she's filing something about harassment of her?? There is not a soul within ten thousand miles that would like to spend a minute with her. She has captive minors that can't leave yet. They will though.
 
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I wish I could scoop up Elsie and give her a lovely and stable place, I feel horrible for saying it about a child but I am losing sympathy for Ella, she is old enough to know what is going on, and what is right or wrong. Elsie is such an outdoor girl, and adventerous so would be the perfect fit with I&B.
I find Ella’s behaviour awful, but it’s learned and coached behaviour from an early age.

She was only 11 or so when all this started and she has probably been the most parentified child, due to being the eldest and the “golden child”.

I also think because she‘s tall and looks older than her age, she is made out to be more accountable. I think she is terrified of Alice.

Occasionally we see her turning cartwheels, doing sports and having fun. She might like to be outdoors girl. This is what her life should be like. This and a normal relationship with her dad.

She might stay indoors through depression, anxiety and fear.

MOO
 
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What a coincidence that DAM is obsessed with Deb & Lin, Tamika and Tattle.
It could not be more obvious, I might have a little doubt it if the account name was IamAliceEvans and suspect a stitch up. But otherwise, hi Alice!
 
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A conviction on DV charges may render the convicted abuser ineligible to receive spousal support: https://farzadlaw.com/california-spousal-support/domestic-violence-rebuttable-presumption#
Alice has a domestic violence restraining order against her. From the same source: There does not have to be a conviction for the court to take domestic violence into consideration. Although it does not create the same type of presumption (rebuttable or conclusive), California Family Code 4320(i) states:

"(i) All documented evidence of any history of domestic violence, as defined in Section 6211, between the parties or perpetrated by either party against either party's child, including, but not limited to, consideration of:

(1) A plea of nolo contendere.

(2) Emotional distress resulting from domestic violence perpetrated against the supported party by the supporting party.

(3) Any history of violence against the supporting party by the supported party.

(4) Issuance of a protective order after a hearing pursuant to Section 6340.

(5) A finding by a court during the pendency of a divorce, separation, or child custody proceeding, or other proceeding under Division 10 (commencing with Section 6200), that the spouse has committed domestic violence."

The rules apply to temporary spousal support as well as the final order for support.
 
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I find Ella’s behaviour awful, but it’s learned and coached behaviour from an early age.

She was only 11 or so when all this started and she has probably been the most parentified child, due to being the eldest and the “golden child”.

I also think because she‘s tall and looks older than her age, she is made out to be more accountable. I think she is terrified of Alice.

Occasionally we see her turning cartwheels, doing sports and having fun. She might like to be outdoors girl. This is what her life should be like. This and a normal relationship with her dad.

She might stay indoors through depression, anxiety and fear.

MOO
I have often wondered if mAlice makes Ella stay at home to look after her and do her bidding. She says Ella likes to stay home with her creature comforts but still. 😏
 
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Ok I’m not saying she doesn’t know the basics of right from wrong but I can say that stealing from your dad, while both wrong and illegal, is a bit different to break and enters.....when a child does do stupid tit, in an ideal world, the parent is there to correct it, not encourage it or worse, be the brainchild (lol) of the whole operation. If it were an older man encouraging Ella to incrementally do illegal things against her better judgement, isolating her from those who know this behaviour is not only bad ethically and morally but also lawfully, we’d excuse the child and even call her a victim. It’s called grooming. And as a teen in the 80’s and 90’s, we broke the law at times and didn’t necessarily deserve criminalisation like cramming 11 people in one car or drinking underage. I have stolen cigarettes or a $20 from a parents pocket. Probably worse if I think of it.....
Ella is old enough to have her own mind. She is underage, but she can think. My dad taught me to put salt on snail and kill frogs because they give you warts. I heard what he said, but I never killed snails or frogs. I was younger than her, but wrong is wrong.
 
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While we speculate - and me too 🙋🏻‍♀️ - which door, what door and how it happened, let's not forget everything with Alice is always projection. If some poor innocent door is involved at all with this scenario - I would suspect Bianca is the one who was hurt. 🤷🏻‍♀️ MOO.

Always the Google search is slowly shifting. Hope People picks this up. 🙄
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Wrong age once again but this is them showing everyone that they have done nothing wrong.
That is exactly what I thought too. They are showing that the latest attempt by mAlice is pure bullshit lies
 
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“Ella is old enough to have her own mind. She is underage, but she can think. My dad taught me to put salt on snail and kill frogs because they give you warts. I heard what he said, but I never killed snails or frogs. I was younger than her, but wrong is wrong.”

But your dad maybe was just saying something he was wrongly taught. I was also told salt kills snails, never heard the frog one, and I never kill any garden creatures.

I assume your dad never marched you into the garden and insisted you killed garden creatures.

This relentless, sustained brainwashing of a child, to hate their dad, is like Alice doing just that. If that makes sense.
 
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Ella is old enough to have her own mind. She is underage, but she can think. My dad taught me to put salt on snail and kill frogs because they give you warts. I heard what he said, but I never killed snails or frogs. I was younger than her, but wrong is wrong.
Ioan was a grown man with a bank account and still didn’t make the right decisions or leave when he could and it seems we all agree he’s a victim of Alice and of DV. I’m not sure why there’s a higher expectation for a 13 year old with few resources or why she would be considered a groomed victim if it was anyone but her mom leading her on but your point is fair and I respect that
 
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DAM: Ioan Gruffudd 'fan' who say he already has to have a chaperone when he sees his children. That tells you there have been previous incidents. I dread to think what he may have already put those poor kids through #StopChildAbuse

Playing dumb again? The chaperone is needed due to the risks posed by a weaponised kid.

DAM: They hunted her down, invented stuff she apparently never said then began verbally and physically attacking her daughters. Malicious duo. "Reunification therapy"

🎻🎻🎻 Ioan got the receipts witch. Cope.

DAM: You saw nothing. You're blaming a 13yo for being attacked by a woman who has had a rep for being crazy for years. She has a court date now and she needs to show up and explain why she did what she did. Then you freaks can crawl back into your hole

No court date has been listed.

DAM: Such a pity for him and his family. And his parents. Imagine your son is wonder boy in wales then he meets the Devil and ruins his rep and career and probably theirs too

If the cap fits.. :devilish:

DAM: You couldn't make this up. Ioan's flying monkeys now saying he needed protection from his own kids Folks if a judge orders chaperoned visits it's because the Judge is concerned what the father will do to the children. the sycophants have outed their own hero!

Dumbass

DAM: Explain it to me slowly.. He was worried about what his wife would do, so he protected himself by having a chaperone with him when he was with his own kids? LOFL!If that's true he's even crazier than I thought. Freak show both him and his child abuse loving followers

'his wife' LOL

DAM: Child rape apologist. Child abuse apologist. Do Ioan and Bianca even know you exist?

OMFG 'rape'???

DAM: You're right. If he needed a chaperone there was probably at least one prior incident. All this will come to light. I hope they stay safe an away from him now

Yep the full custody you demanded...

DAM: It gets worse. Flying monkeys now saying 'IG had a strong suspicion Ella would pull this stunt' They would rather accuse a 13 yo of lying than admit their beloved Bianca Wallace is a child abuser.

Ella has previous, Bianca doesn't. Obviously.
She would rather throw her own kids under the bus and run over them than to feel like he's happy and won in any way. She is a self absorbed evil b****. That's exactly why is gone. Some people are just pure able and I think that's her. I wouldn't say it's mental illness. I would just say it's evil ×10.
 
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She'll never let him have any peace, any instance of him being in the public eye for the rest of his life will be haunted by one of her attacks. The restraining order he has against her will surely be shattered repeatedly and she'll only stop when she's jailed. That'll sort her accomodation issues anyway, I wonder will she work in prison to earn money for her commissary...
Imagine the bedazzled number plates she’d make 😬.
 
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“Ella is old enough to have her own mind. She is underage, but she can think. My dad taught me to put salt on snail and kill frogs because they give you warts. I heard what he said, but I never killed snails or frogs. I was younger than her, but wrong is wrong.”

But your dad maybe was just saying something he was wrongly taught. I was also told salt kills snails, never heard the frog one, and I never kill any garden creatures.

I assume your dad never marched you into the garden and insisted you killed garden creatures.

This relentless, sustained brainwashing of a child, to hate their dad, is like Alice doing just that. If that makes sense.
Yes my dad put the salt on them in front of me while they dissolved. He threw dirt clods in the garden at frogs and made their eyes and tongues pop out and told me they gave me warts if I touched them. I said what I said.
 
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While we speculate - and me too 🙋🏻‍♀️ - which door, what door and how it happened, let's not forget everything with Alice is always projection. If some poor innocent door is involved at all with this scenario - I would suspect Bianca is the one who was hurt. 🤷🏻‍♀️ MOO.

Always the Google search is slowly shifting. Hope People picks this up. 🙄
People already did a story
 
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She is of vulnerable kids though who only have her in the world as they are very isolated.

duck me. DAM has had a refill and is back for more!

DAM: Check out the history of Deb and Lyn. The Alice friends who went to the other side and told everybody about their connections with both I and B. I and B are connected with at least half of the Alice bashers. This is becoming more and more interesting. Anyone remember Alice's friends 'Deb' and 'Lyn'? They switched sides at some point. And like true idiots they announced it with a huge banner on FB telling everybody how they had spoken to Ioan and Bianca on the phone! OOOPS!

So bleeping what?

DAM: How did Alice violet her Restraining Order? Like what was the official reason?

LOOOL did Alice colour her RO in with a violet pen? That figures.

DAM: Yes there is a podcast doing the rounds. Bianca tells the interviewer all about her 'role' in Elvis and how she used to 'walk around the lot' with Tom Hanks. The punchline is golden. Interviewer says she can't wait to see it the movie. Bianca: I'm not actually sure I'm in it

tit. DAM could go on Mastermind. Her specialist subject: The career of Bianca Wallace - the Extra.

DAM: Tracy C is a self-admitted 'good friend' of Bianca Wallace's. These jackasses just cannot stop digging their own graves. Screenshot, Tracy. And this person has openly said "Bianca has been very nice to me" So we know she is a 'friend'.

Again, so bleeping what? Screenshot your arse while you are at it.

DAM: So much silence! @aburkhartlaw can you fill me in? What did Alice actually do that led Ioan and Bianca to run to the police and file a report against Alice for violating her Restraining Order. It must have been something pretty bad. Like Betty Broderick bad.

So because she hasn't killed anyone, Alice isn't really that bad. Okaaay.

DAM: Did Wild Man's granddaughter ever actually like, have a job? I know she was an extra in Harrow and Elvis (uncredited both) How do you get to 32 without even working ever

The irony..

DAM: I read about all of this. Teekimoo began life as 'Bianca's cousin' Then she was 'somebody on the Harrow set who KNEW Ioan didn't cheat on Alice'. Then she got thrown off tattle. There is a screenshot somewhere of Bianca trying to get her back on Tattle!

Yep. Welp has it lol

DAM: Anyone know if he has contacted them yet. I am sure he has done. Because any good father would want to make sure his child was ok after witnessing his child have her head slammed in a door, right? Especially with upcoming custody hearings

hmmm. I think it's going to be a long night.
For someone who’s come “late” to the party, she sure knows a lot about everything!!!

DAM rants about Alice being prosecuted for breaking the RO by copying Ioan into a bank email then the next morning is asking what Alice did to breach the RO. Typical Alice… can’t remember what she’s posted previously!!

We see you Alice!
 
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The DM online cover page has now changed the "article" to exclude mAlice in the front line pictures! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
<The earlier headline image "with mom" is behind spoiler>
mAlice showing in original headline:

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and now mAlice's image and name is gone, gone, gone from headline :love:

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ETA: well, maybe shows differently as one view is a 'news article' and other is under 'showbiz'?
 
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While we speculate - and me too 🙋🏻‍♀️ - which door, what door and how it happened, let's not forget everything with Alice is always projection. If some poor innocent door is involved at all with this scenario - I would suspect Bianca is the one who was hurt. 🤷🏻‍♀️ MOO.

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Agree 💯. I don't know how much one can read into SM likes, however this like by B (posted by @welshfitnessgirl on p 13 of the previous thread) only a day or 2 after the "alleged incident" speaks volumes for me.

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The DM online cover page has now changed the "article" to exclude mAlice in the front line pictures! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
<The earlier headline image "with mom" is behind spoiler>
mAlice showing in original headline:

and now mAlice's image is gone, gone, gone from headline :love:
This is because Alice is getting heat and is scrambling to pull back. She has no doubt called her mate Alison 'sobbing and vomiting' which resulted in the 'source' saying Alice should not be blamed as this is basically ALL Ella's decision because Ioan wants her to be friends with Bianca. Alice and Ella can't put this enormous, unpleasant genie back in the bottle. She is going to come out of this looking SOOOOOOOOOOO bad.
She has no compunction shoving her child under the bus does she....it's all Ella's decision, nothing to do with Alice...........
 
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