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Autisteuse

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I'm not surprised that the last straw for Ioan was to find Alice unconscious on the kitchen floor, after having spent the day verbally and physically abusing him.
My last straw with my narc alcoholic father was a few days before my best friend's wedding. He started a fight, because he wasn't the centre of attention, and got progressively drunker and drunker. I snapped and burst into hysterics: he picked up the 'phone and slurred to 999 that he was going to hurt himself, completely obviating my distress. Then he came out with a similar line to that of Alice's, that he was the loneliest person in the world with the worst childhood, and that no-one had ever been more abandoned than he. Later, I found him unconscious on the drawing room sofa wearing women's underpants and nothing else. He'd pissed himself. At that moment, something in me just completely died. It was as if the invisible umbilicus that bound us together as father and daughter had been severed. I looked at him not as a father, but an abusive, emotionally greedy and destructive monster. And I haven't changed my opinion on that since, even though he's become partially sober. The damage was and is too deep.
So I can completely empathise with Ioan on that fateful day. There comes a point in every abused man, woman or child's life when they think: 'no more. Enough. I'm done.' And even if Alice apologised, which amuses and sickens me to even write, it would still be too late. Ioan is done.
 
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bats*itbarbie

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Hi lovely turdles! 😍. I'm failing miserably at catchup here so just want to comment on this one while it's still open lol.
I logged on I think midnight tue or something after checking the abusers insta, and the Aliceabuses one and say shit had gone down. had a 6am start and a heavy few days ahead but I had to read the transcripts that our intrepid and dedicated lawyer types here so very kindly broke speed limits and/or forked out hard earned cash to provide to us all for the greater good. Echoing all the thanks and huge gratitude from other turds to you all. Special mention to @Hiraeth, who still rocks my favorite avatar ( Lagertha, I love you forever even though you are a fictional character cast by one of my best friends 😆)
I read and cried for about 3 hours ( so much for my earlier comment before on saying I don't take this stuff to heart lol. As with most of us here ( bar the odd monkey), I'm willing to be corrected, admit when I'm wrong or my emotions have run wild! I mean, at 47 I'm still learning so much from all of you, younger and older, about the intricacies and workings of narcs and abusers, even after therapy and life experience and all that I've shared here that has happened in my little life.
What gets to me even more about it all is the understanding that so many good folks here are triggered/affected so hard by this situation because of their own lived experience. I'm empathising so much for so many gorgeous souls that I've never met, and am never likely to meet IRL, because I know that everything about this affects you all in myriad ways, on so many levels. I'm kind of feeling a vindication for, not just Yobee, his/their families and loved ones, but also all y'all ( I'm sorry because I know that's a US southern expression but I always think it kind of wraps everyone that's cared about in a collective hug!). So many here have called, speculated on what's up with that abuser and it always made sense, I always agreed that so much dud, but there was always a but of me saying, well, let's just reserve a tiny bit of judgement, maybe it could be a bit of speculation and the inference, though sound, could still be a bit off base because they aren't actually there in person.
Now that's blown outta the water with a ton of depth charges ( last court submissions). I swear on Thor's hammer, if I had you guys as friends, there is nothing I couldn't do in my life . You are that good. I think you are amazing, so very many of you here. Obviously the regular posters who are the backbone of these threads, and who bring so many different generations snd varied opinions on the sane subject. But also those with specialist knowledge, varied up by great data, examples, receipts. The occasional posters, who bring great insights too, sometimes new perspective. The jokers, who bring much needed levity to often serious topics and can deftly lift the mood. Even the FMs, who only serve to counterbalance and show the sheer stupidity of the wilfully ignorant .
its a microcosm of the wider world, and as someone who, through circumstances, personality, and sometimes design, can be quite insular often, is a wonderful, and frankly life affirming place to be.
Enough bloody rambling from me. Abuser Alice, I have a 156 IQ. I'm pretty smart, if you measure things that way, but in this room here, I'm very much not in so many ways, and in IQ too I bet. I'm just fine with that, because I actually respect, honour and love my fellow humans, and like so many before us all have said in various different ways, wisdom and knowledge are different. wisdom comes from acknowledgement of how little you really know, and ( paraphrasing ever so slightly) if you're a massive abusing cunt, you'll never be truly wise, loved or happy. Peace out Turds, I need to chill ( literally, I've just realised the ancient blow heater I used last winter is also a cooling fan and I'm like a pig in shit here the last hour wallwallowing in the cooling breeze. its like 20c or something, but the heat in Ireland is in the 20s this week, we aren't used to this, my house is a sweatbox when it hits 18c outside and I haven't been abroad in ages and have never been such a porker or in peri menopause before so quit the eye rolling hot climate dwellers. I've lived and worked in plenty of hot countries in my life, but I was young, sporty, fit, healthy and you all have many aircon buildings to pop into. Believe me, it makes a difference 🤣🥵🥵🥵).
 
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welp

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At what point is Bianca not responsible for Alice's happiness? I'm sure Bianca would like to know.
I honestly find it crazy

I can understand criticism on Ioan depending on how you believe you should navigate a divorce with children (though this scenario is a tad too crazy in my opinion to perfectly navigate through it), and the kids are ultimately his responsibility. Also you can assume that he did cheat.

But Bianca? I have no idea what she did wrong. First and foremost she has no responsibility towards Alice or the kids. Yet she deactivated her SM for 6 weeks, didnt wrote anything about him for the first 4-5 months after the relationship came out (I think Alice's friends even made fun of her for this), even after this she is barely sharing pictures of him and leaves only some nice remarks about him burried in the comments. Has not said a single bad thing about Alice (except of implying that she made her disease known to the wider public against her will) although she is non-stop saying vile things about her. I would not be able to restrain myself like her, honestly. And expecting her to not do holidays just because your boyfriend's ex-wife is holding the kids hostage is nuts.

Sure, a sister of a friend dared to challenge Alice for a couple of weeks against her campaign, and went sometimesa tiny bit too far, but that has hardly anything to do with her.
 
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Just William

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I just re-read the docs again. 😞🤢🤬🥺 Alice is evil & should be locked up. She has no redeeming qualities, brings nothing good, positive, inspiring or beautiful to the world. Instead she relishes spending her time actively & deliberately causing harm to Ioan & the girls, etc.
I know some of us have done our 'armchair diagnosis' of various PD's yet even that doesn't come close to excusing her vile behaviour.
There are many beautiful & brave souls (including here) who have PD's & work so hard on themselves to not let it impact on loved ones or others.
Alice has free will to make choices. She always has. She can see the pain she causes & enjoys it just as she enjoys the drama & attention it brings. Positive or negative it doesn't much matter, she needs attention like she needs oxygen. She clearly has no conscience so she'll never change.
To change you have to want to, you have to care about the consequences of your actions & she doesn't give a shit about anyone other than herself.

My heart breaks for all that Ioan endured for so many years & is still enduring. His girls must have been the only light in the darkness of his life with Alice. My heart breaks for the girls too. She's throwing their brief & precious childhoods away with her poison & selfishness & is damaging them emotionally & psychologically in ways they're too young to understand & SHE DOESN'T CARE. For that alone she deserves to have the fucking book thrown at her & then have it thrown at her again. That she doesn't want them having therapy speaks fucking volumes. I don't use the word lightly but I hate this evil bitch, she's irredeemable. These stand out & are so upsetting. 😭 Disgusting. 🤬 To scream that to Ioan in front of Elsie is unforgivable. And the girls are learning they too are disposable unless they always dance to mummy's twisted tune. That her FM's even try to defend her makes them abuse apologists & shame on them. I hope Alice in the not too distant future ends up all alone & ignored.


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welp

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Guess I need to watch Harrow...
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It will be very interesting to see his performance in The Reunion given that this was filmed while Alice was everything happened
 
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House of Tea

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eBay update. Alice has been shopping for an appropriate outfit for the court appearance. One that shows Ioan what he is missing, but one that strikes the right tone for the important process she is partaking in.

1st Shot - IN HER HEAD versus 2nd Shot - THE REALITY

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MarmiteMonster

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I am actually in awe of how thick cocksibling is.

Does he really think IG is stupid enough to pay trolls? Wouldn’t exactly be a smart move.

The truth is, these are other people calling Alice out. Some may be thoroughly unpleasant or over-invested. Some may be Twitter trolls but there is no way IG is fanning that flame.

He’s doing everything sensibly on lawyer’s advice. That includes getting his side of the story out.

The paranoia gene is strong in the Evans family.

Of course, it’s not always genetics that makes people act paranoid and cray-cray. Allegedly alcohol, substance abuse and lack of sleep can do the same.
 
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Knitwit

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I don't think we are going to be hearing from Alice for a while. Her whole life is about artifice which is why she shut down Ioan's fans who had got her measure all those years ago and now she has been exposed for the abuser she is. She dismissed Ioan's TRO evidence as 'understandable' because she had been 'ghosted' (ie. a man who would no longer take her abuse). But she can't explain away the evidence of the abuse of her own children which was recorded by them.

Since the dawn of social media, Alice has been presenting the 'perfect Hollywood family' on her Instagram with her much-loved children that she worked so hard to have, she then presented herself as the loving wife who was 'blindsided' after a relationship of 20 years evaporated because her husband was stolen by a bogan from the trailer parks with a kinetic fanny, leaving her as a single mother fighting for her children, her children who have been abandoned and are treated with disdain by their father, who are starving and going to be living on the streets.

As @welp pointed out what she was posting on social media was a very different story from what was actually going on in the Evan's House of Horrors.

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July 16, 2020, she photographed dead-eyed hostage Ioan who was trying to keep the peace by giving in to her demands and capturing the moon. She posted it with a ♥ emoji


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She also posted this 👇 when she had HIT IOAN ON THE HEAD. She can't bear the thought of innocent people being treated badly? Obviously doesn't regard her children as people or innocent if she can call her daughter 'a fucking bitch' or tell her 'babies they can fuck off if they don't stand up for me'.

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She has now been exposed by evidence from her own children. There is no coming back from this socially or professionally. I hate to think what is going on in that house at the moment but do think she is headed for court-ordered rehab and monitored visitation with Ioan getting 100% custody until she sorts herself out or doesn't. Pretty sure a judge would agree that the best way to cause the least disruption to the children is for Ioan to move back into his home while Alice goes to rehab
 
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M33L4

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Have to say I didn’t see this ever taking a Black Lace/Rita Sue and Bob too tangent. But here we are.
Non-Uk’ers please do not Google and judge us 😂😂😂
 
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Citney

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“in the meantime I sent Alice nice, positive texts and emails“.

This is why the deluded bint thought he still “wuvved “ her and that everything would be okay.
As she is incapable of self reflection and has a selective memory (to say the least), she thought it was business as usual.

Ioan was too nice and she misinterpreted it.
I love that Ioan made a complete fool of Alice by sending her nice texts for no other reason than to try and keep her calm so she wouldn’t get angry and take it out on the girls. Alice proudly showed off the nice texts as “proof” she still had him exactly where she wanted him, under her thumb. Score one for Ioan !!!
 
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Ally Pally

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I missed Jo Frost's comments. What did she say?
She replied to two comments about parental alienation and linked @ palienationuk into one of them. Guess that didn't go down well with malice. Being called out by Jo Frost, well you can't get much more valedation that what your doing is just plain wrong.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

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Another former FM: If you’re drinking throughout the day & swearing at your children & calling them names, it’s time to seek help. I can’t in good conscience enable or defend that sort of behaviour, particularly when the person refuses to admit any wrongdoing. Sorry everyone but I’m out

Funny how she was ok when AE was merely abusing IG and his mom and BW. Cunt. Don't pretend you suddenly have a conscience.
 
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Mad Betty

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If you’ve been going after us since December and have seen all of the evidence, read here every single day and only now see the light, yes you’re a massive cunt. Please do continue…
And if you have been attacking Bianca with slurs and demeaning language in the name of Alice and only now choose to step down from your podium of hate I have two things to say to you:

1. We know and we remember.

2. You are indeed a cunt.

Good day. ✌🏼
 
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MarkC1387

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She can fuck off bemoaning the Daily Mail posting about custody when she aims so many of her posts at them to get her lies maximum coverage. Make massively defamatory statement on Instagram, wait for Daily Mail to pick it up, then delete Instagram post.
 
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welp

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you know what is terrifying? If Alice had taken one of her billion chances to settle this peacefully nothing of this would have ever come to light, and she would have been seen as the dumped and then wronged innocent wife like many others (no matter when Ioan's relationship to Bianca would have become public, you will always assume it is going on for longer)
 
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NarcRage

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That ghoul Perez Hilton has written about the custody filing. It's a pretty bad take as expected.

Accusing Ioan of putting words in their children's mouths ??
No Perez....but carry on supporting a child abuser. Because that's what she is.
 
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