Ah, that makes sense. I've been here since thread 1 but lurked until a couple of threads in (I mainly posted on the Meghan and Harry threads) but couldn't remember when her "illness" materialised. I guess up until bb1 was born she never had to share attention with anyone, it's perplexing as to how someone who apparently wanted a baby so much, to the extent of going through IVF, could then feel resent towards her baby. That in itself is a massive warning sign and I wonder why Ioan never acted upon it, but then he could still have been blinded by her manipulation at that point. I've seen it discussed that bb2 (trying to conceive, and then the gestational period) could have been a way to garner the previous attention bb1 brought. I'm sure it would have worked, to a degree, but maybe not quite enough and when bb2 arrived she had no chance of attempting to fight for attention as two babies are damn hard work (my daughter and nephew are a year apart and I looked after him from a few months old while my sister worked full time, it was one of the hardest things I've had to do as I worked too in the evenings when my daughters dad got home, all the while I was sick and didn't know why). I know they had paid help but even at that it wouldn't have been enough for Ian's attention to be back on Alice full time. Thinking back to her old insta posts it's clear now things in that household werent the fun, happy life Alice tried to portray, I know it's common for people to do that, but to now know what really was going on makes my heart break for those girls and Ioan.
(Also I just wanted to say one thing very quickly, I'm so grateful for this thread and everyone on it because it's been clear to me since day one that you all only have the girls, and Ioans best interests at heart, and despite the joking around and use of the "c" word aimed at youknowwho ((which is fully deserved imo)) there has been a line of respect for those involved which has never been crossed. And, in turn, I have the utmost respect for all of you.
I am in no way tone policing ((although Tone does need policed *badjokeignoreme*)) but there's another thread on here which has made me very sad recently involving a celebrities baby passing away, and discussion around how long it is OK to have to wait before "business as usual" resumes, it appears a week is popular opinion. I've been in that celebrities position... the whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth and I'm wondering if there's a way I can "ignore" that whole thread so it doesn't appear? I am not going to look at it, or future threads again, I'd just rather not see it at all. If anyone can help I'd be eternally grateful. Not criticizing anyone on that thread, free speech and all that, but if there's a way for me to not see it... I'd rather not)
Edited for typos, now I can't blame my vision just my stupidity
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telling them all to behave .. but you could tell they were snarling they were fuming … all the posts started doesn’t change how I feel about her .. even before saying they felt bad ya di ya
… we know how to look after our own on here and what is the right thing to do like we did with that snark when she posted that 
video shut it down no questions asked