Exactly this. She invited complete strangers as well as her deranged brother to go after Ioan and Bianca. Bullies getting consequences is food for the soul.I am here for this.
I have been waiting for her to be held accountable for her many MANY breakages of the TRO and those who she incited by proxy.
Wow, hope you're right, MadBetty. Someone will be sure to tell the judge that Malice has already declared judges corrupt on SM. She's never taken the legal actions seriously. She should be scared. The 14th is going to be a very bad day in "Wild West" Hollywood.After reading up on our DVRO (and domestic violence TRO) process here in LA I think Ioan may have had (or is in the process of having) his lawyer Anne file for contempt of court given Alice's clear and intentional breaches of the TRO. She can be charged and fined. Jail time is a possibility, but highly unlikely. Probation is an option though. It helps to open the door to court ordered treatment, anger management classes, etc.
She may know this is happening via Leon. This is speculation only, of course. I personally would press for her to be held accountable. I don't think there's any other way to handle this situation given her repeated attacks on SM and attacks by proxy via her designated Twitter representatives.
It will be interesting to see what it is she fears is happening right now, but I suspect it has to do with her stomping on the TRO.
ETA: The actual paperwork submitted here in Los Angeles for contempt of court. This includes restraining orders. I'm really leaning towards this. Notice item 8 B on page 2.
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If it happens I'll have one thought - fucking finally.Exactly this. She invited complete strangers as well as her deranged brother to go after Ioan and Bianca. Bullies getting consequences is food for the soul.
Thanks for your replyHaving a personality disorder myself, I’ve always feared having a child of my own, but you make it sound like such a wonder and a beneficial experience for all. I try to believe I could fix myself up a little more in the coming years and offer my very best as a parent. I’m nowhere near as destructive as Alice (I am to myself, but we’re working on it in DBT). We’ll see…
Doing the absolute basic parenting doesn’t make her anything of the sort. She’s so transparent.My god she really is trying to project herself as Mother of the Year isn’t she
Ohh god, I hope she doesn’t work as a bricklayer…She’s shitting herself? Good.
I give zero fucks about the abusive monster getting her consequences.
Not like she was doing anything else all afternoon was it anyway? Might as well keep the rat some companyDoing the absolute basic parenting doesn’t make her anything of the sort. She’s so transparent.
she’ll be off her tits by 1pm after her ‘Breakfast of Champions’- 4 bottles of chardonnay, old spaghetti and some bunsMy god she really is trying to project herself as Mother of the Year isn’t she
She's been on Tattle then and seen our discussion here.the posts about expecting a response/doing it for the best of Ioan and the follow-up stating that she hasnt got a response yet were deleted the past hour btw
You sound like wonderful parents. Parenting is the hardest but most rewarding 'job' I've ever done. The saying that parents have to learn to regulate their emotions in response to children who can't yet, in order for them to learn to do so is very true. It's been the steepest part of my growth as a parent; not responding how you instinctively feel in the moment of kids pushing your buttons is not easy. Most parents are a work in progress. I continue to learn, make mistakes, look at how to do better. Empathy is at the heart of it and I have that in buckets. Equally important is seeing your children as individual people. They certainly teach you an awful lot. Their more simplistic view of the world often cuts straight to the heart of the matter without all the complexities adults cast on things.Thanks for your reply
I want to apologise. When I said PDs can be devastating I was thinking about Alice and the sort of person she is, and believing that at least some of what makes her her is due to NPD.
But I’m actually realising how offensive and upsetting my comment is given that there are friends here with personality disorder. It’s not something that has a universal outcome in people’s personalities and behaviours, and when I called it devastating I didn’t really think about the impact that could have if read by someone with that diagnosis who is doing their absolute best to live with it and take an active role in managing it!
That’s the difference: Alice refuses to see she’s the problem, while some people with a PD diagnosis say ‘right, okay, so what can I do about this?’. I have so much respect for that.
You know, so, so many amazing parents battle their own problems or mental health difficulties, and it doesn’t make them bad parents. In some ways it’s the opposite. One thing that made us hesitate when considering trying was that we both have episodic depression, a family history on one side of addiction and personality disorders on the other. My spouse worried we’d be knowingly conceiving a baby likely to experience the same issues as us and our families.
I understood that, but see it a bit differently. We both have tried our absolute hardest during the dark times to keep going and improve how we feel and get treatment, and given that a huge percentage of people will develop a diagnosable MH issue a) it could happen regardless of family history, and b) if it does, who better to parent and guide that child but us? With our lived experience, compassion and bag full of tools?
Parenting absolutely isn’t for everyone (I’m such a huge supporter of people who are childfree!) but if you do decide one day to try for a child and are able to welcome one into your life you seem so introspective and compassionate, I feel you’d know when the right time is and know what to work on to ensure you give it your best shot
So much of toddler raising at least is about healthy communication, empathy, modelling, reflecting and boundaries, so if you work on or possess those you’ll be golden. I spend so much of my day reflecting ‘you feel frustrated honey, because mummy wouldn’t let you snatch her snack off her! Is that right? It’s okay to be frustrated sweetheart, snatching isn’t okay, we can work together to help you figure out how to feel better’ or just simply sitting lovingly with my child with the emotion while it surges and passes. They say the hardest part of being a parent is regulating your own emotions, and I totally get that haha. It’s really good practise at emotional regulation for sure. Taking deep, calming breaths and mentally taking a step back when your toddler has been getting on your last nerve for the past four hours straight instead of snapping. It’s a wild ride!
That's actually zero parenting. I always knew when my son was getting out of school, including the last day. The school puts that on the calendar. So she's either can't be arsed to find out or she's used to being ordered around by a 12-year old.My god she really is trying to project herself as Mother of the Year isn’t she
I’m surprised Ella didn’t add ‘just wait around the corner. Out of sight of my friends!’My god she really is trying to project herself as Mother of the Year isn’t she
private schools that I know of do not usually have "bus stops" -- just saying/askingMy god she really is trying to project herself as Mother of the Year isn’t she
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