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It is privileged for sure but there is a lot of people that can relate to that as well. I myself grew up "poor" and my parents had a lot of fear around spending money which they transfered to me so I also grew up afraid of spending money because I had the idea that you had to save as much as possible just in case something bad happened. Wanted to go on a vacation? Nooo, better save your money "just in case". Wanted to buy a new dress? Nooo, maybe I loose my job tomorrow and I regret it. And like this. Now I am lucky to have a high income but the journey from being afraid to spend to being able to enjoy life can be tough for some people. For me being able to do things that I enjoy and cost money without feeling guilty has been a big achievement.What is the point of this post? It seems like she’s just trying to brag that she’s got lots of money and she’sno longer afraid to spend it
Especially that last comment - “don’t live your life afraid to spend anything” just comes across very privileged. Of course, in todays climate, people are going to be afraid of spending money, some people don’t have a choice to spend money how they want.
idk this post just rubbed me the wrong way
teflonpanda
Chatty Member
Well at least she's being honest lmao. "Sorry that I shared this online" is very honest because that's what she regrets, isn't it - that it led to backlash and made her look bad, thus jeopardizing her online brand/business. What she's not sorry for: That the rabbit has to live in such appaling conditions. It's just "not her responsibility" and that's that. Such a good rolemodel! Such a conscientious vegan! Clearly someone who cares so much for the animals! So much courage! /s
Also there's quite the discrepancy between the (now deleted) clip and what she wrote in the comment-
Holly in the video: "It's Angelo's rabbit!"
Holly in the comment: "That rabbit is not Angelo's responsibility"
Kind of interesting that Angelo has a pet he is not responsible for. Maybe he's too young to be expected to take care of his own rabbit?
Also there's quite the discrepancy between the (now deleted) clip and what she wrote in the comment-
Holly in the video: "It's Angelo's rabbit!"
Holly in the comment: "That rabbit is not Angelo's responsibility"
Kind of interesting that Angelo has a pet he is not responsible for. Maybe he's too young to be expected to take care of his own rabbit?
scoobie
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There are only so many times people can watch what she does in a day of her productive adult life
violastoad
Member
I'm at my limit y'all, I can't handle one more fart mention from the two of them. In all seriousness though, this is just not good content that she's putting out.
justbrowsin22
Member
It's subtle but if you watch her vlogs, you will see that Angelo was the more extreme exercise addict and meeting someone like Holly with her ED history has been the perfect storm - he enables her to be extreme about exercise again without reminding her this could be a dangerous path for her, and she enables him by trying to keep up with him. He often does 2-3 very intense workouts a day and eats very clean (orthorexia-type tendencies), but he doesn't do this for competition but because it's part of a control/restriction cycle for him - that's why he has never competed in a marathon or many races until he met Holly, it's never been about that for him. In her recovery era, Holly has never been this extreme about working out multiple times a day.
If you watch her vlogs, you will see there's times when she can't run or isn't up to a run but he goes anyway without her and there's always a remark about her not being able to come along, and when she had a bad knee and was often in two minds about joining him, he was often egging her on to push her limits. (In her recent travel vlog where she talked about finding running hard and skips an evening run, and instead you see them out eating - Angelo has a sweat on because he still did do a workout lol). You'll also see that whenever they 'eat badly', he is the one pushing for a run that evening or a much longer run the next day. He can't take a day off, even when he's staying at his girlfriends for a night. And she's so attached, she can't let him go for a run and not have that quality time together so she'll follow along on a bike on a bad knee.
Basically, they both have some very deep-seated issues with food and exercise. It's 100% not just Holly, and it's clear to people in her life that he has issues with food (her parents can see this as they often witness the 2-3 workouts a day + cooking very low calorie meals firsthand). I'm pretty sure their feeling is that Holly does eat, and that's a reassurance.
She's a lovely girl and Angelo is a lovely guy but these are two very young people with issues that should not be getting so close so quick, and this will not end well.
Also Angelo is very aware of Holly's past, and she and Angelo are adamant their routines are healthy, their logic is athletes train like this, there are thin athletes (Holly particularly referencing Eilish McColgan as an example - concerning all around) and they both emphasise that they eat. Not much is going to change them except health repurcussions at this point.
If you watch her vlogs, you will see there's times when she can't run or isn't up to a run but he goes anyway without her and there's always a remark about her not being able to come along, and when she had a bad knee and was often in two minds about joining him, he was often egging her on to push her limits. (In her recent travel vlog where she talked about finding running hard and skips an evening run, and instead you see them out eating - Angelo has a sweat on because he still did do a workout lol). You'll also see that whenever they 'eat badly', he is the one pushing for a run that evening or a much longer run the next day. He can't take a day off, even when he's staying at his girlfriends for a night. And she's so attached, she can't let him go for a run and not have that quality time together so she'll follow along on a bike on a bad knee.
Basically, they both have some very deep-seated issues with food and exercise. It's 100% not just Holly, and it's clear to people in her life that he has issues with food (her parents can see this as they often witness the 2-3 workouts a day + cooking very low calorie meals firsthand). I'm pretty sure their feeling is that Holly does eat, and that's a reassurance.
She's a lovely girl and Angelo is a lovely guy but these are two very young people with issues that should not be getting so close so quick, and this will not end well.
Also Angelo is very aware of Holly's past, and she and Angelo are adamant their routines are healthy, their logic is athletes train like this, there are thin athletes (Holly particularly referencing Eilish McColgan as an example - concerning all around) and they both emphasise that they eat. Not much is going to change them except health repurcussions at this point.
teflonpanda
Chatty Member
"Embracing your femininity" what the fuck is that even supposed to mean. That coupled with addressing her audience as "ladies" feels like a completely different type of influencer, like that doesn't feel like Holly at all sh. Also I do not want or need lessons in "being more feminine" or whatever gendered bullshit from Holly of all people, that's not why I subscribed to her channel back in the day. And I doubt that's what most people want or need from her.
Also, "accepting that my food babies are normal" is probably meant to sound all empowering and encouraging but I feel like watching a video of Holly's slim, toned body and then reading about her supposedly struggling with 'food babies' is probably not gonna do a world of good to anyone who is/has been dealing with body-images issues themselves. Which, you know, probably makes up a decent percentage of her followers seeing how she's been posting about her ED recovery ("recovery") a lot.
I don't know that ethical porn website so I can't rightly criticize that. I'll say though, I was v convinced this was sponsored by an underwear company but apparently Holly just decided to go with it? Nothing wrong with showing yourself in underwear on the internet, but I do wonder if that was like, sth the sponsor asked for or sth she wanted to do herself or what was up with that - especially since Holly's 5 Femininity Tips (barf) don't even deal with underwear so it's like?
Also the actual 5 tips just rub me the wrong way - 1) says "body fluctuations are normal" which yes, duh, they are, but that doesn't only apply to women does it? Men's bodies can change and fluctuate too. Men can get bloated too. What does being bloated sometimes have to do with femininity? And also, Holly twisting in front of the mirror to make it look like her belly is sticking out and then captioning that with "it's temporary!" does not, exactly, feel empowered or empowering at all.
2) "Learn about your body to feel educated" - ok this one actually makes sense, I'll give her that. But again, why is that a sign of "femininity"? Does reading up on menstrual cycles mean "embracing femininity"? But the tip itself is okay.
3) "You fit your clothes they don't fit you" - coupled with footage of Holly that just gives me bodychecking vibes, I'm sorry. I guess this is her recycling her ED recovery advice? So does this mean that if I'm okay with my clothing size that makes me more feminine, whereas if I want to gain or lose weight I am somehow lacking in femininity then. Are female ED sufferers less feminine due to their suffering. Am I overthinking this? Yes. Does it make me a bit angry? Also yes.
4) "Your emotions are valid" - ok that one's true, no complaints here. My only question is why this is paired with footage of a bowl of oats when literally noone is talking about food or diet choices in the video. Are oats an emotion now? All oats are valid? When you have a feeling, go eat some oats?
5) "Female self-pleasure is there to be enjoyed" - I guess this is Holly encouraging her audience that masturbating is okay? Which of course, it is!! I just don't fully understand how me rubbing one out is making me more feminine but okay. I guess this one also ties in with the sponsor.
(I'm sorry for the long and probably over-angry rant. It's just that as someone who has/had struggles with societal expectations of performing femininity being thrown at me, and body image stuff and all that, this video just really really rubbed me the wrong way. Like don't even get me started on how this is absolutely not inclusive of different gender identities etc - even for me as a cis woman person, i.e. the presumed target audience here, this was so grating to watch. Idk. It all just felt so weirdly preachy and smug to me)
Also, "accepting that my food babies are normal" is probably meant to sound all empowering and encouraging but I feel like watching a video of Holly's slim, toned body and then reading about her supposedly struggling with 'food babies' is probably not gonna do a world of good to anyone who is/has been dealing with body-images issues themselves. Which, you know, probably makes up a decent percentage of her followers seeing how she's been posting about her ED recovery ("recovery") a lot.
I don't know that ethical porn website so I can't rightly criticize that. I'll say though, I was v convinced this was sponsored by an underwear company but apparently Holly just decided to go with it? Nothing wrong with showing yourself in underwear on the internet, but I do wonder if that was like, sth the sponsor asked for or sth she wanted to do herself or what was up with that - especially since Holly's 5 Femininity Tips (barf) don't even deal with underwear so it's like?
Also the actual 5 tips just rub me the wrong way - 1) says "body fluctuations are normal" which yes, duh, they are, but that doesn't only apply to women does it? Men's bodies can change and fluctuate too. Men can get bloated too. What does being bloated sometimes have to do with femininity? And also, Holly twisting in front of the mirror to make it look like her belly is sticking out and then captioning that with "it's temporary!" does not, exactly, feel empowered or empowering at all.
2) "Learn about your body to feel educated" - ok this one actually makes sense, I'll give her that. But again, why is that a sign of "femininity"? Does reading up on menstrual cycles mean "embracing femininity"? But the tip itself is okay.
3) "You fit your clothes they don't fit you" - coupled with footage of Holly that just gives me bodychecking vibes, I'm sorry. I guess this is her recycling her ED recovery advice? So does this mean that if I'm okay with my clothing size that makes me more feminine, whereas if I want to gain or lose weight I am somehow lacking in femininity then. Are female ED sufferers less feminine due to their suffering. Am I overthinking this? Yes. Does it make me a bit angry? Also yes.
4) "Your emotions are valid" - ok that one's true, no complaints here. My only question is why this is paired with footage of a bowl of oats when literally noone is talking about food or diet choices in the video. Are oats an emotion now? All oats are valid? When you have a feeling, go eat some oats?
5) "Female self-pleasure is there to be enjoyed" - I guess this is Holly encouraging her audience that masturbating is okay? Which of course, it is!! I just don't fully understand how me rubbing one out is making me more feminine but okay. I guess this one also ties in with the sponsor.
(I'm sorry for the long and probably over-angry rant. It's just that as someone who has/had struggles with societal expectations of performing femininity being thrown at me, and body image stuff and all that, this video just really really rubbed me the wrong way. Like don't even get me started on how this is absolutely not inclusive of different gender identities etc - even for me as a cis woman person, i.e. the presumed target audience here, this was so grating to watch. Idk. It all just felt so weirdly preachy and smug to me)
Bellamerrell
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If her trip is supposed to be 'time of your life' during that initial honeymoon period surely she would put most people off ever getting into a relationship - running double days,70 miles per week and indulging in bland boiled vegetables and beans.
hdavidthrow
Active member
I would do almost anything to be in the position she just threw away for a boy, so. That feels bad lol
scoobie
VIP Member
She has such a superiority complex over not being a “tourist”. She got loads of comments on her last video calling her out for pretending she’s moved to Asia, and she’s replied with some weird justification that she’s definitely not on holiday. Her attitude is just horrible. Here she is on what is for most people a once-in-a-lifetime trip (if they’re lucky) and all she’s done so far is promote exercise addiction and alienate all of her viewers by pretending she’s too good to take a vacation now.
scoobie
VIP Member
Okay I take back my thread title submission this is my winner
xoxoxo13
VIP Member
I'm 25 and still no boyfriend, haha. But I'd rather heal (mental illness stole my teenage years), and know myself well before getting involved with someone.im 23 and also never had a boyfriend so her posting this at her age makes me happy because I’ll also probably act the way she’s acting when I get a boyfriend
formerly_sitkx
Chatty Member
completely agree, she seems triggered by the running comments on all her platforms, but trying to mask it as homesickness sadness.
I think she’s having a full-blown relapse currently. Her videos are not doing well in terms of view count, especially compared to Australia vlogs and even the previous Thailand trip. I think she probably feels lost and out of control right now, not sure what to do with her future, etc. hence the insane running regiment and the extremely rigid overplanning of every minute of her day…
theMoth
Chatty Member
next level would be: productive day WITH MY BOYFRIEND
scoobie
VIP Member
I feel a lot of pity for her. She’s blessed with intelligence and wealth but clearly still grappling with disordered eating and exercise like she has for years. She can’t just go on vacation and have a good time. Shocked to hear they’re only drinking 6 litres of water a day between them in that heat and humidity. That would only be enough if they weren’t running so much. She’s still acting like electrolytes are a good replacement for a balanced diet. I just hope no viewers are affected by her reckless behaviour.
teflonpanda
Chatty Member
But I guess it's better than having a slogan about mangos(which I won't repeat) after she saw a sign when she was Oz and thought it would be great to be part of her narna brand.
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Yeah true xD Although I have to say, if Angelo ever does sth dodgy, we could use "You've got to let that mango" as a threat title and I would really enjoy that
Acuriousviewer
VIP Member
every photo and reel now lolAttachments
this is so cringe 🫠
1. Who is filming this?
2. Why did he not take the bag off his front? it looks so awkward
3. Why do they look like they are hoovering each other up?
Reading her last instagram post made me a bit sad for her. She had such an exciting trip ahead of her, she is so lucky to be able to afford that and "work" remotely. Now as an adult with a full time job, I wish I could have done that when I was younger, travel in SEA, meet people, learn, grow and just enjoy life.
I just can believe she canceled everything just because she met a boy, had she been in earlier stages of her planing maybe I could understand it, but she had her flights booked, accomodation sorted out...wtf...
I just can believe she canceled everything just because she met a boy, had she been in earlier stages of her planing maybe I could understand it, but she had her flights booked, accomodation sorted out...wtf...
Supersecretsister
Member
Lol she said in the video the 8th January is when they got together“This is the first time I’ve kept something to myself” and it’s probably only been a couple weeks