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Of course, I am not defending Weinstein if he is guilty, I hope ; he will be in prison for life. These women with whom I am angry wait so long because there is nothing to fear. If there is a crime, all those legal treaties will be invalid. If there is blackmail, there is another crime committed by that woman. If blackmail is for the woman's family, then the family and the woman are taken under protection. I mean, no reason prevents women from going to the police !!! and not a reason to be afraid. they are not ordinary women in countries where they are strong with their reputation. Anyway I think that way. And I have respect for your opinion. HC is not my BFF :) I just love him as a human. I love his thoughts too
I've been a lurker on this thread but this comment got me.

You say you are angry with these women because there is nothing to fear. I actually cannot believe as a woman you have said this. There is everything to fear. Fear of exposing, fear of being so vulnerable, fear of not being believed, fear of power, fear of losing work/family/friends. There is so much that prevents women from going to the police after an assault, be that being believed, going through intrusive tests/questions, facing potentially the accused, not getting a satisfactory result.
You've directed your anger at the women rather than the men.....I cannot believe your comments.
 
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1001aspen

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I am sorry but you are thinking like do feminist. Think equal. For example in me too movement , those stupid women said all that shit after 10 years later !! Why they waited 3, 5 , 10 years ??? If he did harrasment them , they must to go to the police immediatley. Why they waited 10 years ???? Because after 10 years he can not be able to prove he did nothing !! This is disgust me ! And Henry speaks all truth. He try to say ; he have a reputation and he dont want to destroy it for a stupid women. (He dont mean every women, there is so many gold digger ). and he try to say ; same thing could happen any other men and he must to be careful . Thats it . And he have right to think this way . Sorry , I believe you guys dont have enough intaligence to understand him . I am telling to all of you ; God gived to you a brain to use it. Please dont waste that brain and use it !!!!
Whilst I understand English isn’t your first language, that isn’t an excuse for your ignorance when it comes to victims of abuse of all kinds and how they deal with or manage it. Women don’t come forward for years because they are terrified of the perpetrators. Your judgement on how they deal with this is foul. Don’t comment on something like this if you’re coming out with such uneducated and ill-thought out garbage.
 
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vikka

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That would def make sense about the roommate and the rumour mill - thanks, I didn’t know that. I definitely agree with you that if he IS gay or bi he should come out, there are so few actors who are openly out and still get that type of leading role. It can and should be done!
I thought about this a little after I wrote my post and it occurred to me that if he's fully straight, then he must be a very secure person, esp as he was also quite young back then when he moved to LA.

You have these stories of fragile whiny baby masculinities, who break of friendships when a friend comes out or refuse to go to a gay club or socialise with anyone or anything gay/"gay", as if it's a transmittable disease.

And then you have guys who are straight, meet new people, have no other friends (which moving city/country/continent tends to do, like happened to HC when he moved to LA) and have no problem hitting up gay clubs and hanging out with gay guys, because the roommate is gay and "established" (i.e. has a social circle).

I read some thread(s) on datalounge on him, where everyone swears up and down that he's gay, but the only evidence are pics of him at a pool and clubs with this roommate of his and his friends. All very harmless (just a bunch of guys having a drink).
On datalounge they also swear up and down that every guy is gay, so there's that. Can't always take them seriously.

Look at Hugh Jackman, very persistent gay rumours, but then his wife recently wrote an article where she said the rumours started after he starred in a broadway musical playing a gay guy. This was around 2000, about when the internet hit the mainstream. No wonder the rumours are there since what feels like forever and are based on some proper bs.
Leo DiCaprio must be handicapped then... (some actually believed he was, because his acting was so good!)

Anyway, I don't believe the gay stuff because what I wrote earlier, but it's not impossible that he's bi.

I think due to his cocky dog behaviour in the past his fame went a bit to his head.

I also don't buy all the rumours, esp those originating from some blind gossip sites, as some are notoriously unreliable.

He's gay, into bdsm, has herpes, is into teens, girls, boys, threesomes....
Don't know, seems a bit much and who'd know all this stuff?
At the same time, the shyte that tends to be uncovered is mind boggling (again, *ahem* Mr Armie I want to hold your beating heart in my bare hands Hammer still has me shuddering, and the worst I kept hearing about Armie was just that he's a notorious cheat, don't remember reading anything worse, and yet look what he's been up to all these years!!!! And that one account that's been gathering the evidence/tea for literally years).
 
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GoLibrarianPoo

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Missy there's no need to be personal at all, I think I've been respectful to you even though I don't agree with your stance.

You don't know me or how intelligent I am or am not. You don't have to agree with me or share my opinion but you don't get to be aggressive towards me for having one and sharing it on a gossip forum.

If you can't play nice the moderators on this forum will not allow it so again, don't make it personal and attack me or others.

P.s. As it happens I am a feminist, I'm a woman and I support women and want to further womens' causes.
Feminist is not a slur.
I do not think that word means what you think it means. And you don't get to tell me what to think thanks.

Went away and came back because I'm just so... WTF?! :unsure: :cry:

I mean... so women won't get raped if they are righteous, honourable, right with God, able to "see" and distance themselves from the ohh so easy to spot rapists and abusers, be able to defend themselves (Neo style from the matrix when it comes to situations involving multiple attackers I assume) from a larger and stronger attacker and a million other things too.

Right... great, got it, will remember to be and do all of these, gosh thanks so much for clearing up the rules of rape for me...

But if all else fails and the worst happens, it's cool because there exists somewhere in the world a wonderous place where women are believed and assaults are prosecuted and the criminals are always put in jail - coz the justice system is sooo good, and coz of God obvs! - and the victims are treated fairly and compassionately and not victim blamed or side lined or their experiences questioned or minimised at all!

No siree, no victim blaming here at all! Those women who didn't speak up are liars and asking for it or just didn't think it was so bad at the time or wanted to profit from something consensual that is being retrospectively reframed as rape or some such victim blame-y shit :mad::mad:

I just am :eek::eek: at the sheer certainty that comes from such ignorance of the reality of a) the world and b) sexual assault, rape culture, victim blaming and how the justice system fails victims on a grand scale.

Some of the comments are just awful, if you are a good and decent person you don't talk about people who may have had such traumatising things happen to them with such a lack of compassion, and to laugh! :mad::sick:
 
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You cannot understand me and you can only blame me. I think with my brain, you with feelings. These women weren't afraid to work with the man who abused them over and over but they were afraid of going to the police? What stupid way of thinking is this? If all this time they kept silent for their work, for their families, why were they not afraid after 10 years? I absolutely do not feel sorry for these women. If only they had a little honor and pride. If they were really uncomfortable with this harassment, they would go to the police when they were harassed, and they would definitely never work with that man again, even ask for protection. It's all game and intrigue, I don't think these Hollywood celebrities have even the slightest human feelings! They know very well how to deceive people like you.


There are countless women in the world, I'm really sorry. they are really desperate who have to endure the persecution of men because they have no place to go and no bread to eat. God help them. I feel sorry for them. my whole prayer is for that kind of woman. 3, 5 are uncertain what the heck they are doing is not for Hollywood female celebrities who have the power to protect themselves but speak when it comes to their job.
You've contradicted yourself talking about celebs not being human but then declaring your love for HC. I am not deceived by Hollywood, I think it is a dark place.

All I am going to say on this matter is thank your lucky stars you have never been in a position where you have been abused by someone with so much power. You do not know how you would react.
 
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vikka

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I've heard both BDSM and gay rumours on Cavill. Datalounge has some fairly solid tea about the gay rumours. The CDAN stuff I'd take with a heavy pinch of salt. Some of their stuff is accurate but that's usually big stuff that's not very well covered up already (Weinstein etc). The authorship of the website is extremely dodgy.
There are also stories about him drunkenly picking up women in the most obnoxious way (sth along the lines of "wanna sleep with Superman?") and not giving a shyte whether these were married women.
I never particularly bought into the gay rumours, mostly because of the stories of him being a dog and because the gay stuff seems to stem from his friendship with a longtime friend who's gay, but he might be playing for both teams, no clue.

I know that he used to be roommates with a gay guy during his early days in LA, I think the gay rumours might be coming from that. He'd often hang out with that friend and go with him to gay bars, because he was his only/first friend and was taken into the guy's social circle, they were still friends when he made Superman, don't know whether they still are. I think that friend was also married and in a solid relationship and friend and his hubby attended at least one of the Superman premieres.

I don't have a horse in this race, I really don't care about actors' sexual orientation, but I am curious.
What puts me off of actors is finding out shyte like the nasty stuff about Armie Hammer. Yuck.
If Cavill's gay he should come out and call it a day, I doubt it would affect his career.
 
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NightCircus

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He looks like a greek God but I do get a vibe that there is something slimy about him. Not just the blind items, but just a feeling.
 
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EllaBella89

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I was a makeup artist on a film he was in quite a few years ago. He never came across as anything more than polite, kind and well mannered. People can’t handle that an attractive man can be nice and not problematic. Whatever he does in his personal life is his business, but in public and in work, he’s nothing more than professional and a nice guy. His so called fans (or a chunk of them) are absolutely delulu and horrid - wishing death on him, his partner and his unborn child is unhinged and evil.
 
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elliebee27

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I like him... he strikes like as a nice introverted nerd (met him some years ago - he was v. nice and sweet to my kid - came across as a bit shy however) who needs to lay off on the gym and find self-worth in himself versus his muscles...
 
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GoLibrarianPoo

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Hes had these rumours as you call them for several years of using prostitutes abroad and attraction to youngsters as well as abuse. Only brainwashed fans want to believe otherwise. Hes messed up and so is his personal life.



Looks like you support the pervert and his bad behavior on set and pestering staff for sex and abuse.



You do realise this man has many stds its alledged hes given these to several women and also sleeps with men on the down low. If you'd done some digging you'd realise this. Hes not even attractive as there's more hotter men out there with better personalities.

There's a young woman whose known to several people online who said he'd abused her in awful ways but has money to protect himself.
Please can you provide links to articles, gossip site bits, whatever it is that you are basing your judgements on? - as long as it's not just a photo with no other evidence to back it up than your say so I mean.

I don't fancy him, I'm not a mega fan, I'd not be surprised to know he's a terrible person but I would dearly love to be able to tell if you are just someone who dislikes him and has nothing but rumour to base it on (which you are fully entitled to do!) and are presenting your feelings as fact (which is wrong IMO) or if you actually do have some receipts you could share with us.

Like I said in one of my last posts in this thread all I am getting from your posts is a homophobic tone and a dislike for any woman who goes near him but you're not providing any evidence to back up what you say. I'd like to think you are not homophobic and are just coming across in a way you don't mean to but again please give me something to read?

No one here is condoning abuse but we aren't about to damn someone on no evidence but your say so, we're all randoms on the internet, you could be anyone doing it for any reason.
 
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RealWelshWitch

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Hes had these rumours as you call them for several years of using prostitutes abroad and attraction to youngsters as well as abuse. Only brainwashed fans want to believe otherwise. Hes messed up and so is his personal life.



Looks like you support the pervert and his bad behavior on set and pestering staff for sex and abuse.



You do realise this man has many stds its alledged hes given these to several women and also sleeps with men on the down low. If you'd done some digging you'd realise this. Hes not even attractive as there's more hotter men out there with better personalities.

There's a young woman whose known to several people online who said he'd abused her in awful ways but has money to protect himself.
I have to ask this because I'm stumped how you can hate him so much and accuse him of such awful things with no proof to back it up. Do you know him personally?
 
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elliebee27

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He's VERY guarded in interviews, but personally I don't think he's a psychopath or whatever. He honestly just seems...neurodivergent, lmao. I totally wouldn't be surprised if he has a bit of the 'tism, as someone who has both ADHD and autism. We can sometimes look like we have a bit of a "death stare" but are just zoning out due to overstimulation. Most of the time, he looks like he just doesn't want to be at these events or talk shows and would prefer to be at home (he's also a Taurus, hah). I think people want to believe there is something sordid going on with him because he looks almost too perfect, it's a bit unsettling, almost "uncanny valley" like.

I've said this before on this thread: he's definitely a typical good-looking dude, doesn't always realise his privilege, likely isn't the most interesting person to talk to (few guys are, truly), and never had to work hard to get women. But I sincerely doubt he is or does all the perverted things like sleep with underage girls that people accuse him of. His me too comments were so benign too, even as a feminist I can't bring myself to get upset about what he said.
I've told this story of meeting him several years ago - but he came across as simply shy and introverted. There was nothing more than that - just a good looking introvert. It doesn't play well in interviews or on camera. He was very sweet and had no icky vibes, which I would notice - I was with my young child at the time - but ymmv.

If he was a creep, or awful in some ways, we would know about it by now. Instead, co-stars creep over him and make him uncomfortable - like Amy Adams - or gush about how nice he is.
 
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