Well say what you like about Fergie but I quite like(ish) her these days.Christ, Fergie is the bloody template for Harry's wife.
Author - (likely ghost) written a few kids books.
Businesswoman - known for permanently being in debt
Advocate - well, she can put you in touch with the most radioactive member of the RF, for a fee. (See businesswoman).
Philanthropist - charity of choice : herself.
5 inch? More like 7 inch. Her heels were out of control which was one of the reasons she would clutch at H and H would stare at her feet when they walked together anywhere unless it was carpeted. Im astonished she didn't face plant during her "walk" before meeting Chuck at her wedding.
Yes, I suppose I'm mostly dunking on 80s, 90s and 00s Fergie. 10s Fergie, removed from any position of anybody really caring about her or spending taxpayer money on her, and just embracing the fact that she's a bit of a berk is OK(ish).Well say what you like about Fergie but I quite like(ish) her these days.
She took heed of the utter mess she made of her life and has moved on, earning for herself without milking the money udders of Brenda like smeggy is doing. I love that she does the children stuff dressed like a total nutter and just goes for it. It's oddly endearing.
My hubby has some old-school journalist friends - the saying at the DM, News of the Screws (remember?), etc. was ‘don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story’. Think that may have been Kelvin MacKenzie at The Sun? Happily, he’s no friend of H and M, btw.Very many years ago (there were manual typewriters and smoking in the office, that how long ago) I went with a friend from school for work experience at the local paper.
We were let lose to write up some stories and the advice from the sub editor was … if You want a quote for a bit of colour to to put another side of an arguement but you’ve got nothing, use a generic unattributable source like ‘onlooker’ or ‘bystander’ and no quotations marks and put what you like
According to him, the only quotes worth anything at all come with an actual name attached and are in quotation marks. Anything else and it’s believe at your own risk. Also, always be wary of using the same people for quotes all the time. This generally means they have an axe to grind and will not be unbiased.
Thats a few degrees of separation, though?
Tbh, they'll all come from loaded families, so won't need the cash. I bet it must be absolutely fascinating to be so close to the RF, but without a lot of the stress of actually being in the RF.Queen's ladies-in-waiting can spend their lives working for her - for free
The responsibilities of the Queen's five ladies-in-waiting differ from managing the monarch's wardrobe to helping her majesty bathe but they all have one thing in commonwww.mirror.co.uk
Sorry for derailing, but it is royal business. So the Queen has fiveservantsladies in waiting who do not get paid, and one of them is 101 years old.
Yes, in many ways. I’m from the States originally, left in ‘84 for many reasons - one big one was I was sick and tired of living in a country that went around sticking it’s nose in other people’s business (and lecturing) instead of clearing up their own messes first.America need to wake-up - China rules the world.
A bit of deflection from their own internal problems. Still really really really annoying though.
Actually, we don't feel that way. In fact, most of us feel we could learn something - well, a lot of things, actually - from the UK and if every other country should give up their culture and conform to our (sub) standards then modern civilization will fall. Please know that US publications do not represent the average American's point of view and that most of our publications originate from the far let Hollywood powerbase - regardless of the publication's mailing address. The so-called news outlets are entertainment based; not news based. Same with TV broadcasting. Very embarrassing. It might surprise you how intertwined the entertainment and news industries are; even owned by the same company. Please don't interpret everything you read from the US outlets as de facto truth. And as far as the "woke" movement, insert a vomit emoji.I don't get why people in the US think they even have a say in what goes on in the UK. Didn't this whole woke culture start in the US and its made its way over here in the last few years? A lot of US publications are saying things like the monarchy is outdated (and this has been empowered by Harry and his wife's stupid claims). Do they realise that it's absolutely none of their business? Is this trying to say that "America rules the whole world" and so every other country should give up their culture and conform to their standards?
and yet the harkles want MORE money for NOT working and living abroad... service is universal.Queen's ladies-in-waiting can spend their lives working for her - for free
The responsibilities of the Queen's five ladies-in-waiting differ from managing the monarch's wardrobe to helping her majesty bathe but they all have one thing in commonwww.mirror.co.uk
Sorry for derailing, but it is royal business. So the Queen has fiveservantsladies in waiting who do not get paid, and one of them is 101 years old.
Also that interview was about climate change and environmental protection (never knew the royals were so into it especially when it wasn't trendy) and Prince Philip's French was good - it wasn't basic and he was using complex tenses.Sorry, bit off topic but this popped up on YouTube for me. Prince Philip doing an entire interview in French. Sugars like to pretend HFW is the only person who speak more than one language. I’d love it if someone interviews her in Spanish, I’ll even watch!
Yep! Somebody’s probably already said it but Pasternak is close friends with the ex-Tatler journalist Vanessa Mulroney. Vanessa is the sister-in-law of Jessica Mulroney, Smeg’s BFFF. If Smeg can’t be Queen then nobody can. She’ll be taking out a contract on the ravens at the Tower of London next.Wasn't Anna Pasternak the one who wrote that unpleasant article about Catherine and the Middletons, snobbish and scathing, and Vanity Fair had to run a correction after a complaint from BP?
Well said DoubleOld we all like Americans they are friendly and forthright but just hate their foreign policies and patronising others. It is a wonderful Country with spectacular scenery and nice people but I just hate the gun culture and it horrifies people here. You sound lovely thoughActually, we don't feel that way. In fact, most of us feel we could learn something - well, a lot of things, actually - from the UK and if every other country should give up their culture and conform to our (sub) standards then modern civilization will fall. Please know that US publications do not represent the average American's point of view and that most of our publications originate from the far let Hollywood powerbase - regardless of the publication's mailing address. The so-called news outlets are entertainment based; not news based. Same with TV broadcasting. Very embarrassing. It might surprise you how intertwined the entertainment and news industries are; even owned by the same company. Please don't interpret everything you read from the US outlets as de facto truth. And as far as the "woke" movement, insert a vomit emoji.
If it's true as Skippy says that H&M have had backers from day one, presumably this means that these backers have money and savvy. What makes me think this isn't true is that if it was a big plan the backers would have top notch PR and the Harkles would be under contract to follow their instructions. Instead it's been a PR disaster from the start with these two loose canons, makes no sense to me.There's skippyv20 on Tumblr who's been saying forever that H's W has had 'backers' from the beginning. Look for the 'London scoop collection' that was being put out in 2018. I'm pasting some of it here, hopefully with spoiler as it's very long. I can't work out where this info was coming from but it's intriguing.
London Scoop Collection 1March 27, @iamstillskippy
Hello againI have a bit more information. The bits about H come from the gentleman with the phone I spoke of last mssg. He, I think is the highest ranking of the group. What he has to say comes through my friend who, as I told you has more personal access to him. The other information comes from a wife and a fiancee of two others. That was shared directly with me as I actually undertook some studies with the sister of the wife. I didn’t know her beyond classes, but enough that I was able to start conversation without it seeming intrusive. (Hope I haven’t confused you yet). The sister actually has a position at BP. She also goes temporarily to another royal location of business which I won’t name to protect the source. Her position does not put her in regular direct contact with any of the family, but it is clear that staff gossip between locations. The biggest thing upsetting staff is the cost cutting and personnel changes. As for KP, William’s personal secretary has resigned after ten years. A lot of staff have and are planning to leave. This sister said that senior staff have been quite stern about not discussing personnel changes. They’re being told that any changes that might affect them would be announced at an appropriate time, so it hasn’t been denied. He was more stern about not discussing new duties that PA is preparing for.
Information from the fiancee has to do with how MM is being judged/treated by their social set. They would not refuse to include her nor turn down invitations from her if it included someone from the family. There is no way they’d risk losing association with them. But she is not being invited to participate in any private functions. She has not been personally befriended by them. No one has even seen her about London so that’s not been too troublesome. There as yet has been nothing said about wedding invitations being received, but there is down the nose criticism about the announced wedding plans. None of the expected high end vendors for wedding and personal preparation have been engaged. It’s as though they are hiring off the radar.
Also, not sure if I should include this as it comes from one of the men who heard it from another woman he knows…Zara was asked if she had met MM and her response was to roll her eyes. Zara has her own big event coming up and is above caring about publicity, but she makes remarks like “good god” when something is said about M&H being in the press. I’m told.
I’m going to split my mssg in two because of the length. So part 2 is coming up.
I hope you know how much we appreciate what you bring us! Thank you so much!
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March 27, @iamstillskippy
Now, from the top gent. Apparantly this Marcus, despite whatever job title he has, acts much like one of those concierges who can get anything/make anything happen for customers. Big names don’t dismiss him for two reasons: what he can do for them, and what he knows about them. They do not, however see him as a friend or equal. Marcus knows this. This is where MM comes in. She stopped really caring about her acting career several years ago. Her true goal is being on top of the power/fame pyramid. She kept acting because of the connections etc it offered, but her energies went much more into who she could associate with. And it wasn’t other actors. I mentioned before how this gentleman says that H continues with M because it is the socially virtuous thing to do, to be seen as color blind. What started as a hook up became more, she acted well enough for that. By the time things soured she and Marcus had enough evidence of a relationship (between M&H) to make it real to the public. Harry dithered. M and Marcus began stealth charitable activities. Making visits to places like Grenfell, other low income and ethnic localities, under the pretense of royal backing. It reached the point whereby if Harry backed out of the marriage they would be able to unleash a racial tidal wave of anger at the family. They even have people, some being heads of organizations willing to speak (lie) on M’s behalf, to say that Harry dumped her on orders from the Queen. They also benefit from this whichever way it goes. Please understand that this is something the royal family would never be able to overcome, the hatred of the majority of their subjects believing them to be racist, believing them to have destroyed poor, innocent Meghan who just had the bad luck of loving a white prince.
So Marcus gets revenge for years of sucking up to and standing along side but never being part of the privileged people. If it didn’t work out though, he’s really none the worse for it. For Meghan it is an all or nothing move, but one she feels certain she will win. It doesn’t matter if people speak out about who she really is, the herd mentality of racism will drown it all out. The horror of it all being that Harry is not racist.
Now, all of that said, the one important thing my friend did not think to ask this gentleman is what battle plans the family might have. I hope to be able to tell you something about that within the next few days, but I wanted to get this out now. I apologize for the length, but I’ve had several days of conversation and wanted to be sure I got it all down.
Please don’t feel the need to apologize….I love your writing style, such a pleasant read, and the information fascinating! Thank you!
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March 28, @iamstillskippy
Just a quick note before I head out for the morning. In response to a few remarks made about my submissions, I should explain some of the words I used. I tried to summarize a lot of second hand conversation in as clear a way as possible and it would seem I failed. When I said M wanted power/fame, I didn’t mean power in terms of “I will rule the world”. It’s more the power that anyone with more wealth or status or fame has over someone with less. Given where she started, (lower class commoner) marrying into the royal family gives her quite a bit of that.
By threatening to accuse the Queen of racism, it appears I didn’t convey that correctly at all. The word as told to me was ‘the Crown’. I said ‘the Queen’ but I think the thrust was the monarchy in general. I’ve been trying to not interject my personal opinions here, but have to say that I don’t think Meghan has any understanding of royal or aristocratic dynamics at all. She doesn’t understand that accusing Charles or William or Harry IS actually accusing the Queen, in the end. But that is how it was presented to me, that she/they would damage the monarchy with accusations of racism. Not directly, but with 'other people’ leaking stories. To give an additional personal opinion, I do believe that she has visited various groups in secret based on the gentleman saying he’d given that information to an individual who could inform the 'necessary parties’, but that those parties already knew.
I hope these clarifications help. I think that it’s difficult sometimes to see that there are differences in cultural perceptions between Americans and us.
Yes there are things that Americans don’t get…having not been exposed to the Monarchy all their lives. I do understand what you are saying. Thanks for coming back to clarify. For me right now, I dont see a big conspiracy, with big names….I see two commoners who were very well connected….found an in and went for it. Thank you!
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March 28, @iamstillskippy
Wow. To chiefbarbariantriumph who felt it necessary to shout in super sized font at me, I am quite well aware of the royal family’s interactions/relationships with people of color. Whew, off my chest lol. Now, is it is normal procedure to shoot the messenger when reading unwelcome news? Or am I taking this too personally. I’m just a working student with access to people who have much higher connections than I likely ever shall. I try to present what I’m hearing in a way with which the readers might put together the truth. It will always be second hand to me, but I believe valid. When I see I’ve not been clear I will always attempt to correct that. If I ever find that I’ve been led down the garden path I’ll wring my own virtual neck!
My questions though are, what should I do if I feel I’ve gotten valid information that is not exactly what people want to hear? If you feel I should hold that back I will. If you’d rather I state my personal opinion I’d be happy to do so! Separately. I just felt that it would interfere with the objective conclusion. And, why am I being cautioned about what happened to winkie? What DID happen to winkie and how do I prevent it lol? Honestly, I see how much effort you all put into this issue and admire the loyalty, good sleuthing and debate. Seeing people argue the info I’ve given helps me to know a better direction to getting further info. (It is hard though to not be influenced by my own growing bias). Thank you Skippy!
Whoa! That was not “chiefbarbariantriumph” who did that! I posted that, it was a comment, I posted it! So no blame to anon! The reference to Winkie was to make all aware that we do get imposters, to stir things up…and to watch out for Winkie and London Scoop imposters! No one said or implied that’s what YOU were. I told you we appreciate the info you provide. That said, the idea that race card is part of the plan….anons are saying…good luck Idiot, it will never work….here is why…..
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March 29, @iamstillskippy
Hope I am not jumping the gun on this info, just received it. Part of the reason for the slow and strange wedding plans might be that the top choice vendors have been *graciously requested* to be otherwise engaged on 19 May.
Fair warning: I have not yet asked around to verify this. It just seems like deliberate stumbling blocks. It’s either that or the wedding planner has very poor taste.
Thank you…we will take itYou are the best!
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March 29, @iamstillskippy
I am told that an independant web site developer has been engaged by KP and to expect to see a major launch of ??? within 3 months. Not being told what it is for, only that it will be a new approach to a previous undertaking and that regular staff have been shut out of it. Specific info about MM is limited to confirmation of her presence at KP offices, refusal to say if she is actually domiciled there. Question about the family’s cooperation with MM got me the answer of “one or the other”. I’m so sorry, I have no idea what that means. I don’t know whether it is the gentleman we speak with or his contact who is being so tight lipped. I have my suspicions but I’d be guessing.
I have heard of the web designer but it’s for Baby 3 …..there may be strange things going on at KP right now…but letting her start up the Atig isn’t one of them….why the secrecy though? Thanks so much London Scoop!
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April 4 , @iamstillskippy
Hello again. I tried last week to look into the availability of wedding vendors for 19 May without success. After phoning 3 I realized they weren’t going to speak to me unless I was a planner. (One said no straight away, the other 2 said they’d have to get back to me about the date, took my name but didn’t ask for a number to call back). A friend pointed out that they weren’t interested in someone making their own arrangements. The word from a more connected source (about those announced) said “if you were marrying a prince would you want flowers that could be ordered from Selfridges by just anyone? And the cake would be more appealing if it came from the market stall they started out in”. Rather harsh, but the general opinion from what I gather. Now, the only conversation I’ve had for over a week with the main gent started out with a joke. I asked him if he’d received his invite to the big wedding. He laughed and asked if I was familiar with the poem Jabberwocky. I am, and for those who aren’t it’s an old poem made up of basically nonsense words. (Lewis Carroll) I know I said I wasn’t going to slant my info with personal opinion, but I think he was saying that the invitations are made up things. I just don’t know if that means their existence is made up, or the words on them don’t mean anything. I joked back at him, saying “you aren’t going to let slip any state secrets, are you?“ His answer to that was that you wouldn’t want spoilers to a hit show, would you? Not much, I know. Later on I overheard one say “A lot of effort for a bit part”, and before they left one made a toast “to fallen comrades”, which they all drank to. Any other conversation I could hear wasn’t interesting at all. Sorry for how little I have to share and that it’s not very specific. I hear much more these days from people who don’t actually know anything more than they read.
Thank you so much London Scoop! Any info is great, and appreciated!
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But she also called the interview they did ‘an exercise in disrespect’.Yep! Somebody’s probably already said it but Pasternak is close friends with the ex-Tatler journalist Vanessa Mulroney. Vanessa is the sister-in-law of Jessica Mulroney, Smeg’s BFFF. If Smeg can’t be Queen then nobody can. She’ll be taking out a contract on the ravens at the Tower of London next.
This Quora post has a good summary.Long time lurker but curiosity has gotten the better of me...I am seriously late to the party but I keep reading tiny bits about the tea throwing incident but can’t seem to find the context of it anywhere...anyone want to fill me in? I’m very intrigued
I paraphrase but there was a story that he was told by the Canadian ambassador or that he spoke good French for an Englishman and told him ‘I’m not English and I’ve been speaking French since before you were born’Sorry, bit off topic but this popped up on YouTube for me. Prince Philip doing an entire interview in French. Sugars like to pretend HFW is the only person who speak more than one language. I’d love it if someone interviews her in Spanish, I’ll even watch!
Yes, it's all a mystery - and yet a lot of the predictions in the London Scoop 'leaks' or rumours have come to pass. I'm not on board with it all, but I think it's very interesting to read.If it's true as Skippy says that H&M have had backers from day one, presumably this means that these backers have money and savvy. What makes me think this isn't true is that if it was a big plan the backers would have top notch PR and the Harkles would be under contract to follow their instructions. Instead it's been a PR disaster from the start with these two loose canons, makes no sense to me.
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