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Mothballs

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To be honest you become numb to it, when the final line gets crossed and all of a sudden your mind just says no more and switches off from it
I agree. My husband’s family accused him of terrible things that weren’t true causing him so much stress that he decided to cut them out of his life. Five years later life is good and he doesn’t give them a second thought.
My motto in life is Not everything has to be fixed.
 
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TheSheep

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I really don’t understand all the rush to get to London, it’s not as if KC is on his deathbed..?
And all that media circus with police escort and shit like that 😆
And then the King with all his exquisite and vast properties throughout the UK and the twat ends up staying in a hotel 😆😆😆

What a fecking circus! 🤡
 
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It's insane - Maureen Callaghan has completely changed her tune and is writing basically a love letter to poor Harry... 🤮

Have we entered an alternate universe? Or the Twilight Zone??????
I wonder how much all these "journalists" are being paid to push these puff pieces about H&M.

It really is nauseating. WTF is going on?
 
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Mollywobbles

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It’s quite sad really.
A few years ago it would have been a family dinner, a kick around with his niece and nephews and cousins kids, then a few drinks somewhere with Will, Mike and a few mates.
Now, a lonely hotel room.

Serves him right!
 
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Debra_Whinger

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I don't know - it seems to be a no-win situation to me. The public's attitude in contradictory.

Have a big RF undertaking lots of duties and engagements -the the public are up in arms complaining about paying for all of these people to carry out events.

Have a smaller RF - then the public are up in arms complaining about why nobody is doing all of the Royal work.

Perhaps we need to define the scope of what the RF should do? Also possibly differentiate between the "figurehead" royal roles - for example patronages of organizations and charities that could be done be non fulltime working royals and the key projects that require longterm inputs.

William should talk to his Scandi counterparts about how they have coped with their younger siblings removed from ongoing royal roles - it's happened in Denmark and Sweden in the last 5 years
I think one of the biggest problems is the invisible work they do that is not immediately obvious to people. It's the same with any job that doesn't only involve straight up physical labour, there will always be people complaining that unless they see a shovel moving, that person is not really working at all.

Most negative comments under any news story about the royals are about them doing nothing but cutting ribbons and eating free lunches wearing designer clothes. Even if we're not talking about royals per se, desk jobs and mental labour are not valued by some people. They also do not see how tiring in reality it is to attend events in formal wear, having to remember everyone's names, background, engage in conversation, look interested no matter what you are presented with, working to advance the issue you are promoting in that event, going from place A to B, then to C and D. It doesn't matter whether your arse is parked inside a luxury car or you're flying somewhere in business class, it's still not fun, it's work. You're tired, your legs and back ache, it's exhausting even if it's not the same as physical labour. And then that's only one part of it. People think royals have staff to do everything for them but if you are not a Harry but more like an Anne, you do the hours yourself and don't just rely on being quickly briefed while hurrying to some event. I'd love to see any of the complainers for example read all the boring documents Charles has to read at 2 am to be informed of all that goes on in the country and aware of the current legislation.

So, what they would have to do is make people see what it is that they actually do and how it makes a difference in people's lives. You can say royals have no place in modern society but then again, no tourist is going to visit a republic just to see a presidential palace and perhaps the parliament. Royals do have a place in supporting charities, working as a uniting figureheads that offer stability over long term without political leanings. I've also noticed the quality standards for many things are higher in monarchies compared to republics for historical reasons. Craftspeople for example had to strive to acquire royal warrant of appointment and you did not get there with shoddy work. This quality issue and the continuing traditions can be seen very clearly for example when talking about restoration of historical buildings; years ago I was living in a republic and they were renovating an old building. It didn't work out because "we just don't have the knowhow in this country for repairing this kind of thing" and a specialist had to be flown in from a country that still has a royal court. This all coming from someone who has observed the differences for decades having lived in both kinds of countries, monarchies and republics.

As long as people see royals as only useless handshakers cutting ribbons, they will want to get rid of them. I think Prince Philip had the right idea. I don't think I ever knew how much he influenced things until he passed away and I learned a lot more about the Duke of Edinburgh's Award and his work with environmental issues. Sorry for the long post, hope this makes sense at all!
 
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LadyMuck

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I really hope it's not all part of some big plan to integrate and rehabilitate the traitor back in the fold. A slow but steady build of all 'positive' news stories about him. A bit like what they did to build Camilla's reputation.

I think all the UK press and media have had orders to only print positive stories, and that explains the very sudden change of tack by those who previously called him out on his atrocious behaviour. And to deflect from the African Parks scandal. BP helping him?

Or maybe I'm over thinking this
 
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MeInMidAmerica

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Memo to Prince Harry: Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Such is the obvious message from Buckingham Palace — and what’s to come under William’s reign.

Only 24 hours after making a transatlantic dash to see King Charles, just diagnosed with cancer, Harry is flying back to California.

That’s 10,000 miles and 21 hours in the air for minutes with his father.

Imagine Harry’s overwhelming emotions. The exhaustion from jet lag – flying commercial.

Tyler Perry’s private jet, it seems, was not available for loan this time.

Nor was there room at the Palace, or Clarence House, or any castle or royal cottage.

Harry was reportedly forced to put himself up at a hotel. Room service for one!


Imagine Harry’s overwhelming emotions. The exhaustion from jet lag - flying commercial. Tyler Perry’s private jet, it seems, was not available for loan this time. Nor was there room at the Palace. Harry was reportedly forced to put himself up at a hotel. (Pictured: Harry at Heathrow, heading
Imagine how lonely he must have felt: His father dashing off after their fleeting reunion — the first time Harry has spoken in person with Charles since the funeral of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth in September 2022 — contentedly cocooned with Camilla.

His estranged brother, his only sibling, tending to his recovering wife and their three children, no invitation extended — presumably not a phone call or even a text message.

All of Harry’s old friends, either cut off or fallen away. No one to see, to commiserate with, to meet at the pub for a pint and a cry.

Of course, Harry had no other option but to turn around and go home.

It seems our desolate duke is learning the hardest of lessons, one most of us learn as toddlers: Actions have consequences.

Having sold out his family’s secrets, having slandered them for years through Oprah Winfrey and Netflix and a self-pitying memoir, having made Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth’s final years a misery — well, it seems the royals have reached the sad conclusion, the only conclusion, that Harry cannot be trusted.

Adding to his humiliation, a source close to Prince William made it clear that under no circumstances would he be seeing or speaking to his brother.

‘No plans’ to see Harry, the source said.

And why would William risk a conversation?

The one piece of information that William and Kate want to keep private — the exact status of her health and recovery — is the very thing the Sussexes, if history is any guide, might leak.

Recall Meghan cruelly reminding the world, during the Oprah sit-down, of the ‘Waity Katie’ nickname.

Or Harry writing of Kate’s refusal to share her lip gloss with Meghan and reprinting a tense text exchange between the women over bridesmaids’ dresses. That Kate made Meghan cry!

And, most gravely, the gruesome twosome seemingly doing nothing to stop their groupie Omid Scobie’s revelation that the so-called ‘royal racists’ were Charles and Kate — as printed in a foreign edition of Scobie’s book ‘Endgame’, released late last November.

Truly: Who in the royal fold would trust these two?

Adding to his humiliation, a source close to Prince William made it clear that under no circumstances would he be seeing or speaking to his brother. And why would William risk a conversation? The one piece of information that William and Kate want to keep private
Adding to his humiliation, a source close to Prince William made it clear that under no circumstances would he be seeing or speaking to his brother. And why would William risk a conversation? The one piece of information that William and Kate want to keep private - the exact status of her health - is the very thing the Sussexes, if history is any guide, might leak.

Especially with their Netflix deal on the bubble! And Harry owes his publisher at least one more book. Meghan is rumored to be planning her own memoir.

If there was ever a time for Harry to show discretion, this was it.

Immediately upon landing at Heathrow on Tuesday, he rushed to Clarence House, arriving at 2.45 pm.

He met with his father for only 45 minutes.

Harry’s motorcade then departed at 3:32 pm, with Charles and Camilla departing for Sandringham at 3:38 pm — just six minutes later.

Brutal. Not even a delay for the sake of optics.

Perhaps Charles was tired from his treatments. But the bags were clearly packed. The schedule was to remain intact.

This visit, it seems, was going to be tolerated rather than welcomed.

Indeed, sources told Charles's biographer Robert Jobson that while the King was perhaps moved by his 'darling boy' flying over, Harry actually caused 'some disquiet by "taking it upon himself" to fly over unbidden'.

Charles may in fact wish for a reconciliation. Getting diagnosed with cancer, no matter how early it’s caught or how treatable it is, tends to realign one’s priorities and perspectives.

To that point, it seems we can be reassured that Charles’s prognosis is, as reported, excellent.

Otherwise, we’d likely see more urgency here, not just between Charles and Harry, but between Harry and William, too.

And for a brief moment on Monday, it did seem as if the door had been opened ever so slightly — that a repentant Harry, shaken by this sad news, would have a newfound clarity.

That perhaps William, despite the myriad insults to Kate — despite implying in ‘Spare’ that the future king had married not for love but for duty — would want some kind of relationship with his brother.

It seems, on that fraternal front at least, that all is lost.


William has made it clear that there is no hope of reconciliation. Their father’s diagnosis will not move the needle.

Once William takes the throne, this will be Harry’s future: Total and complete severance from the royal family.

William must be hurting too, not just for his sick father but from the loss of his only sibling, the only other person who knows their specific, unique upbringing.

Does Harry get it now? The sheer emotional carnage he’s left behind?

Charles was magnanimous to hold a meeting with his son and allow the media to report on it.

Harry, after all, wrote of his death fantasy against Charles in ‘Spare’, of remotely piloting a fighter jet and targeting his father after a visit some years back — a visit that left Harry, as he wrote, overjoyed.

‘I loved seeing Pa, loved feeling his pride, and felt buoyed by his praise.’

Yet six lines later: ‘The Typhoon tracked Pa, did a low pass straight over him, almost shattering the windows of his Audi’, Harry wrote.

‘But ultimately spared him. On my orders’.

How could Harry possibly come back from that? From all of it?

‘It never needed to be this way’, Harry told Tom Bradby in a televised interview last year. ‘I would like to get my father back. I would like to have my brother back’.

It certainly didn’t have to be this way. But Harry has made it so.
 
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Scotch Mist

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That's a dreadful line up. William would have to do something about appointing Counsellors of State. Edward should be around for a reasonable amount of time, but by the time William takes over, Anne could be knocking on.
This goes to prove that Charles was wrong to talk about slimming down the monarchy. The elderly Dukes will soon be gone. Princess Anne may decide to retire at some point (and why shouldn't she?). The same with Edward and Sophie.

William will have little support left as he gets older and can only hope that his children step up, although Charlotte and Louis might opt for having careers outside of the royal family.

The public have never really warmed to Bea and Eugenie. Anne's children have also chosen a life away from being royal. That leaves Edward's children but I suspect that they will probably want careers outside of being working Royals.

William grew up thinking that Harry would be there to support him as Anne supports Charles but that won't happen now. The monarchy is going to be slimmed down naturally without Charles having to do anything.

Of course a lot of people would say that this is a good thing but the charity work will have to be cut back because there won't be enough people to do it.
 
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ElChanguito

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Just want to say thank you all for making this thread a friendly and open minded safe space. The rest of the site is rather hostile and I am frequently too scared to post elsewhere.

Also I hope Buck Pal have some of this to hand!
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vretch

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I especially love the fact that Camilla was there also. Camilla would have stared that sucker down & dared him to say something inappropriate, like asking about the Will or asking for money, and kicked his butt out. This meeting would not have been more than, how are you & how is the weather. I don’t care what bs Hasbeen will say about it, it will be bs. Not nearly enough time to get into detail, my boy.
 
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Angelesque

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Just seen William has arrived at the Black and White Ball… “sorry Harry, can’t see you old chap, I’ll be hanging out with actual Hollywood megastar Tom Cruise. ….er, no, I can’t “swing you a ticket”, sorry.”

Megz will be LIVID
 
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ChaoticArtist

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Is it a "family" rift when one member (and his wife) is picking fights and publicly insulting and lying about everyone else? 🤔 There should be a better term for it.
 
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Shushex

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They're missing another golden opportunity to prove where the leaks are coming from. KCIII should give him a bit of information that's "speshul" and watch what unfolds.
like the WAGatha Christie? how should it be named? Charlock Holmes?

i do hope KC beats cancer and recovers. and those two cunts can fuck off then fuck off some more.
 
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da1sycha1n

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Next instalment of Spore:

"... and I runneth to my dying father and was so full of love for my dear brother, when Wills sock me and tear me another one . This time I flew so hard to break the ancient wooden door. And all I could think was "Why Willy?!?"...."
perfect! spore. that 's exactly what he is, a mould spore! a nasty, destructive, vile and hard to remove! The Spore and his Whore has a lovely ring to it especially alarm bells!
 
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Sami Lee

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Here's the video of them driving the Stain through a red light on the way from the airport:

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One nasty fucking drug-addled paranoid idiot and his overnight bag (plus secret recording devices)? It takes 2 brand new gvt security vehicles and 2 police cars - all at your and my expense - to get him from Heathrow to central London??
One black cab would have been more than enough - to take him to a mental treatment facility.

This extreme privilege has to stop.
 
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Plantagenet

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I don’t see it that way myself although I know some will. The police etc have always maintained that when he is in UK on royal duty. Visiting the King could be considered royal. Hasbeen will get all the security he needs. It’s having the IPP status & security 24/7 and anywhere in the World the loser boy wants. That is what he is after. This security is not enough for him.
I don't quite agree with that. He gets security when carrying out royal duties, and when exactly is he doing that? Not anymore. No funeral or coronation for him to go to. Visiting his father is just visiting his father. William drove to the hospital to see Catherine without any motorcade. He gets security if staying on royal property by nature of the fact that it is royal property. Andrew gets this. and another reason why he doesn't want to leave a royal property to live. No this is just Harry trying to show his importance and he had Backgrid there to pap him. It is all optics to show Netflix that he has a big dick.
 
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Happy Lady

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The Sun are onto it.
ETA He really does look a fool. All that effort for 30 mins with his father. I think he can put this down as a fail and I'm surprised he dares show his face in Montecito.

Unbelievable - there are unanswered questions and possibilities.

Why did H come in the first place?
Did he really want to see his father? Or was he summoned? Was he required to attend in person to sign a document?

Why didn't Charles allow H to have a room in one of his homes overnight?

Why didn't Charles tell H he'd already made arrangements to go to Norfolk and arrange to meet his darling boy there, and let him stay overnight with him? Like most families would.

Why did H feel the need to announce he was visiting the UK, and why arrange for Backgrid to take pictures and post them all over?

Is H trying to gather information for a Spareme2 or to give to his Ho?

Why did Charles agree to H being met at Heathrow and escorted to BP?
 
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