Harry and Meghan #4 They're not OK it's official, but where is baby Archificial?

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If Harry has had enough of public life, wants to go and keep chickens in a shack, get fat etc fine. If Meghan didn't realise the attention she would get, wants to go home to the US, raise her family, fine. But that's not what they want. They want to be celebs, to raise their profile even further, to become properly rich. All while keeping the bits of royal life they want, titles, properties, security, deference. Sort of OK, and to be negotiated. But this I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN NOW, like moody teenagers telling their parents they hate them... That's odd.
I'd say the rf will bend over backwards to keep them in the tent pissing out, rather than out the tent, pissing in,
It won't go well, they're not the Obamas, they are not that bright, neither have any achievements or talent.
It's sad to think of Harry after the inevitable divorce, Prince Andrew 2.0, sordid and pointless life.
Agree. Earlier today I was thinking of Harry post divorce. And they will divorce because she will leave him. He'll have to stay in America because of the boy and he will be as lonely as lonely can be. He will have lost his wife, his child, his family and the public support.

Before marriage Harry always seemed to be included with Kate and William. The three appeared regularly together. It seems to have changed post marriage. Thats not a dig at Meghan, maybe he was included so that he wasn’t left out. But this should have all been communicated to him and her when they got engaged.
I have no objection to them leaving. But I do object to;
- retaining 95% Duchy income.
- monetising from their royal titles.
- freedoms to publish in press.
- Frogmore - an apartment would suffice when they return to stay unless it’s 50:50 in both countries.

Other Royals (Anne, Edward, Zara, Phillip P) have found a way to live relatively normal lives without any of this, but Harry and Meghan want to retain the best parts of Royal life with full control. That control should respectfully sit with our Majesty. Finding a blueprint? Surely they have one with the above mentioned?

Their titles should go, but he retains as was born, a Prince.

My opinion they can’t be the number one royals in the UK. So they will be the only British Royals in Canada.
I absolutely agree with all of the above.
 
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I’m not sure Harry is quite Prince Andrew yet. To be fair to Harry, Prince Andrew was hanging out with a man who’d just served time for having sex with 14 year olds (at the very least!). I hope on principle that Prince Andrew will go away & not be heard from again. I also hope he’s not getting the kind of money Harry hopes to keep.

Most people seem to have a problem with Harry wanting the best of both worlds which is fair enough.
 
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Good summary on another blog site below



And if it was worded this way in the press, people would be reacting differently.
Yes, the use of ‘step back’ and not ‘step down’ reeks of ‘but we will keep all the perks and privileges thank you, without doing the stuff we don’t fancy doing any more’
 
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I'm in the camp that believes Harry wanted this all along and Meghan just nudged him along the route to quit faster than he would have done it alone.

The only time he was thriving in the BRF was with Will+Kate, and amongst the Invictus games and Sentebale. Prior to that he was all teenage angst and since the wedding he seems deeply troubled in his demeanour. He just looks so miserable.

I remember when I was younger, there was talk that he wanted a quiet life in Africa. He thought she wanted the same and theirs was to be a perfect path carved out together as a married couple.
The thing is, her mask has slipped and we can see that for her it was all about the fame/ clout/ money/ access to the 1%.
His dream of making a real difference in this world seems to have been lost. He's now about "financial independence" i.e. milking the cash cow off the back of his title. He's lost his way and isn't likely to come back. I definitely think she played a big role in that.

Do I blame her fully? Nope. He's an adult and he thinks he's being noble choosing his wife over his duty, and protecting his new family from the same fate of his mother. He is so wrong on all these fronts. He can't see how she's isolated him entirely. And his treatment of his grandparents (both when Phillip was in the hospital and now how they broke this news) is unconscionable!
But make no mistake- I strongly feel that she is in control, that she has manipulated him from the start, and that she is behind all this hurry to get out quickly now. It's just that he's a willing accomplice.

Let them go. Maybe they'll do some good or maybe they'll sell out to line their own pockets. Either way, the best thing is for everyone to ignore them! She would die if the press just decided to literally ignore them entirely now that they've opted out of the rota! :ROFLMAO: I am hopeful that will still happen once all this has settled down. There are others who are just as click-baity as these two and would sell the magazines/papers, and those celebs won't throw temper tantrums!
I am pretty sure his family mentioned this to him, but he was being manipulated by a covert narcissist! You can't see this tit at all until it's too late and you're having a nervous breakdown! I know, because it's happened to me.

We all saw this coming. We all knew she was going to divide and take him away from his family. We all saw this! I am sure his family did too and his friends. Too bad he's still not seeing tit lmao. It's sad now because there is already a baby involved so it makes things way complicated.
 
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I wonder what the other royal families of the world think about this behind closed doors.
 
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I am pretty sure his family mentioned this to him, but he was being manipulated by a covert narcissist! You can't see this tit at all until it's too late and you're having a nervous breakdown! I know, because it's happened to me.

We all saw this coming. We all knew she was going to divide and take him away from his family. We all saw this! I am sure his family did too and his friends. Too bad he's still not seeing tit lmao. It's sad now because there is already a baby involved so it makes things way complicated.
Sadly, me too. There was nothing anyone could say to me that would have made me leave either, only opening my own eyes when the tit happened 1 too many times and that took over 6 years!
 
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But the trouble is even if he is unhappy with the plans (I can't really believe he can be totally OK with leaving all his family behind) it would be such a humiliating climb down to admit it was the wrong thing.
Obviously I don't know but that video has really opened my eyes to the peculiar dynamics between them and the rest of the RF. I wonder if MM thought she had Charles wrapped around her little finger, her grinning at him hoping he would soften and include them but it didn't work. The rest of them including the Queen just ignoring them. This might happen quite a lot away from the cameras too. Instead of being central to the RF and very important and loved they are seen by them as a bit of an embarrassment. The tactics used to ingratiate yourself in normal celeb society simply don't work. I can imagine how irritated the 'senior' Royals were every time either of them spoke about their feelings or how unhappy they were - simply does not conform to the 'never complain, never explain' mantra drilled into the rest of them. So possibly they have been frozen out in a way and are putting a brave face on the move being empowering and 100% their choice.
 
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Two things:
1. How are they going to be received if they do ever do any UK based 'work' again? I know I certainly wouldn't should up to see them especially her on her own.

2. If they are not allowed to monetise their titles(and they 100% should not be), how many months will the marriage last do you think?
 
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Thread 5# Title suggestion. I mentioned this in the thread - Will #Megxit happen before #brexit?
 
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If anyone watches the Real Housewives of New York, they’ll get the reference! This really made me laugh! 😂
 
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Its time to get rid of them what an archaic and ridiculous institution not to mention weirdos
Well - France is a republic. Have you seen the presidential couple? They have been together since he was 15 and she (his teacher at the time) 39. Talk about weirdos...
 
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Harry and Meghan- they want their cake and eat it, will it be Megxit before Brexit?
 
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Well - France is a republic. Have you seen the presidential couple? They have been together since he was 15 and she (his teacher at the time) 39. Talk about weirdos...
Yes but you can get shot of them, we are stuck with the unelected royal family
 
Omg that video. I was cringing with second hand embarrassment for them - the way they were escorted out by palace staff as they weren't meant to be there. Wtf were they thinking?
And yet the second they were told "Stand back!", they both took a step forward and continued to make their way forward, until the palace staff caught up to them!

That to me was so (passively) defiant. Even their positioning at the door I think was meant to make it so that they could sort of force their way in, as they knew that they were not supposed to be there. They knew the media were there and they both placed themselves where they could be seen by the cameras, thinking nobody would want to make a spectacle of them with the press there. Well, Charles did 🤣

I have to say I didn't cringe at all when I saw the clip, I was delighted they were escorted out, if nothing else for their insolence.
 
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And yet the second they were told "Stand back!", they both took a step forward and continued to make their way forward, until the palace staff caught up to them!

That to me was so (passively) defiant. Even their positioning at the door I think was meant to make it so that they could sort of force their way in, as they knew that they were not supposed to be there. They knew the media were there and they both placed themselves where they could be seen by the cameras, thinking nobody would want to make a spectacle of them with the press there. Well, Charles did 🤣

I have to say I didn't cringe at all when I saw the clip, I was delighted they were escorted out, if for nothing else than their insolence.
What video is that? And what happened?
 
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