Harry and Meghan #4 They're not OK it's official, but where is baby Archificial?

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LisaS

Eirawen said:
Yes but you can get shot of them, we are stuck with the unelected royal family
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Yes, we can get rid of them, but from experience, the next ones will also be weirdos. Maybe a different kind, but still just as bad, if not worse. It's not the regime per se, it's that whoever is in power should always be watched closely and be held accountable.

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What video is that? And what happened?
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It's in @Jelly Bean 's posting, you can click on her name in the quote in my posting, it will take you to it.
 
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PoorPatrol said:
Are you joking? Being black isn’t defined by being light or dark skinned, she’s light skinned and she identifies as black because that’s her heritage. Please don’t insinuate she isn’t ‘properly’ black, because she is. She identified as black long before she met Harry. That’s not some kind of a woke ‘choice’ or political statement, and given the degree of racism in the US, wasn’t a passport to an easy life. Ffs that’s so offensive!
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She identifies as biracial. Please stop. As a black woman I’m absolutely sick and tired of black women and/or other women of color sticking up for her like she’s some black and civil rights activist. Stop caping so hard for a woman who doesn’t give a rats ass about black women or black causes. There are plenty of other black celebrities doing the damn thing for us as opposed to whining, entitled, privileged ass Meghan Markle.
 
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Jelly Bean

Jelly Bean

LisaS said:
And yet the second they were told "Stand back!", they both took a step forward and continued to make their way forward, until the palace staff caught up to them!

That to me was so (passively) defiant. Even their positioning at the door I think was meant to make it so that they could sort of force their way in, as they knew that they were not supposed to be there. They knew the media were there and they both placed themselves where they could be seen by the cameras, thinking nobody would want to make a spectacle of them with the press there. Well, Charles did 🤣

I have to say I didn't cringe at all when I saw the clip, I was delighted they were escorted out, if for nothing else than their insolence.
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Yes you are right - I think they thought nobody would make a fuss and they could just filter in. Harry gesturing them in with his arm as if he was in charge really did take the biscuit!
 
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Eirawen

Eirawen

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Yes, we can get rid of them, but from experience, the next ones will also be weirdos. Maybe a different kind, but still just as bad, if not worse. It's not the regime per se, it's that whoever is in power should always be watched closely and be held accountable.


Erm are we going to have another royal family then???? Who will it be, will we adopt the scandnavian ones or will Danny Dyer be our next sovereign? Once you get rid of a monarchy its very rare for them to return, your argument is more pertinent regarding the election of politicians.
It's in @Jelly Bean 's posting, you can click on her name in the quote in my posting, it will take you to it.
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Charlotte1993

Charlotte1993

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She identifies as biracial. Please stop. As a black woman I’m absolutely sick and tired of black women and/or other women of color sticking up for her like she’s some black and civil rights activist. Stop caping so hard for a woman who doesn’t give a rats ass about black women or black causes. There are plenty of other black celebrities doing the damn thing for us as opposed to whining, entitled, privileged ass Meghan Markle.
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Exactly your so right my BFF agrees with you as well, in fact she is making a mockery of herself running away, face the royal family stand your ground , have some gumption scuttling away only makes a person look like a rat crawling back in their hole, act like a grown woman and hash it out, if you’re brave enough to bail be brave enough to clean up the fallout.
 
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PoorPatrol

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She identifies as biracial. Please stop. As a black woman I’m absolutely sick and tired of black women and/or other women of color sticking up for her like she’s some black and civil rights activist. Stop caping so hard for a woman who doesn’t give a rats ass about black women or black causes. There are plenty of other black celebrities doing the damn thing for us as opposed to whining, entitled, privileged ass Meghan Markle.
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I wasn’t suggesting that she is the vanguard for black feminism, or saying anything much about her really in a wider sense. There are incredible black women doing everything they can for black causes. I am definitely aware that she isn’t someone I need to stick up for and she is highly unlikely to be reading any of this.

My point was that to show a picture of someone’s skin and then saying it isn’t dark enough, and that they effectively “weaponise their race” (which is what MOD said about Candice Braithwaite and she was roundly called out for being racist), is not a fair path to go down. I don’t know enough about Meghan or her family or what she does or doesn’t do for the black community - but what I don’t think is acceptable is for anyone to start picking apart whether or not she’s properly black, or has the right to be identified in whatever way because of the lighter tone/colour of her skin.

I’m absolutely no expert on race, not many people are, it’s a famously complex subject. What I do think, though, is that nobody has the right to say that Meghan isn’t quite black enough, that she enhances her blackness with bronzer for some nefarious purpose, or uses her race when it suits her. That’s not for anyone to say, it’s an insult that goes a step too far and makes me feel sick. Whatever anyone thinks of her behaviour and personality is just subjective, I couldn’t care less, opinion is opinion and it’s all fine and it’s the reason we’re here discussing these things. I think “she’s only black when it suits her, look how pale her legs are, she’s pretending to be black so she can call us racists” is below the belt.
 
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Charlotte1993

Charlotte1993

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I wasn’t suggesting that she is the vanguard for black feminism, or saying anything much about her really in a wider sense. There are incredible black women doing everything they can for black causes. I am definitely aware that she isn’t someone I need to stick up for and she is highly unlikely to be reading any of this.

My point was that to show a picture of someone’s skin and then saying it isn’t dark enough, and that they effectively “weaponise their race” (which is what MOD said about Candice Braithwaite and she was roundly called out for being racist), is not a fair path to go down. I don’t know enough about Meghan or her family or what she does or doesn’t do for the black community - but what I don’t think is acceptable is for anyone to start picking apart whether or not she’s properly black, or has the right to be identified in whatever way because of the lighter tone/colour of her skin.

I’m absolutely no expert on race, not many people are, it’s a famously complex subject. What I do think, though, is that nobody has the right to say that Meghan isn’t quite black enough, that she enhances her blackness with bronzer for some nefarious purpose, or uses her race when it suits her. That’s not for anyone to say, it’s an insult that goes a step too far and makes me feel sick. Whatever anyone thinks of her behaviour and personality is just subjective, I couldn’t care less, opinion is opinion and it’s all fine and it’s the reason we’re here discussing these things. I think “she’s only black when it suits her, look how pale her legs are, she’s pretending to be black so she can call us racists” is below the belt.
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If it’s a lie it’s definitely below the belt I’m with you there for sure, and people have the right to bronze up or fake tan it’s just most people match up it’s the same when you see IG influencers with a tan face and white hands it’s looks weird and they often get called out for it, does it really matter tho that’s the point ?
 
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PoorPatrol said:
I wasn’t suggesting that she is the vanguard for black feminism, or saying anything much about her really in a wider sense. There are incredible black women doing everything they can for black causes. I am definitely aware that she isn’t someone I need to stick up for and she is highly unlikely to be reading any of this.

My point was that to show a picture of someone’s skin and then saying it isn’t dark enough, and that they effectively “weaponise their race” (which is what MOD said about Candice Braithwaite and she was roundly called out for being racist), is not a fair path to go down. I don’t know enough about Meghan or her family or what she does or doesn’t do for the black community - but what I don’t think is acceptable is for anyone to start picking apart whether or not she’s properly black, or has the right to be identified in whatever way because of the lighter tone/colour of her skin.

I’m absolutely no expert on race, not many people are, it’s a famously complex subject. What I do think, though, is that nobody has the right to say that Meghan isn’t quite black enough, that she enhances her blackness with bronzer for some nefarious purpose, or uses her race when it suits her. That’s not for anyone to say, it’s an insult that goes a step too far and makes me feel sick. Whatever anyone thinks of her behaviour and personality is just subjective, I couldn’t care less, opinion is opinion and it’s all fine and it’s the reason we’re here discussing these things. I think “she’s only black when it suits her, look how pale her legs are, she’s pretending to be black so she can call us racists” is below the belt.
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Showing a picture to define how “black” she is because of her fair complexion is unfair — on that we can agree. That being said, I do believe that she does weaponize race when it suits her, such as when she met Beyonce and said “they don’t make it easy for us”. It’s unfair for her to make such a statement when she’s never been part of the “us”, but now wants to be included in that because she believes she is getting unfair criticism. This is where I have an issue with how she identifies because she’s made it abundantly clear through the years that she identifies as biracial (not as a black woman — which is TOTALLY fine because that’s her prerogative) and has also seemed to somewhat distance herself from the black side of her family UNTIL her falling out with her father and then she wanted to alter the narrative. It’s wrong to change your life story in order to have a get out of jail free card when the world calls you out on your blatant hypocrisy.
 
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She might try and pop another kid out, hilarious if was another boy!
Life repeating itself 😂🤣
Diana was a problem for the royals, now it’s Rachel Markle!!

(lets hope this story doesn’t end the same way, Rachel don’t accept a lift from anyone ok, because I want that bio and interview tour 😬)

I feel this will bring them closer for a while, they’re united in hatred, at the press, at the media, at the family.
but that won’t last, they’re already cut off from her side of the family, they’re choosing to cut off his as well, taking the “royal“ label out of it he’s not just walking away from a job he’s walking away from his family, nephews, niece, sister in law (who I always thought he had a thing for 🤷‍♀️)

How long before the victim Harry blames her for his latest predicament.
poor poor Harry.

Harry and Rachel #5 Grow up Harry. 😬
 
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