Gender Discussions #3

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Have been chatting with a good friend of mine via Skype. She's happily married and is totally straight, and doesn't pay much attention to gender politics on her social media sites because she finds the whole narrative rather pointless and tiresome.

However, she did ask me a couple frank questions regarding transgenderism. One of which was "Have you ever wondered what it must be like to be a man, and to have a pen, and to behave and think the way most men do?"

It was quite a perceptive question I suppose, and I gave it plenty of thought. But decided that no, I have never really wanted to be a bloke, and never would in the future either.

But then she pushed me further my saying "Have you ever felt attracted to men/boys? Have you ever wanted to know what it must feel like to hold a pen or have one inside you?" etc.

Again, quite interesting questions, but my answers were rather mundane "I just don't feel physically attracted to men. I don't hate them. I just don't want the physical aspect!"

"But why is that?" she probed.

I guess what she was getting at was that certain human trait that determines whether we prefer one sex over the other. Is it a natural human instinct that makes women prefer men and vice versa; or is it society that tells us?

Personally I think it was just human preference/instinct when I decided I preferred girls over boys when I came out at 15. But these days I don't know if it is human instinct, but more how society, and social media in particular, determines how you behave and what your preferences should be.

Am struggling to explain myself clearly, and have already waffled on for far too long! Sorry.:rolleyes::oops:
 
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Weird thing to grill someone on if you ask me!

You could just as easily flip the question on its head and ask why she isn't attracted to women!
 
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Weird thing to grill someone on if you ask me!

You could just as easily flip the question on its head and ask why she isn't attracted to women!
Weird, yes. But she's a good friend and we talk about different things. And on this occasion it was a talk about transgenderism.

But you're right. Next time round I'll ask her why she isn't attracted to me! :LOL:
 
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Sad about Suzanne.

You know majority (mainly women) feel the same as her but are so worried about speaking out and getting cancelled, or they support the wokeness purely for career gain. Shame on the women who took a stand against her and signed the petition, your future is being erased and you are participating in helping that.

this just makes me so angry for what the future holds for my daughters.
 
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The image being projected onto a wall is a reference to an Irish trans identified male being chosen as one of Ireland's women of the year on International Women's Day and their image subsequently being projected on a few buildings in Dublin
"Mobile breeding sows" "Breathing in a way that indicates lack of acceptance"
I mean, really !???

It really is too early in the morning for this touchy-feely "hate crime" lunacy. I'm off to get dressed in my blatantly feminine attire, and slap on some "purple" lipstick while I'm at it.

Must remember to breathe in a non-threatening way too, ffs!:mad:

(My first swear word of the day, and its only half 7 :rolleyes: )
 
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I mean, really !???

It really is too early in the morning for this touchy-feely "hate crime" lunacy. I'm off to get dressed in my blatantly feminine attire, and slap on some "purple" lipstick while I'm at it.

Must remember to breathe in a non-threatening way too, ffs!:mad:

(My first swear word of the day, and its only half 7 :rolleyes: )
Sorry, I should have said that it's satire! I haven't had caffeine yet 🤣
 
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In truth, I did have an inkling it might be. But in these crazy days you can never be absolutely sure. Plus. am only still half-awake, so my brain isn't fully engaged yet :rolleyes:
The line is so thin nowadays!

Barely awake too, someone pass the coffee!
 
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So it finally happened, I was asked to go into a group and introduce myself using pronouns. There is one man on the entire course and he’s now changed his name to ‘..... (male name) he/him’. So have 80% of them women on there. I will not. I said in the group that I don’t feel comfortable using them as it’s pretty obvious from my name and my appearance I’m a woman so will go by she and her. And then got shot down about why we should use them. They’re all talking about putting them on their email signatures too. Think there are about 2 people whose names might not be clear about sex?! I get that it’s good to make people more comfortable using they/them if THEY choose to but I don’t?! And I’m not saying, hi, I’m Hollie, a ciswoman who uses she and her pronouns.’ I refuse!
 
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So it finally happened, I was asked to go into a group and introduce myself using pronouns. There is one man on the entire course and he’s now changed his name to ‘..... (male name) he/him’. So have 80% of them women on there. I will not. I said in the group that I don’t feel comfortable using them as it’s pretty obvious from my name and my appearance I’m a woman so will go by she and her. And then got shot down about why we should use them. They’re all talking about putting them on their email signatures too. Think there are about 2 people whose names might not be clear about sex?! I get that it’s good to make people more comfortable using they/them if THEY choose to but I don’t?! And I’m not saying, hi, I’m Hollie, a ciswoman who uses she and her pronouns.’ I refuse!
I really hate this. They all jump on the bandwagon and back you into a corner. It's so hypocritical of them, preaching inclusivity and choice whilst taking away ours away. If someone doesn't want to "use pronouns" then they shouldn't have to.
 
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The pronouns thing is getting out of hand. Trans people can call themselves what they want or use whatever pronouns they want but when they force unwanted terms (cis) and unnecessary pronoun use in the rest of us, nope, not having it
 
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@CheshireLove PERFECT! I’m just gonna say that if anyone questions it. Totally true, where is my option to say no? Also, lots of trans people don’t want to use the word ‘trans’ at the start, so they don’t. I don’t want (or should need!) to say ‘cis’ at the start. If someone has a non gender specific name and want to put their pronouns in emails so people know who they’re speaking to, fine but unless you are NB yourself what’s the point? Most names are pretty clear and also, in an email TO someone, surely you’re using ‘you/your’ anyway 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
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I'm glad to see pushback on "cis". It makes me so sad and angry when women use it. We should not be demoted to a subset of our own sex
 
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I’m kind of embarrassed to think back to when I explained the term to my friends a couple of years ago as they didn’t know about it... probably in a slightly condescending manner 🤦🏻‍♀️ Now I’m like, take it away from me!
 
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I’m kind of embarrassed to think back to when I explained the term to my friends a couple of years ago as they didn’t know about it... probably in a slightly condescending manner 🤦🏻‍♀️ Now I’m like, take it away from me!
Well done for pushing back. I can see this coming soon in my workplace, more and more email sigs suddenly have the pronouns in the email even just this past couple of weeks (I guess some might have had training on awarenesss week). Thanks to the discussion above I am ready to say “and what about my choice?”. I work in a big place so these things and trainings take a while to filter through so you can start to see patterns emerging.
 
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But! BUT!! He’s not actually a Pdough, he’s just got such OCD about being a Pdough that he finds it hard to function in every day life, the poor lamb. I mean, doesn’t everyone have OCD when it comes to sexualising children and have to really work hard at themselves not to act on it? Everyone? Anyone (normal)?

Let us not forget he was the one that also tweeted this:

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Oh, and look, a Blue Tick to boot. Twitter really is a Pdoughs playground. Oh, I’m sorry, they call themselves MAPs these days, don’t they?
 
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In plain sight:



But! BUT!! He’s not actually a Pdough, he’s just got such OCD about being a Pdough that he finds it hard to function in every day life, the poor lamb. I mean, doesn’t everyone have OCD when it comes to sexualising children and have to really work hard at themselves not to act on it? Everyone? Anyone (normal)?

Let us not forget he was the one that also tweeted this:

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Oh, and look, a Blue Tick to boot. Twitter really is a Pdoughs playground. Oh, I’m sorry, they call themselves MAPs these days, don’t they?
WTF did i just read? Crazy.
 
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WTF did i just read? Crazy.
I am so glad I don't bother with Twatter anymore. I would lose my mind in no time reading that acronym-filled bull day in day out.

Do these people actually have jobs? Or do they spend all day and night making this rit up? :rolleyes:
 
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