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Bodyfeeding makes even less sense then chest feeding, what are you feeding the baby from your ass? are you feeding it from your mouth like a baby bird?

Chestfeeding also makes no sense but at least they're getting warmer XD
 
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I am watching ‘First Day’ on bbc iplayer, a kids drama about a transgender girl enrolling in high school. I am not sure what to expect but I figured I’d watch before my kids stumble across it.
 
No tit it gives an unfair advantage. And it’s not just height that’s the issue, males are a great deal stronger and faster than women thanks to testosterone and male physiology. Even aged 50+, Gabrielle Ludwig could still outplay young women.
It's this Orwellian denial of science and reality that really disturbs me with the left.

MMA transgender fighter Fallon Fox was an unrated nobody as a male fighter, but once transitioned and entered the female divisions, pulverised the competition. In one fight (s)he broke his opponent's skull he hit her so hard. Let that sink in - not her jaw, her skull. The woman said later that she'd never felt so overwhelmed and helpless in a fight before. And as you can imagine, this was a big girl, rippling muscles, peak physical condition, trained competitively for years in full contact martial arts - and Fallon Fox just wiped the floor with her. The reigning woman's champ at the time, Rhonda Rousey, refused to fight Fox. That fight looks like what it is too, a man beating the living hell out of a woman, and is uncomfortable to watch.

If you want to say you're a woman, fine. I'll call you one or Miss or Ms or Lady Godiva if you like. But you ain't a woman. This is where it gets Orwellian with the left as you have to just not go along with it and say it, but you have to believe it too. So you get guys winning women's sports, and leftist clowns cheering, seeing this as progress.
 
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It's this Orwellian denial of science and reality that really disturbs me with the left.

MMA transgender fighter Fallon Fox was an unrated nobody as a male fighter, but once transitioned and entered the female divisions, pulverised the competition. In one fight (s)he broke his opponent's skull he hit her so hard. Let that sink in - not her jaw, her skull. The woman said later that she'd never felt so overwhelmed and helpless in a fight before. And as you can imagine, this was a big girl, rippling muscles, peak physical condition, trained competitively for years in full contact martial arts - and Fallon Fox just wiped the floor with her. The reigning woman's champ at the time, Rhonda Rousey, refused to fight Fox. That fight looks like what it is too, a man beating the living hell out of a woman, and is uncomfortable to watch.

If you want to say you're a woman, fine. I'll call you one or Miss or Ms or Lady Godiva if you like. But you ain't a woman. This is where it gets Orwellian with the left as you have to just not go along with it and say it, but you have to believe it too. So you get guys winning women's sports, and leftist clowns cheering, seeing this as progress.
Terrifying
 
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I watched all 4 episodes of First Day thought I’d share my thoughts..

So, main character called Hannah - transgender girl starting high school, it’s filmed in Australia. First episode breaches the issue of toilets, and at first she is told she has to use the sick bay toilets, the main character obviously wasn’t happy with this.

Mum won’t let hannah sleep over at friends houses unless they and their parents know they are trans. This was dressed up as ‘we need to keep you safe’ but we all know it’s more likely to be the other way round and it’s about keeping the other girls safe. Hannah decides to tell one friend she trusts about being trans, friend is fine with it, I think this scene was meant to be emotional but I didn’t feel it.

Eventually everyone finds out Hannah is trans when a student in another year sends a mass text to everyone in the school. Hannah ends up taking a week off school. Her friends are ok with her being trans, apart from one who leaves their group. In later episodes she is eventually allowed to use the girls toilets after a lot of nagging of the head teacher from her friends.

There’s a kid who Hannah knows from primary school who keeps threatening to deadname and tell everyone about her being trans but never does. It’s briefly implied ‘Isabelle’ has some tit going on at home (Abuse) and honestly I was more interested in her story than Hannah’s but it wasn't explored further.

The last episode they go to a swimming camp, Hannah is in a girls dorm, funny how that was fine but at the start she couldn’t even use the girls toilets. I guess like was mentioned a few times throughout the show, people knowing you’re trans is the most important thing above all else. Forget about any potential safety issues or how if it was the real world not all girls would be so chill about having to share a dorm with a male. One girl gets her period unexpectedly, another girl has a whole stash of sanpro and upon seeing it one of Hannah’s friends say “there’s enough here for every girl at camp!”. Then it cuts to a bit later where the friend apologised to Hannah for that comment because it wasn’t inclusive and she ‘didn’t think’. She said nothing wrong imo and shouldn’t have apologised for saying a perfectly normal thing. Friend then says Hannah is lucky she doesn’t have to deal with periods, then Hannah says she wishes she did🙄🙄🙄🙄

Ohhh almost forgot. The parts where Hannah is explaining what being trans is. She describes it as “when you’re born a girl or a boy but you’re actually the opposite”. I didn’t like the way this was explained because it makes it sound like a medical condition rather than a mental one, and there was zero mention of dysphoria which, imo would make it easier to understand. The character said you know from around 2 or 3 that you are trans (but what about rapid onset gd?). Also felt it was a bit simplistic and too much emphasis on stereotypes (what a surprise), this could potentially cause kids to wonder if they are trans too when they wouldn’t have otherwise just because they wanted to play cars when they were little.

Overall I found it to be nothing more than pro trans propoganda and I won’t be letting my kids access this show because all it would show them is how to make way for men in your female only spaces in the name of being ‘inclusive’. Not a fan.
 
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Fallon Fox is scum. I remember watching a clip where an audience member tells the female opponent to “kick him in the balls” or something to that effect, haha. Ledge.
 
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Fallon Fox is scum. I remember watching a clip where an audience member tells the female opponent to “kick him in the balls” or something to that effect, haha. Ledge.
yeah remember the tweets about how much fun it was breaking a women's skull.
 
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My husband listened to this podcast and recommended it to me... he says it basically discusses all we have here about women being erased. I think I will buy her book too.
 
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Biologist gets banned from a reddit sub. Interesting explanation on why sex is binary.

To be honest, I don't know if it was that comment in particular the reason for the ban, because I got banned automatically after posting it. I've been expressing anti porn, anti violent kinks and anti sex work views in Reddit before. I've also defended JK Rowling, and commented in GenderDifficult. I don't even agree with Gender Critical in several things, but I guess that anything that goes against the narrative in these topics is "terfy". In Reddit, I've said before that is extremely offensive to say that if we consider black woman women, we have to consider trans women women as well, because both are "types of women". I said that a black woman is genetically closer to a white woman than to a black trans woman, because race, unlike sex, is truly a social construct.

I do agree with many of the things that used to be discused in r/GenderCritical: the criticism of porn, sex work and kink, the idea of gender as an identity, the negation of biological sex, the whole "genital preference" nosense, children transitioning, the origin of women opression as sex based and callling out misogyny in the LGTB community. I don't think that "a woman is anyone who identifies as woman". I think that being a man or a woman is a material reality, not a feeling. There is one important aspect in which I disagree: I do consider trans women as social women and trans men as social men. I do consider that men and women should be biological terms, and not social, but I understand that there are social connotations deeply tied to "being a woman" or "being a man" that can be changed in a generation, and why just being an effeminate man is not enough for a trans woman. We are social animals after all, and identity is very important. What I mean by social woman is that for example someone like NikkieTutorials has never lived as "a man", people didn't know that she was trans until she said it, and in her daily life, she's considered as woman by society, so even is she is male, I do consider her a woman. Anyway, this is not what this post is about.

Like I said, I'm a biologist, and I'm getting pissed as I incresealy see more and more "sex is a spectrum" things, even from scientists who want to be woke. This is what I commented in Reddit and presumably what got me banned. In this post I defend a guy who has maked several YouTube videos explaining why sex is a binary. The title of the post in r/feminism is "intersex women are women". This guy has never claimed otherwise. The post was a screenshot of a Twitter reply were a XY woman with vagina and no uterus (probably Swyer syndrome) was calling him out because he said that there are only two sexes and that secondary sex traits don't define sex, primary ones do (what is absolutely correct).

< This post is misleading. He has talked about this in his videos. He doesn't say that chromosomes alone determine sex, what he says is that intersex people are not a third sex or something between male and female, but variations inside male or female. The woman in the post has probably Swyer syndrome: these women are XY but developed as females due to a mutation in the SRY gene, the gene that leads to the development of male characteristics, located in the Y chromosome. This guy has talked about Swyer syndrome before, he said that despite them being XY, they are female because they develop female primary sex traits. He never said that women with Swyer syndrome aren't women. He is right when he says that secondary sex traits don't determine sex: a vagina, uterus and ovaries aren't secondary sex traits, but primary. Secondary sex traits are breasts, facial hair, hormone levels... A woman with a high testosterone level is still female, a man with gynecomasty is still male.

In humans, sex is a binary. There aren't any human hermaphrodites, a third gamete or a third reproductive system. It's true that is not always as simple as XY and XX, he adresses this in his videos. But the exception doesn't make the rule. Intersex conditions are anomalies in embrionary development. Of course, intersex people deserve the same respect and rights as everyone else. He is not saying otherwise.

Saying that sex is a spectrum because 1% of the population has a variation on sex development also implies that men who are muscular and have a beard are "more male" than skinny men with no facial hair, or that women with higher testosterone levels are "less female". This is obviously not true.

I know that there are scientists who are claiming that sex is not a binary, but everyone has their own biases. They show intersex conditions to prove it, and I understand that they say that sex is not a binary to show that things are more complicated than XX= female, XY=male, but again, the exception doesn't make the rule.

Before anyone sends me to "read a book" or to "study biology" because I clearly don't have idea, I'm a biologist. >
 
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Bloody brilliantly stated @Zenchick101! There is so much pseudo-science out there based on absolute nonsense. And the TRAs and their handmaidens think they’re desperately clever when they post links to this so-called ‘science’ that fits their delusions. It’s never peer-reviewed or stated in any credible medical journals, but they seem to believe it, as it fits their bonkers agenda. They still can’t tell us where and what this imaginary third gamete is though; I wonder why that is? 😂

Thank goodness for sensible, rational scientists like you and Dr Debra Soh.
 
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Bloody brilliantly stated @Zenchick101! There is so much pseudo-science out there based on absolute nonsense. And the TRAs and their handmaidens think they’re desperately clever when they post links to this so-called ‘science’ that fits their delusions. It’s never peer-reviewed or stated in any credible medical journals, but they seem to believe it, as it fits their bonkers agenda. They still can’t tell us where and what this imaginary third gamete is though; I wonder why that is? 😂

Thank goodness for sensible, rational scientists like you and Dr Debra Soh.
Oh this was on saidit ! and I thought this person explained it pretty well so thought I'd share. Not quite at that level just yet, although it's scary when you think about it that any and all doctors, (psychologists, physicians etc.) are being at times afraid to tell the truth cause they could risk losing their jobs because of a sensitive little so and so.

Bloody brilliantly stated @Zenchick101! There is so much pseudo-science out there based on absolute nonsense. And the TRAs and their handmaidens think they’re desperately clever when they post links to this so-called ‘science’ that fits their delusions. It’s never peer-reviewed or stated in any credible medical journals, but they seem to believe it, as it fits their bonkers agenda. They still can’t tell us where and what this imaginary third gamete is though; I wonder why that is? 😂

Thank goodness for sensible, rational scientists like you and Dr Debra Soh.
I can tell you that none of my PHD accredited professors have every mentioned a third gamete, a third reproductive system, and when you ask TRAs to provide proof the best they can come up with is "invest into research if it's that interesting to you" right after stating that it's real. Makes no sense what's so ever.
 
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I think genuine trans women (like Laverne Cox’s character in OITNB) shouldn’t be housed with male prisoners. They wouldn’t be safe. LC’s character didn’t have a penis so I suppose she posed less of a risk to female prisoners, considering she passes well as a woman and wasn’t able to use her penis as a weapon. But if it’s an absolute that trans women like her cannot be housed with female prisoners then where should they be? Solitary confinement is awful, and I suppose they could be under house arrest and tagged, depending on the crimes they committed (or didn’t, or have harsh sentences because the justice system is fucked).

Men like Yaniv and Muscato though? I’d house them with male prisoners. I believe they’re just blokes with a fetish and they are a danger to women and children.

I personally think trans men would be better off with female prisoners because a female body is a female body for male prisoners, especially if the likes of Yaniv and Muscato are amongst the male prisoners.

I suppose genuine trans women could be shipped off to a prison that has a trans women wing, which I doubt would be available in every prison because despite how widespread transgenderism seems to be, they’re still a small population. And because I hope that it’s just a dangerous trend/fad, this won’t last too long. Therefore it wouldn’t be economical to accommodate transgendered people everywhere.

Blanchard’s transsexualism typology is really interesting. I believe that I’m not transphobic, and I don’t want to be, I just don’t trust men who seem to be autogynephiles, especially if they demand access to women only spaces, whereas I genuinely support actual trans women who want to be able to live their lives authentically and peacefully without infringing the safe spaces and rights of women and children.

It’s absolutely fucked that I can’t say this stuff on Twitter because I might get ripped to shreds and get all sorts of abuse and insults. I’m not even being inflammatory and I want to help find a solution that benefits everyone. Maybe I’m being harsh about men who have a fetish for being women, like — people have kinks and tit, good for ya, I don’t even care lol but leave that tit away from women and children. It’s no longer a kink (where safety and consent are absolutely vital for everyone involved), it’s predatory and it’s using and hiding behind trans activism and people with good intentions to insist that you’re a trans woman who just wants to live. duck no.

I’m really sorry for this essay, I just have a lot of feelings. 🙈
 
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I have just spent the afternoon in the company of a parent of a trans child with verbal diarrhoea. Going on and on about how they desperately need to get their child onto blockers followed by hormones and being angry at how it’s taking so long. Talking about blockers as if they’re a pause button and nothing more, saying her child needs this otherwise they will look like a ‘guy in drag’. Talking about their child’s body in a way that made me feel quite uncomfortable. Im horrified. How widespread is this blockers are just a pause button nonsense? I am becoming increasingly concerned about blockers. It shouldn’t be ok for a bunch of prepubescent, sterile 18 year olds to be walking around with the bodies of children whilst they wait for their drug enforced ‘puberty’.

I don’t know this person well and I didn’t want to cause drama at a get together, nor did I want to upset anyone to be honest, so it took everything in my power to stfu, but they literally wouldn’t stop talking about it to anyone that would listen.

More research needs to be done, the first port of call for a trans child should not be a lifetime of medicine, to stop their body from developing naturally and causing them to be sterile. No child has the capacity to make that kind of life changing decision. We need to be telling these kids the reality, that their bodies will grow and change and they may not like it but lots of kids feel the same and we can support them through it in other ways that won’t potentially cause harm. Then they can look at hormones when they’re an adult. The whole suicide thing has scared medical professionals into taking very drastic measures with very little, if any research. This is a scandle and hearing about it in real life has honestly cemented my gc views (as if they weren’t already pretty solid). Some parents of trans kids seriously worry me, it’s like they put their kids transness above literally anything else and that’s all they can talk about. Maybe if you stopped going on about it for five minutes it wouldn’t be such a huge deal, there’d be less pressure and the child may even desist, or maybe they won’t but at least the poor kid has chance to think.
 
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