Gender Discussions #2

[Pambo]

It is bizarre. I may disagree with trans ideology but we act in a socially appropriate way when we are around trans people including my daughter's friends and children of my own friends, so I have no idea why we are being singled out.

Again, this is where it gets Orwellian with the 'progressive' Left. Living in a tolerant society means just that: you don't have to like or agree with something, but you have to be tolerant of those that do.

That's not enough for the Left. You can't just "tolerate" it, you have to agree with it, and 100% at that. There's no "each to their own, live and let live, not for me but they're happy so whatever" - no. That's not good enough. You have to embrace their warped ideology wholeheartedly or be hounded as a bigot or a Nazi. You have no choice or right to a differing opinion, and certainly not the right to express it.

I loathe these people, not for their beliefs or lifestyles, but because they're the fascist Wiftchfinder Generals of Political Correctness, always looking for 'subversives' and constantly ready to denounce 'wrongthinkers'.

 

[Mycuppatea]

I thought the whole Lauren of Sparkling Adventures surrogacy thing was the saddest story I heard, even though it was all supposed to be shiny and happy. If you don't know her story,

Spoiler: please be warned

it involves the most traumatic form of infant death I can imagine at the hands of her mentally ill spouse, photos of the deceased child

and in the midst of grief, her subsequent relinquishment of her second son to two men in Iceland, one of whom "laboured" with her in the pool while her older children were staying with them. It was tragic watching it all unfold online.

 

[jewelkitty]

I'm absolutely not comparing them to trans people in any way shape or form, but I wouldn't be surprised if down the road these same woke people find a way to justify rights for pedophiles (or MAPs - "minor attracted people" as they call themselves) into the LGBTQAAI+++++++ community

They always, always look for a new social justice battle to fight, they will never be happy in their post-woke utopia as nothing will ever be good enough

 

[emm]

I'm absolutely not comparing them to trans people in any way shape or form, but I wouldn't be surprised if down the road these same woke people find a way to justify rights for pedophiles (or MAPs - "minor attracted people" as they call themselves) into the LGBTQAAI+++++++ community

They always, always look for a new social justice battle to fight, they will never be happy in their post-woke utopia as nothing will ever be good enough

god that paedophile group is awful, I listened to a podcast (I cannot for the life of me remember what it was) that was an anonymous interview with a convicted paeodophile in the US who had recently left prison. At first, it seemed like he was genuinley repentant, but as the interview went on he started to justify himself and said things like how paeodophiles are viewed how gay people once were, implying somehow that what he was doing was just akin to a relationship with another consenting adult. I had never heard of this movement before, it was genuinley shocking

 

[Vee6]

Benjamin dick head is still at it on Twitter. I’m going to have to stop looking or start drinking

 

[thegirlscout]

I don’t want to live in a world where surrogacy becomes easier and more accessible than adopting a child who is already here and needs a home now.

Slightly veering here but I agree with this part of the argument. I think our laws or process around adoption needs a shake up. I’ve read so many cases where potential parents were dismissed because they weren’t the right colour or religion or orientation, etc. I think that yes, if you can it’s important that a child goes to a family that has a similar background but I don’t think it’s important enough that it should stop a potential adoption. There could be new regulations where the parents have to go to lessons or something similar to learn about the child’s cultural heritage or their native language so they at least have some understanding. For example this couple come to mind https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sikh-couple-told-cant-adopt-21040300

 

[judgejohndeed]

Slightly veering here but I agree with this part of the argument. I think our laws or process around adoption needs a shake up. I’ve read so many cases where potential parents were dismissed because they weren’t the right colour or religion or orientation, etc. I think that yes, if you can it’s important that a child goes to a family that has a similar background but I don’t think it’s important enough that it should stop a potential adoption. There could be new regulations where the parents have to go to lessons or something similar to learn about the child’s cultural heritage or their native language so they at least have some understanding. For example this couple come to mind https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sikh-couple-told-cant-adopt-21040300

I agree and I don’t know why this is allowed. It seems very outdated.

Benjamin Cohen told someone off when they suggested he adopt, for policing how he and his husband have a family or something. For someone who thinks biology is meaningless when it comes to trans people he clearly values that genetic tie when it comes to having his own children, such a hypocrite. Also not very progressive. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against people wanting their ‘own’ children at all but I would say that’s a pretty traditional and small c conservative view, not very woke of the woke king.

 

[HoGi]

Slightly veering here but I agree with this part of the argument. I think our laws or process around adoption needs a shake up. I’ve read so many cases where potential parents were dismissed because they weren’t the right colour or religion or orientation, etc. I think that yes, if you can it’s important that a child goes to a family that has a similar background but I don’t think it’s important enough that it should stop a potential adoption. There could be new regulations where the parents have to go to lessons or something similar to learn about the child’s cultural heritage or their native language so they at least have some understanding. For example this couple come to mind https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sikh-couple-told-cant-adopt-21040300

It is completely wrong. Friends of mine are a married gay couple. They have been approved for adoption and basically had to fill out an order form for what they wanted age, sex, race, etc. They explained that they just want a child and aren't fussy but that isn't allowed. You have to make a selection. They also said they weren't adverse to a sibling group but you had to chose that OR an individual child. It’s horrible that there are kids out there they could provide a loving home to that won't meet the narrow criteria they were forced into closing from

 

[thegirlscout]

It is completely wrong. Friends of mine are a married gay couple. They have been approved for adoption and basically had to fill out an order form for what they wanted age, sex, race, etc. They explained that they just want a child and aren't fussy but that isn't allowed. You have to make a selection. They also said they weren't adverse to a sibling group but you had to chose that OR an individual child. It’s horrible that there are kids out there they could provide a loving home to that won't meet the narrow criteria they were forced into closing from

It’s so outdated! Those poor children who could have potentially been adopted into a wonderful family have to now stay in care until someone else falls into this very narrow criteria. And your friends aren’t able to becoming loving and caring parents. Everyone loses out but no one wants to fix these things!

 

[SamGeddd90]

I'm absolutely not comparing them to trans people in any way shape or form, but I wouldn't be surprised if down the road these same woke people find a way to justify rights for pedophiles (or MAPs - "minor attracted people" as they call themselves) into the LGBTQAAI+++++++ community

They always, always look for a new social justice battle to fight, they will never be happy in their post-woke utopia as nothing will ever be good enough

I was discussing this the other day - are we going to end up in a society where paedophilia is accepted and you’re a terrible person if you disagree!? I mean I would think the answer would be absolutely not and it will never be accepted as a “sexual orientation” but the way things are going I don’t know how much it would surprise me.

 

[Vee6]

I was discussing this the other day - are we going to end up in a society where paedophilia is accepted and you’re a terrible person if you disagree!? I mean I would think the answer would be absolutely not and it will never be accepted as a “sexual orientation” but the way things are going I don’t know how much it would surprise me.

I now wonder if the end goal is paedophillia acceptance.
NCPCc again

 

[emm]

I now wonder if the end goal is paedophillia acceptance.
NCPCc again

wtaf!!

 

[thatstupidcat]

I now wonder if the end goal is paedophillia acceptance.
NCPCc again

Didn’t the NSPCC have a high level salaried employee who would wear a rubber suit to work at their HQ, who would film themselves masturbating in their work’s toilets and put the video onto their online blog?

I just want to check that I didn’t dream seeing that pervert’s sex face plastered all over social media the other year, whilst people screamed ”homophobe!” at anyone who dared question the appropriateness of it all.

If that’s the case, perhaps the NSPCC is another one of those captured institutions.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

Didn’t the NSPCC have a high level salaried employee who would wear a rubber suit to work at their HQ, who would film themselves masturbating in their work’s toilets and put the video onto their online blog?

I just want to check that I didn’t dream seeing that pervert’s sex face plastered all over social media the other year, whilst people screamed ”homophobe!” at anyone who dared question the appropriateness of it all.

If that’s the case, perhaps the NSPCC is another one of those captured institutions.

I definitely remember that happening. Cannot remember the guys name though.

That Waterworld event is shocking. The fact that it’s a ‘family’ event and not adults only just makes me sick. Why would any parent take their children to this. Why is this even allowed to happen? I’m truly disgusted.

 

[Vee6]

Yes that’s right. It was a man in a rubber mini skirt, masterbating in the women’s loos and filming it. Said person employed monroe who was then sacked for inviting minors to send private messages to her

 

[CheshireLove]

“MAP positivity”, all time low conviction rates for sex offenders, freely available content that sexualises children, the abundance of pornography including violent porn and categories of “teen” and “barely legal or underage”, modern feminism that says that women should be sexualised to like violence and are prudes for not being sexual....it seems there’s never been a better time to be a paedophile. It’s being normalised before our eyes.

 

[Vee6]

Also on podcast. I listened to this the other day. And it’s haunted me ever since. What happened at the youth groups and collages is really twisted and the abuse from grown ups in horrific. Worth listening to, to see how the youngsters are captured under everyone’s noses

 

[Falkor]

Yes, the MAP lot supporting trans rights is worrying, for two reasons:

1) If it's found that a child can give legal consent to puberty blockers against their parents' wishes, then that opens the door for them to argue that a child can consent to a relationship

2) Putting kids on puberty blockers until they're allowed to start cross-sex hormones at 18 leaves a gap where you have individuals who have reached the legal age of consent for sex at 16, but still have a pre-pubescent body

 

[emmer_moans]

Yes, the MAP lot supporting trans rights is worrying, for two reasons:

1) If it's found that a child can give legal consent to puberty blockers against their parents' wishes, then that opens the door for them to argue that a child can consent to a relationship

2) Putting kids on puberty blockers until they're allowed to start cross-sex hormones at 18 leaves a gap where you have individuals who have reached the legal age of consent for sex at 16, but still have a pre-pubescent body

This is so messed up

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

It’s a truly terrifying time to be a parent in this world.