what are you talking about? I’m rly fed up of people thinking bi people are pretending to be straight. Do you also think bi people are greedy, cheating sluts too? I can’t believe people still believe this shit in this day and age.It’s not uncommon; because most women do not want to be with MSM, some of them who seek a girlfriend simply pretend to be fully straight.
Just like with trans strong arming their way into womanhood, women’s boundaries are an obstacle to be overcome. The man wanting something sexually and not getting it (the MSM who wants a woman) is the victim.
I don't think that's what that post said at all?what are you talking about? I’m rly fed up of people thinking bi people are pretending to be straight. Do you also think bi people are greedy, cheating sluts too? I can’t believe people still believe this shit in this day and age.
I thought this was a thread about gender, not shitting on people who dare to be attracted to both men and women.
Like, what the fuck? Many straight men have sex without protection and they also cheat but sure, let’s focus on bi men. What do they think is going to happen if they have sex with a bi man? You can be straight and be with a bi man. His sexuality doesn’t change your sexuality??? Also, straight people get STDs and HIV too. They lie about their sexual history too, whether they’ve been tested, etc. But nah, OP is being blatant with their biphobia.It’s a big deal because you’re about to sleep with them too. Your sexual partner’s history is very much your business. (And if you know anything about sexual health, you’ll know that sleeping with bisexual men is very risky). It’s important to many women and just because you don’t mind, doesn’t mean you are “right” and everyone else should change their sexuality to match yours. It’s absolutely fine that you’re personally not bothered; your body, your choice. It’s not a choice if you’re not told though.
I would never consent to sleeping with a bisexual man. That is not dogma, that is my inalienable right to say no.
I don't know, it's a personal preference. Anyone can sleep with who they want and anyone can refuse to sleep with someone for any reason. I wouldn't want to be involved with a bi man due to my own insecurities, not biphobia@Mamacita, OP also said this:
Like, what the fuck? Many straight men have sex without protection and they also cheat but sure, let’s focus on bi men. What do they think is going to happen if they have sex with a bi man? You can be straight and be with a bi man. His sexuality doesn’t change your sexuality??? Also, straight people get STDs and HIV too. They lie about their sexual history too, whether they’ve been tested, etc. But nah, OP is being blatant with their biphobia.
Sure, no one can and should not force you to sleep with someone you don’t want but you got to acknowledge that you are being prejudiced in your thinking. Insecure because being bi automatically means they will cheat on you?I don't know, it's a personal preference. Anyone can sleep with who they want and anyone can refuse to sleep with someone for any reason. I wouldn't want to be involved with a bi man due to my own insecurities, not biphobia
No, I just feel like I would always question myself if I'm enough or giving them what they want as I already have an issue with that with completely straight people. If another aspect comes into this, it would make it worse. And this is my own personal issue, nothing to do with anyone else.Sure, no one can and should not force you to sleep with someone you don’t want but you got to acknowledge that you are being prejudiced in your thinking. Insecure because being bi automatically means they will cheat on you?
I’m bi and I’m extremely loyal and monogamist (if that’s a word). I had a lesbian girlfriend who cheated on me but I don’t label all lesbians as cheaters.
It’s okay, I’m used to hearing people saying that. Gay people think the same about bi people. I just hope that changes one day.@barmj I'm not biphobic or anyone phobic and I certainly don't believe being bi increases the propensity of cheating- cheating is to do with the person and I have been cheated on by heterosexual men, like most people have. I've known serial cheaters and it's nothing to do with their sexuality. However, if my man had slept with men I wouldn't like it. I can't explain why but I just wouldn't. And that's fine, we all like what we like
But there are probably loads of women who wouldn't care about sleeping with bi men? Ultimately not everyone is going to like everyone but there will be many that do.It’s okay, I’m used to hearing people saying that. Gay people think the same about bi people. I just hope that changes one day.
I brought it up because it’s implied almost every time, I hear it all the time. Bi people are confused, greedy, whores, cheaters, pretend to be straight, etc. It’s disheartening tbhDo you also think bi people are greedy, cheating sluts too?
Yes that's not fair, as someone mentioned above, it's to do with a person not their sexual orientation. If you're an asshole you're an asshole, no matter what gender you prefer@Mamacita
I brought it up because it’s implied almost every time, I hear it all the time. Bi people are confused, greedy, whores, cheaters, pretend to be straight, etc. It’s disheartening tbh
I get where you're coming from with this and understand why you drew the conclusions you did because bi-stigma/bi-erasure is a very real thing. However, I think scrutinising anyone's decisions about who they choose to sleep with or not is risky business. Ultimately even if someone's decision is rooted in prejudice or something - people who only sleep with their own race/another race, people who only sleep with the opposite/same sex - no means no and that's the end of it. I'm not really sure what anyone stands to gain from debating those choices because I'm afraid in that instance your right to bodily autonomy has to trump whatever prejudices might be underlying those choices, the alternative is just too sinister (as we are starting to see with whole 'gay men who won't sleep with transmen are transphobic' thing).Sure, no one can and should not force you to sleep with someone you don’t want but you got to acknowledge that you are being prejudiced in your thinking. Insecure because being bi automatically means they will cheat on you?
yeah, I get that completely. People should be able to have their personal preference, as long as it doesn’t deny other people’s rights, like gay people should be able to live without fear and stuff. The thing is, you don’t normally tell someone you just met your sexual history, do you? If I meet someone, I have to make it clear that I’m bi because otherwise we’d like each other but they get grossed out when they find out, and I’m made out to be the bad person and being secretive but dude, I’m just vibing. I’m not being nefarious or anythingYes that's not fair, as someone mentioned above, it's to do with a person not their sexual orientation. If you're an asshole you're an asshole, no matter what gender you preferbut yeah it's also a bit disheartening to be accused of being bi, homophobic, or transphobic, just because of your personal preference
It is about gender.what are you talking about? I’m rly fed up of people thinking bi people are pretending to be straight. Do you also think bi people are greedy, cheating sluts too? I can’t believe people still believe this shit in this day and age.
I thought this was a thread about gender, not shitting on people who dare to be attracted to both men and women.
Stop screeching about biphobia. You are proving my point.@Mamacita, OP also said this:
Like, what the fuck? Many straight men have sex without protection and they also cheat but sure, let’s focus on bi men. What do they think is going to happen if they have sex with a bi man? You can be straight and be with a bi man. His sexuality doesn’t change your sexuality??? Also, straight people get STDs and HIV too. They lie about their sexual history too, whether they’ve been tested, etc. But nah, OP is being blatant with their biphobia.
Hmm, nope. That’s what everyone should be doing, regardless of their sexuality. It’s just common sense. Especially if you fall in a long term relationship and want to forgo condoms/protection. You just don’t want to sleep with a man who previously slept with men in the past because, what? Because it’s gross? Did you know that straight guys enjoy anal stuff too?I’m sure you’d also be screeching “biphobia” if a woman dared to request an MSM partner have an STI screening.
Exactly. When it comes to dating and relationships you’re allowed to have pretty much what ever boundaries you like as far as I’m concerned and if the other person doesn’t like it then that just means you’re not a good match and aren’t meant to be. Much like how some people don’t like to date outside of their race or how some people prefer to only date taller/shorter people, or only people who are slim etc etc, it’s a personal preference and not exactly something that’s going to change by people going “you’re wrong to be attracted to x but not y” it is what it is really, can’t really force people to date people they don’t really want to date so... Only really affects the individual and any potential dates.@barmj I'm not biphobic or anyone phobic and I certainly don't believe being bi increases the propensity of cheating- cheating is to do with the person and I have been cheated on by heterosexual men, like most people have. I've known serial cheaters and it's nothing to do with their sexuality. However, if my man had slept with men I wouldn't like it. I can't explain why but I just wouldn't. And that's fine, we all like what we like
MSM are not necessarily Bi or gay. That is why the term MSM is used. It is not about orientation or inclination, sometimes it is out of necessity. There are men who have sex with men for financial reasons, social/cultural reasons, because of circumstances like being in prison or other all male environments, just to experiment or while under the influence of a substance. I have a friend whose boyfriend was in prison for a decade - while he was there he had sex with men despite being straight and he told her, she didn't care and it works for them.Hmm, nope. That’s what everyone should be doing, regardless of their sexuality. It’s just common sense. Especially if you fall in a long term relationship and want to forgo condoms/protection. You just don’t want to sleep with a man who previously slept with men in the past because, what? Because it’s gross? Did you know that straight guys enjoy anal stuff too?
Anyway, you should be asking for full transparency with straight men before you sleep with them. But you just assume bi men are riddled with diseases and incapable of using protection. It’s usually straight men who kick up a fuss when they’re asked to get tested and to wear condoms. They’re such pissbabies about it and yet your focus is on bi men.
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