Gender Discussion #9

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I see The Open Uni is getting cancelled on Twitter for creating a gender critical research network.
 
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Swirling a skirt around, is that what women are meant to do?? I must be a man 🙄
Apparently some TERFS online said women shouldn’t swirl their skirt, that’s not what they do. But every woman I know who owns a floaty skirt usually does a little twirl at some point during the day because it’s a fun thing to do and feels nice.
 
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I think it was called Hot Girls.

Here is a quote from the article. Infuriating

I’m part of a wonderful Facebook group of older women celebrating confidence in our “hot girl years”, AKA the menopause. Trans women are not only welcome, they are cherished — we have all learned from their stories and world class ability to accessorise.

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/...ocial&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1623844760-1

World class ability to accessorise? Billions of women know how to dress and present themselves, funnily enough. Is this what we've been reduced to?!
I've spent some time trying to work out whether this is more offensive to women or transwomen, I think it possibly just really equal opportunity reductive to both? I mean, if you want to be in a 'hot girls' menopause facebook group to giggle and swap accessory tips, fill your boots but I'll be right over here in the real world planning the downfall of capitalism/smashing of the patriarchy same as I do every day.
 
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Whether it's something some women do or not is kind of irrelevant IMO- TiMs can swirl their skirts to their hearts content but it doesnt make them women

I've spent some time trying to work out whether this is more offensive to women or transwomen, I think it possibly just really equal opportunity reductive to both? I mean, if you want to be in a 'hot girls' menopause facebook group to giggle and swap accessory tips, fill your boots but I'll be right over here in the real world planning the downfall of capitalism/smashing of the patriarchy same as I do every day.
I really despise this infantilising stuff I've seen a lot over the last while about how TiMs seemingly 'woman' better than real women. Throw it into a menopause Facebook group and it's even more infuriating
 
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Apparently some TERFS online said women shouldn’t swirl their skirt, that’s not what they do. But every woman I know who owns a floaty skirt usually does a little twirl at some point during the day because it’s a fun thing to do and feels nice.
I wear a lot of floaty skirts and I only swirl it if I'm quite drunk or dancing or ideally drunk dancing 💃
 
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As someone who is currently having a period from hell after 7 months with no period and WFH as a result today, get in the bin men who PRETEND to have periods. This tit is beyond absurd.
 
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DP is an ally for women's rights
HAHAHA!!! Is he serious! I almost ruptured my spleen from laughing so much. He got a woman arrested over a ribbon.
An effing r i b b o n.


Stacey Dooley was ‘let go’ from her presenting job on the BBC because she starred in an advert for a hair dye company. How is she fired by Nick Knowles (shreddies) and Gary Linekar (walkers) allowed to keep their jobs?
 
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I agree. I wholeheartedly support any campaign for transwomen, transmen and NB people to have their own separate spaces/facilities/groups etc. etc. etc. I think everyone, no matter how independent, sometimes needs a supportive space with their 'tribe' - which is why women need women-only spaces and places too.
I guarantee you the majority of TW will not use then as they want to be in women's spaces. They don't want to be perceived as trans even if they are not castrated and feature make pattern baldness and a beard . They demand to be seen as women, hence we "cis". That is the problem

There is one transitioning at work. I don't know him but I have heard he says things like " when I was a little girl.." why does no one challenge him?
 
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There is one transitioning at work. I don't know him but I have heard he says things like " when I was a little girl.." why does no one challenge him
I just find this creepy

I understand they want to be seen as women and therefore would want to say when I was a girl as opposed to "outing" themselves by saying "when I was a little boy"

But why couldn't they just say when I was growing up??

It just seems a bit fetish-y to me
 
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hate Caitlin Moran too, cannot believe her and the various blue ticker's defending india knight and ignoring her husbands 's crimes. just vile.
she has admitted to having botox, wouldn't surprise me if she has done other things
India Knight who stands by a paedophile. How any woman can defend her is beyond me.

Caitlin Moran can get in the bin as well.
 
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I just find this creepy

I understand they want to be seen as women and therefore would want to say when I was a girl as opposed to "outing" themselves.

But why couldn't they just say when I was growing up??

It just seems a bit fetish-y to me
I don't think I've ever said " when I was a little girl" we tend to say " when I was little". Someone who knows him says he is creepy and very odd and married and the wife supports him.
 
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I’ve seen people getting “cancelled” for not using the “new” pride flag with the trans colours cutting across it. Sorry but how can a flag cause so much upset? The rainbow flag already represented trans people, it’s like they constantly are wanting to trample all over everyone else to get to the top…plus there is already a trans flag.

I’m more so confused over the fact that clearly it has always been the argument and acceptance that sexuality is not the same as gender identity…so why would you want something that’s about gender being bundled with something about sexuality. Surely they are gonna be more upset that people are gonna think they’re the “same” as people who aren’t straight.

The mind boggles.
 
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I agree. I wholeheartedly support any campaign for transwomen, transmen and NB people to have their own separate spaces/facilities/groups etc. etc. etc. I think everyone, no matter how independent, sometimes needs a supportive space with their 'tribe' - which is why women need women-only spaces and places too.
Yes, agree. I don't know all the people on this list, but Munroe Bergdorf strikes me as someone we used to refer to as transsexual rather than transgender. There are people who have gender dysphoria and for those people transitioning seems to be a legitimate treatment. I support anyone getting help for a mental or physical health issue without exception. Sadly there now seem to be many people who define transgender as something very different to transsexual. Theirs is a movement I cannot support.

And non-binary is something I just don't understand. I know, I know, I should just accept without having to understand, but given that I have never felt like a woman, I simply am a woman, I can't see how anyone can feel male, female or both.

It once again comes down to material reality vs feelings.
 
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You shouldn't feel bad for not accepting it without understanding. Non binary is a load of rit and societies uncritical acceptance of it will mean that many teenage girls etc will have changed their bodies irreversibly. All because of a social contagion that no one can even define

Speaking of non binary I happened upon the Demi Lovato thread. Bar one of two people referring to her as 'they', most of the posters seemed to think it was a load of nonsense. And I didn't see any 'you're a transphobic bigot' type responses. I feel like the awakening is slowly happening
 
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I’ve seen people getting “cancelled” for not using the “new” pride flag with the trans colours cutting across it. Sorry but how can a flag cause so much upset?
Using the right symbols and words at all times is such a clear sign of cultish behaviour. Why is the 'correct' flag so important? Why are 'correct' pronouns so important? Why is the 'correct' language so important? It truly is brainwashing and so much of it is performative.
 
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