Gender Discussion #78

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Ooh he’s finally clocked on and backtracking now, saying it’s low level risk

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In this particular case, re womens changing rooms I do agree.

However I do think that maybe someone who transitioned 30 years ago, who has a GRC, and has chosen to undergo surgery, and lives thier life quietly and unassumingly as a woman, or as a man, is perhaps in a slightly different position to someone who has jumped on a bandwagon literally a couple of years ago!

I think its also about respect for women, and acknowledging that women have a right to be scared/aware of men and their own personal security around men, and that women have a right to have separate spaces.
Dr Upton may have put on a dress and lipstick, but he isnt behaving like a woman at all. He hasnt got a clue about acting feminine! I cant think of many women I know who would deliberately put themselves into a position like this knowing that their actions will make other women uncomfortable and feel distressed.
We did have a poster on here a few years back, like that- made a few salient points that a lot of posters agreed with on here , re issues that we've all raised, but they ended up bowing out because ( I think) they could see the damage coming in Society and all they wanted to do was to live quietly as they wanted to without treading on Women's toes.
Good luck to the poster, anyway ; wherever they are , today...... x
 
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To be honest, I have no issue with fetishes & kinks, as long as it's between consenting adults & kept private. The problem with TRAs is they expect all other people to go along with it in public so therefore it isn't mutually consensual, often involves minors and it's not kept private.
Yes- exactly this. It's a big problem I have with it.
Between consenting adults, in private - and mutually agreeable- that's that.
 
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What a horrible, disingenuous man he is. He really thought he'd get away with only giving half a story and everyone would clap and cheer how stunning and brave he is.
I bet he has a shelf full of 'participation trophies.
He's soon had the rug pulled from under him.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bleep. 😎😎
 
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Naomi was right, he really is making this tit up on the spot to suit himself.
He reminds me of an old friend who has diagnosed Narcissistic PD.
The same weasel words and acting like he didn't do or say something. Even when evidence was presented that he was wrong my friend would just keep repeating that he was right. It's exhausting to be part of.
 
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Impossible to tell tone completely but my GOD, he seems to come out with a haughty remark every few minutes. Wanker.
 
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She’s really nailing him down on this and he is struggling to wriggle his male a out of it.

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I think Upton needs a longer bus at the rate he's throwing colleagues/employer under
 
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Petulant again. “Presumably. Don’t have control over AWs emails”. He will have it in his frigging bundle.

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Judge is annoying me today. The respondents have repeatedly moved the goalposts with missing paperwork. Yet judge says he’s given NC great deal of latitude?!
 
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I can only imagine how Naomi is going to shred the NHS staff when she gets to them. I bet they are secretly watching and shitting themselves!
 
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So do I have this right? Upton apparently witnessed a patient safety breach from Peggie but said nothing until the Xmas Eve incident when she confronted him in the changing room and said his presence was inappropriate/made her uncomfortable?

After that he was up until the early hours of Xmas morning emailing colleagues and the BMA? And only then did he raise the alleged safety breach?

Well that’s all very convenient isn’t it?

Not to mention the convenience of editing the minutes of a meeting after the recording had already been deleted so nothing could be verified.
 
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You'd think if his perceived treatment by Sandie was so bad he'd have his tit together with his times and places.
It's almost like he's an entitled man-baby and was expecting all and sundry to praise him for turning up.

This article claims that Sandie's go fund me raised twice the amount that whatshisface managed.
 
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Full thread for the second half of this morning’s session.

 
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You'd think if his perceived treatment by Sandie was so bad he'd have his tit together with his times and places.
It's almost like he's an entitled man-baby and was expecting all and sundry to praise him for turning up.

This article claims that Sandie's go fund me raised twice the amount that whatshisface managed.
Quite substantially more currently.

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It's frustrating that wins seem to have to come from believing in GC views isn't it? we should be able to say 'he's a bleeping man' and leave it at that. Hopefully, the more of these wins then legal clarification will come.
 
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It's almost like he's an entitled man-baby and was expecting all and sundry to praise him for turning up.
Exactly.

(It is a completely different case, in every way obviously, but it reminds me a little of the Wagatha Christie case as it became known, where Rebekah Vardy obviously didn't think any further than having her day in court, showing off her outfits, as opposed to actually having to back up her accusations with evidence.)
 
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Exactly.

(It is a completely different case, in every way obviously, but it reminds me a little of the Wagatha Christie case as it became known, where Rebekah Vardy obviously didn't think any further than having her day in court, showing off her outfits, as opposed to actually having to back up her accusations with evidence.)
Totally, also thinking you're the smartest person in the room is always going to end in tears.
 
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