Gender Discussion #78

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This would be comical if it didn’t have such severe consequences for women

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hi Theo 👋🏻
 
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bluntly, if it was a white christian woman or other religion they probably wouldn’t care as much. Being Muslim seems to carry more clout when asking for single sex care and is always the example. Many Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Mormon women all have modesty tenants.
i agree, which is why i used a muslim woman in my hypothetical example. religion shouldn't come into it, but i wonder if a muslim nurse or doctor was like: my beliefs, my family, my husband etc won't allow me to change clothes in front of a man, whether the NHS would suspend her for saying Upton was a man or whether they'd be in a quandary about who's rights they want to support.
White folk are at the bottom of the pile tbh. i know that makes me sound like a paranoid Reformer - i'm not, for the record, but it's how it seems.
 
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I've just got home so got plenty catching up to do. I donated to Sandie's CF before I went to bed last night, it stood at a few hundred pounds, happy to see it is now over £6000, supporters have swelled too!
An hour and a half later and it's over £8000!
 
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The idea that it's "disrespectful" to call a man a man needs to be dissected and called out for what it is. Demanding, aggressive men calling women disrespectful for not participating in their self image.

No man has ever been materially disadvantaged by a woman by being referred to as male in a society that actively oppresses women.

What we're really talking about is the good old fashioned misogynist idea that when a man says "jump", women should say "how high" and to do anything but obey is heretical.

duck off.
 
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i agree, which is why i used a muslim woman in my hypothetical example. religion shouldn't come into it, but i wonder if a muslim nurse or doctor was like: my beliefs, my family, my husband etc won't allow me to change clothes in front of a man, whether the NHS would suspend her for saying Upton was a man or whether they'd be in a quandary about who's rights they want to support.
White folk are at the bottom of the pile tbh. i know that makes me sound like a paranoid Reformer - i'm not, for the record, but it's how it seems.
The reason Muslim women's need for single sex spaces is defended by all is that it comes from submission to Muslim men and their mad ideas about female modesty. There would be no quandary at all, because it is the men who are deferred to with this argument, not the women.
 
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I kept thinking of SP last night. Being suspended from your job is a very serious matter. It's usually for something like assault/ fraud/ etc etc. And here you have a woman like many of us on here, I'm sure who was working hard in her chosen profession, for many years. Like all of us, I am sure there were good days and bad.

I am trying to imagine how she felt on being informed she was being suspended basically because of a man's hurty feelings. It's almost unimaginable and yet it did happen.

I am hoping that whoever has to account for taking that decision is sweating right now at the thought of taking the stand to answer NC's questions.
 
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It looks like the were originally going to just keep them on separate shifts but he then reported/invented Px safety complaint as he still wasn’t happy? Am I reading this right? So she wasn’t suspended for CR incident?

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God NC is incredible. She has him nailed to the wall. I wish I could see him, I bet he’s absolutely furious and struggling to contain it.

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The 28/12 plaster room incident has passed me by! Has anyone else missed this?
 
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I'm thinking some on DU's are teasing, especially the £1 ones with the donator being "biggirlpants"
i think it's that they're jobless incels with no money but want to support people with labels!
 
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If NHS Fife has a dignity and respect at work policy, that could account for his frequent use of 'respect', possibly trying to make some kind of point. There does not appear to be a lot of respect from him towards any of the colleagues he has named so far, so it feels like a bit of a zero sum approach, if that's what he's driving at.
 
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