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I’m in a parent group with a load of other mums from my sons old special school. One of the mums I’m friends with has a daughter who has just moved over to the SEN part of a nearby college. Today she handed her mum this letter. She has severe learning difficulties and a chromosome condition, has no concept of gender and has obviously been coached into writing and printing it as she lacks the capacity to do it independently.
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I’m in a parent group with a load of other mums from my sons old special school. One of the mums I’m friends with has a daughter who has just moved over to the SEN part of a nearby college. Today she handed her mum this letter. She has severe learning difficulties and a chromosome condition, has no concept of gender and has obviously been coached into writing and printing it as she lacks the capacity to do it independently.
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That’s bloody terrifying as a parent of a gender non-conforming child with ASD and a language disorder. I’d be absolutely livid! And the worst thing is, we’re told once they turn 16, they can make their own decisions even if we parents know it’s not in their best interests or they lack insight.
 
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Isn't it strange how people say LGBTQ without thinking about the 'queer' I don't think people many would use that word to describe a gay person. I would never use it as it used to be a slur. And if the G is already in there then why do they need the Q? They're the same, no?
 
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Isn't it strange how people say LGBTQ without thinking about the 'queer' I don't think people many would use that word to describe a gay person. I would never use it as it used to be a slur. And if the G is already in there then why do they need the Q? They're the same, no?
The Q is there to represent anyone who wants to dye their hair blue and feel a bit special even if they are a heterosexual imo :LOL:
 
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That makes me so sad. A five year old possibly being sent to therapy for wanting something pink. Jesus wept.
It might sound extreme to some but to me that's tantamount to child abuse. That sort of thing is going to have lifelong implications. He'd probably need therapy as an adult to unpick all of that and why his parents made such a poor decision on his behalf.
 
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I’m in a parent group with a load of other mums from my sons old special school. One of the mums I’m friends with has a daughter who has just moved over to the SEN part of a nearby college. Today she handed her mum this letter. She has severe learning difficulties and a chromosome condition, has no concept of gender and has obviously been coached into writing and printing it as she lacks the capacity to do it independently.
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Who the duck has groomed a girl with LD into believing she’s non-binary? And how? I’m wondering whether this has come up in a PSHE type lesson (assuming that’s on the curriculum in SEN schools?)

It’s bad enough that teachers collude with transing kids in any school, but for someone with learning difficulties, that’s appalling.
 
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The Q is there to represent anyone who wants to dye their hair blue and feel a bit special even if they are a heterosexual imo :LOL:
also I never understand why some places or organisations say “LGBTI” - I meaning intersex. Intersex isn’t a bleeping sexuality. You might as well have LGBTMF for male and female lmao ??? And don’t get me started on this stupid bleeping flag. What’s wrong with the normal rainbow one.
 

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I’m in a parent group with a load of other mums from my sons old special school. One of the mums I’m friends with has a daughter who has just moved over to the SEN part of a nearby college. Today she handed her mum this letter. She has severe learning difficulties and a chromosome condition, has no concept of gender and has obviously been coached into writing and printing it as she lacks the capacity to do it independently.
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An easy target for these enablers. How they must be rubbing their hands with glee.



bleeps.
 
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Who the duck has groomed a girl with LD into believing she’s non-binary? And how? I’m wondering whether this has come up in a PSHE type lesson (assuming that’s on the curriculum in SEN schools?)

It’s bad enough that teachers collude with transing kids in any school, but for someone with learning difficulties, that’s appalling.
I know this isn’t really the point but that makes me feel sad because it’s so impersonal as well. Like saying “I’m doing some work with them” or “they like music time” or whatever just seems dehumanising in some way, especially when talking about someone who lacks the capacity to understand pronouns.
 
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also I never understand why some places or organisations say “LGBTI” - I meaning intersex. Intersex isn’t a bleeping sexuality. You might as well have LGBTMF for male and female lmao ??? And don’t get me started on this stupid bleeping flag. What’s wrong with the normal rainbow one.
Isn't this the one that is trademarked so any companies have to pay to use?

The design is a right dog's dinner though! More bits get added, like like it's been designed by committee
 
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I mean I don't want to advocate for vigilante justice... But it would be good for this guy to no longer be able to hurt anyone
It's just violence against women, isn't it? Those children being threatened are just innocent girls who happen to believe in God. Why do men think that that's an okay reason to murder them? I don't understand.
 
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Genuinely curious as to why you're purposefully misgendering Mae? Their pronouns are they/them. It's basic respect.

You say that they: "occupies cultural space / space in the perception of others as a les without being one (which annoys me)". Firstly, their sexuality has nothing to do with you. Secondly, Mae has no control over how others perceived them, nor should they care. Maybe get annoyed about things that actually concern you?

Pronouns have an original function and its the only way they have any function.they provide context,clarity and help to enforce safety protocols too

you are in a camp of some hundreds of millions campaigning to absolutely obliterate their function & make them compelled speech that uselessly duplicates part of the job of a first name.

you cannot be surprised that given the major contextual information biological sex gives to human society there are counter hundreds of millions.. actually billions globally who use pronouns for their only functional application, to indicate sex for which "Gender" was once a helpful synonym that distinguished the biological categories from the act of intercourse.

if you don't afford Rachel Dolezal status as an African American you should really reconsider using a neutral plural for Mae
 
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you cannot be surprised that given the major contextual information biological sex gives to human society there are counter hundreds of millions.. actually billions globally who use pronouns for their only functional application, to indicate sex for which "Gender" was once a helpful synonym that distinguished the biological categories from the act of intercourse.
I don't object at all to your meaning here but think you've written something incredibly dense and quite difficult to understand 😂
 
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I’m in a parent group with a load of other mums from my sons old special school. One of the mums I’m friends with has a daughter who has just moved over to the SEN part of a nearby college. Today she handed her mum this letter. She has severe learning difficulties and a chromosome condition, has no concept of gender and has obviously been coached into writing and printing it as she lacks the capacity to do it independently.
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Oh my bleeping god. I'd go ballistic. Absolutely ridiculous. I'd have to go down there and inform her that I'll be continuing to tell my child she's female and ANY negative reaction from HER towards my child for calling her by female pronouns will have severe consequences for HER. Imagine having these immature little ducks teaching your child.

In fact I'd be demanding a move from her class.
 
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