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Ok a rant incoming. Last night I got my period (you know, like women do…) & the first night is always rough. You don’t need details but iykyk. Anyway, this morning when I was getting ready for the day, I thought about how there will be some bleeping idiots in this world, tucking their rooster & balls into their frilly snag “bend my fool backwards” pants and slipping on a pantyliner and claiming to have had an experience just like mine. And honestly it made me rage for so long I wanted to punch something
Yes! It’s not just periods for me. I don’t know if any of you get “middle pain” (excruciating pain when the follicle bursts and you ovulate). I hope you don’t but I sometimes do and it’s no joke. Puts me to bed sometimes it’s so bad. And with it you get that irrational wistful broody feeling of “that could’ve been a baby if I was ttc” etc. It’s something you have to live to understand. Sorry to be crass but sticking on a pantyliner and probably wanking into a sock is just not the same level of emotional exhaustion.
 
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Update on Etsy. They haven’t responded to my reports but I can no longer see the ‘punch terfs’ badge on sale anymore. Hopefully they came to their senses. There are still other ones for sale though, with pictures of guns and knives. Yep. Thanks Etsy for not giving AF about VAWG.
After seeing your original post about this, I also reported a couple of times on the Etsy app but have heard nothing back. Now Etsy helpfully keeps showing me rainbow badges, pronoun pins and trans flags and there is no way to delete these from the viewing history 😂
 
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I had the ‘pleasure’ of attending a talk by ‘Clara’ in a past job. All the handmaidens after talking about how good ‘she’ had been etc. I just kept quiet but knew it probably wasn’t the place for me! He mentioned how once he came out as trans, (he was soooo scared to!!) everyone was really great and found the right toilets for him. The women’s toilets in science related buildings aren’t always on the right floor etc… how about pissing off to the correct one then? The mens? Argh.
 
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I wish I hadn't googled Sarah Keyworth. People congratulating her fir being hervtrue , authentic self by mutilating and disfiguring her body. These people are not " born in the wrong body". They are wrong in the head and need significant therapy FFS.
I was quite upset when I saw her post about having had a non-essential double mastectomy on Instagram.

Always found her quite funny and sharp - but now I can’t see past the fact she’s fallen into the ‘authentic self’ trap with surgery and can’t accept the fact she’s a les with no need to mutilate her body in this way.

She could have carried on with androgynous short hair, sharp clothes and no one would really have cared - but she’s wrecked her body for good with this and she’ll have young, impressionable people looking at her pics and thinking it all looks so cool and easy to do when it’s anything but.

The comments on her post are all the usual ‘stunning and brave’ mob - like she’s the new messiah because she’s cut her body up in the name of being real. In truth, a really good caring therapist would have helped her get to the bottom of her identity issues and steered her away from gender affirmative care. It’s anything but.

This has made me more angry than I thought - apologies for the rant. 😳
 
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I had the ‘pleasure’ of attending a talk by ‘Clara’ in a past job. All the handmaidens after talking about how good ‘she’ had been etc. I just kept quiet but knew it probably wasn’t the place for me! He mentioned how once he came out as trans, (he was soooo scared to!!) everyone was really great and found the right toilets for him. The women’s toilets in science related buildings aren’t always on the right floor etc… how about pissing off to the correct one then? The mens? Argh.
Wow typical AGP / narc traits on display for everyone to see then! I have never been at a presentation where a woman speaker felt the need to make a thing about about how helpful people are in pointing out the women’s toilets and moaning about what floor they’re on!
 
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I was quite upset when I saw her post about having had a non-essential double mastectomy on Instagram.

Always found her quite funny and sharp - but now I can’t see past the fact she’s fallen into the ‘authentic self’ trap with surgery and can’t accept the fact she’s a les with no need to mutilate her body in this way.

She could have carried on with androgynous short hair, sharp clothes and no one would really have cared - but she’s wrecked her body for good with this and she’ll have young, impressionable people looking at her pics and thinking it all looks so cool and easy to do when it’s anything but.

The comments on her post are all the usual ‘stunning and brave’ mob - like she’s the new messiah because she’s cut her body up in the name of being real. In truth, a really good caring therapist would have helped her get to the bottom of her identity issues and steered her away from gender affirmative care. It’s anything but.

This has made me more angry than I thought - apologies for the rant. 😳
I feel really sad for the young women who mutilate their bodies in this way. And to what end? She can waffle on about being "non-binary" all she likes, but she's obviously a les. I don't know hoardes of lesbians, but the ones that I do know, love women and women's bodies...including their breasts.
Double masectomy is horrifying surgery for cancer sufferers, why on earth are healthy young women doing this to themselves? What has this cult done to the mental health of these women? I find it absolutely revolting that women are prepared to do this in order to "become the person that they are meant to be"...who is that then? A mentally ill victim, preyed on by cosmetic surgeons and queer theorists? 😡😡😡
 
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I genuinely feel my authentic self is me but 20 years ago. How do get that affirmed then? What utter balls.
 
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After seeing your original post about this, I also reported a couple of times on the Etsy app but have heard nothing back. Now Etsy helpfully keeps showing me rainbow badges, pronoun pins and trans flags and there is no way to delete these from the viewing history 😂
Same!! 😩😩 I have clicked on a million pics of photo frames and other bits and bobs so it’s not at the top of my suggested items. It’s the last thing I’m interested in buying!!
 
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Are you not allowed to be non binary and have bits? Loads of men have man boobs I mean 🤷‍♀️ give it a few years and she’ll have a baby and then do the rounds about how no one told her she wouldn’t be able to breastfeed because she cut off her healthy breast tissue.

Genuinely, if I said I wanted bariatric surgery as an anorexic, would my delusion be validated? What if I said I identity as a skinny woman, rather than a large one? It’s madness.
 
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I like(d) Drag when it was stuff like Lily Savage, fool Emery and Danny LaRue - men dressed as women but not pretending to be women.

But things are changing. I watch drag race uk and mostly do enjoy it. But there is far too much emphasis placed on looks and not enough on comedic talent. And comedy is the basis of UK drag.

But the thing you need to remember is that this mob think what they're doing is groundbreaking, its not!!!.

I mean, one of the highest rated comedies on the BBC is a drag show -.Mrs Browns Boys!!!

My mum (aged 87) used to watch a drag act called Old Mother Riley - he was married to his sidekick Kitty. And I grew up watching Wee Jimmy Krankie, a woman dressed as a wee boy. She's also married to her sidekick Ian..

Also when you watch drag race uk, it's becoming obvious that drag is refuge for failed actors - can't make it as an actor, put a frock on and call yourself a drag queen.

For me, Lawrence Chaney is the breakout star from.drag race uk - from what I've seen of lawrence, he's a he and what he really wants is Paul O"Grady's career.
Also Stanley Baxter, Rikki Fulton & Jack Milroy (of Francie & Josie fame), none used drag in a derogatory/mocking form towards women.
 
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I was quite upset when I saw her post about having had a non-essential double mastectomy on Instagram.

Always found her quite funny and sharp - but now I can’t see past the fact she’s fallen into the ‘authentic self’ trap with surgery and can’t accept the fact she’s a les with no need to mutilate her body in this way.

She could have carried on with androgynous short hair, sharp clothes and no one would really have cared - but she’s wrecked her body for good with this and she’ll have young, impressionable people looking at her pics and thinking it all looks so cool and easy to do when it’s anything but.

The comments on her post are all the usual ‘stunning and brave’ mob - like she’s the new messiah because she’s cut her body up in the name of being real. In truth, a really good caring therapist would have helped her get to the bottom of her identity issues and steered her away from gender affirmative care. It’s anything but.

This has made me more angry than I thought - apologies for the rant. 😳
BIB You’ve hit the nail on the head, it’s self-mutilation, self-harm. I am astounded that there are surgeons that will do this for people and it’s ok. It’s unnecessary and at best cosmetic (although the results are not pretty). It’s not going to change the fact she’s mentally unwell. Where do we draw the line then? Years ago I nursed a patient who had been sectioned for his own safety because he had delusions his eyes were evil and wanted to destroy them. Would one of these surgeons perform an enucleation for him? He sure as tit was in more mental distress than these women, and would have felt relieved to have it done. He’d attempted suicide because of the feelings he had. Rather than mutilate and blind him, the doctors treated his psychiatric problems. It wasn’t a quick fix like chopping off a pair of boobs but it was what we do for someone with harmful mental delusions- we protect and help them, not encourage them and make a profit from their distress. My mind boggles at the ethics (or lack thereof) involved here.
 
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Yes! It’s not just periods for me. I don’t know if any of you get “middle pain” (excruciating pain when the follicle bursts and you ovulate). I hope you don’t but I sometimes do and it’s no joke. Puts me to bed sometimes it’s so bad. And with it you get that irrational wistful broody feeling of “that could’ve been a baby if I was ttc” etc. It’s something you have to live to understand. Sorry to be crass but sticking on a pantyliner and probably wanking into a sock is just not the same level of emotional exhaustion.
Thank you for posting about this. I’ve had awful “middle pain” for many years now and this is the first time I’ve heard someone else mention it. At times I’ve thought I was going mad or had cancer or something.
 
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Are you not allowed to be non binary and have bits?
I’m glad you’ve mentioned this. Because the answer is no.

It’s funny how NB men seem to do little more than wear a bit of nail polish when it suits them, but NB women show their allegiance to the cult by cutting their breasts off.
 
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BIB You’ve hit the nail on the head, it’s self-mutilation, self-harm. I am astounded that there are surgeons that will do this for people and it’s ok. It’s unnecessary and at best cosmetic (although the results are not pretty). It’s not going to change the fact she’s mentally unwell. Where do we draw the line then? Years ago I nursed a patient who had been sectioned for his own safety because he had delusions his eyes were evil and wanted to destroy them. Would one of these surgeons perform an enucleation for him? He sure as tit was in more mental distress than these women, and would have felt relieved to have it done. He’d attempted suicide because of the feelings he had. Rather than mutilate and blind him, the doctors treated his psychiatric problems. It wasn’t a quick fix like chopping off a pair of boobs but it was what we do for someone with harmful mental delusions- we protect and help them, not encourage them and make a profit from their distress. My mind boggles at the ethics (or lack thereof) involved here.
Thank you! This is such a thoughtful response. It got me thinking a bit about my ex partner (always a bad idea…) but I’ve mentioned before, he was an AGP, self identified as trans but also had anorexia. NOW. They would never ever affirm his eating disorder - it was all about him putting weight on and beating that demon…he had all sorts of problems with needing in patient treatment and iron transfusions, etc - however, the gender stuff - was affirmed all the way, the cross dressing, the wearing fake breasts - the fetish, all of it. I even once had his psychiatrist on the phone to me telling me I had to prop him up and allow it… make it make sense!
 
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I found this and thought it was worth posting because we've become so used to getting insulted these days.
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So, another day, and another insult to women by the BBC. They have opened up a training course they've set up to increase the number of female camera operators to 'females (and those identifying as female':


If they are seriously interested in increasing the number of women who are camera operators, then the course should be limited to women and not include men who say that they are women. I'm seriously beyond being tired of this crap.
 
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This endometriosis charity has employed a middle aged transwoman as its CEO. Steph, the transwoman in question, protested FiLiA, a women’s conference, and also has had a big go at Transwidows.

It feels like they’re trolling women. Steph hates us.
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This endometriosis charity has employed a middle aged transwoman as its CEO. Steph, the transwoman in question, protested FiLiA, a women’s conference, and also has had a big go at Transwidows.

It feels like they’re trolling women. Steph hates us.
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What an absolute f’king joke. An insult to all women who suffer from this disabling and painful condition.
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lol at the update! Still a joke though!
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