Gender Discussion #50

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Haven't bothered with trans sub reddits, but my god the "detrans" one is eye opening! Lots of truly distraught young people coming to terms with self inflicted mutilation. The worst thing is that many "detrans" people are now stuck in limbo because the changes made are permanent, even if they are not surgical. Lots of sadness about voices, body hair, breasts and receding hairlines.

And the awful realisation that actually who in the population will be sexually attracted to them now. Young women with no breasts, deep voices and facial hair, and men with curvy hips, breast tissue and erectile dysfunction.

These people are angry, at themselves, the trans echo chamber and the medical establishment.
 
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it is SO FUCKING SAD.

And frustrating, because the young women/men lamenting afterwards how they shouldn’t have been led down this path, but knowing full well had ANYONE in their lives questioned what they were doing and if it was the right choice, be dismissed as transphobia. I get that young people are being duped. I feel sorry for them. I feel angry against doctors and surgeons performing these surgeries. But my sympathy is rapidly thinning to the individuals involved in this and I know it probably shouldn’t, because this entire movement has affected a nation entirely even if not directly involved, but I am sick to death of hearing the argument “IM TRANS, NO DEBATE” turn into “WHY DIDN’T ANYBODY HELP ME?” People did want to help. You just didn’t want to listen, until it was too late.
 
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I occasionally find myself quoting some of his stand up and have to stop myself (cesar for yappy type dogs usually as there's an annoying as hell dog near me). I couldn't face watching any of his old stuff now as I'd just see him as the horrible parody of a woman he's become.
 
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From what I have seen, once a young person has had the surgery/hormones and committed to a lifetime of complications, the trans community have this “fuck them” attitude. They spend months or years building confused teens up to surgery and once it’s done they move on to the next one. Kids are getting involved in this culture to fit in and have a sense of belonging but all that goes once the job is done and then they are left to dwell on their choices alone when they have cut off anyone who dared to talk sense.
 
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Never thought of it this way but in agreement with you. Interested to what women on this thread makes of your post and agree or disagree?
I can't fucking stand Denise Welsh (she's a trans maiden) and I can't stand Eddie Izzard either
As far as I'm concerned both of them can get in the bin.
So I'll insult Denise freely if she gets mentioned again.
 
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I can't fucking stand Denise Welsh (she's a trans maiden) and I can't stand Eddie Izzard either
As far as I'm concerned both of them can get in the bin.
So I'll insult Denise freely if she gets mentioned again.

Yes, it's a bit puerile and childish to compare Eddie to Denise et al, but, tbh, it's a non issue for me with the way the world is headed with all the trans lunacy. I see it more as mocking Eddie - he is not, and never will be, anything resembling a real woman.
 
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Absolutely no way anyone is carrying a baby to full term in one of these surely?!
I think for many male recipients, he fact that they "have" a womb will be soooo validation - and if one actually manages to explain some modern-day Mengele to implant a foetus - they'll not care about what happens to that baby. Because it proves they are a LAYDEEEE!
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Never thought of it this way but in agreement with you. Interested to what women on this thread makes of your post and agree or disagree?
I don’t like women being shamed for their looks. Some people have unfortunate faces, but they shouldn’t be publicly shamed.
What Katie Price and Kerry Katina have done to their bodies is ridiculous though, and they deserve to be called out for “influencing” and promoting unnatural surgically altered bodies.
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I’m happy to report that some of my favourite rock stars are firmly in Terf territory

 
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That graphic looks nothing like Izzard, it looks like Adele which would be very flattering to Izzard's ego! Does he think that image is a true representation of what he sees when he looks in a mirror? Utterly delusional.
 
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I can't fucking stand Denise Welsh (she's a trans maiden) and I can't stand Eddie Izzard either
As far as I'm concerned both of them can get in the bin.
So I'll insult Denise freely if she gets mentioned again.
I largely agree - she was described as "attractive and talented" upthread (paraphrasing), and to that, all I can say is "perceptions may vary".

However Lizzard, despite his frocks and make-up is still obviously male, and DW, despite her over-application of make-up and unpleasant personality* is still obviously female.

However she supports this gender sh!te so deserves all she gets - and so does he.


*IMO
 
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I mean it is a fucking joke. Just goes to show they have never heard of women's sex toys. Apparently women are too delicate to wank. Remind me what year of Queen Victoria's reign we are in.
 
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This sounds like a joke, but it isn’t.
Shouldn’t the panel have decided that someone using ANY kind of slurs towards a colleague at work is unacceptable? I can’t believe the summary is “Call ‘her’ a wanker and that’s discrimination, but ‘bitch’, ‘slag’, ‘cow’ are all fine as it’s ‘affirming’?”
 
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And yet anyone can be called the c word. It’s truly bizarre, all of it. If a horrible TIM was in my way I’d call him a wanker all the live long day, just try and stop me.
 
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Vogue's blurb on Bridgers...
"Behind the scenes, she’s donating muscle samples to Loughborough University research to see, once and for all, if transgender athletes do have the “unfair advantage” some claim."
But, but, but....it has already been proven by science and medical experts that transgender athletes DO have an advantage...in speed, power and strength. Maybe Bridger should donate his tongue as a "muscle sample" since it is overworked from lies and untruths.
 
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I can't stand him.
 
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