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This man is a bleeping psychopath


Such a deranged and superficial take on what girls go through during puberty - another example of why TWAW doesn't and won't ever hold up. The whole 'I get to choose' part is sickening and strips away at womanhood. He may have long hair (which is so dry and uncared for, that it hurts my hair just looking at it) and wear make-up, but his outlook is still that of a man's. He won't ever experience crippling period pains, be shamed for it or have his bra strap pinged in front of the entire school or be leered at by sleazy men while they honk their car horn while walking home (things lots of girls and women who went through puberty wished they didn't experience, but they did). He's deluded and those enabling him are stupid. TW are not a 'chapter in the story of women' - I can't believe someone would even think that, let alone think it's smart to say online or aloud
 
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The women fawning over transwomen has got me thinking recently.

I am on quite a few Facebook groups for cross stich. Someone posted their first freehand design the other day. And to say it was tit is an understatement. It was a few words stitched with no consistency to the size or shape and a few random squares of colour all over the place. A child could do better.

Anyway, the comments full of women saying how wonderful it was!!!

I, like many, was bought up on "if you haven't got anything nice to say don't say anything at all" but that doesn't mean you HAVE to say anything at all. Instead of lying to this person saying it's fabulous etc. just scroll past without commenting!!!

Same as with TiMs if more women just said nothing to them rather than fawning all over them and saying how lovely their skirt is etc. It might make some of them crawl back in their holes and keep their fetish to themselves
All under the guise of "being kind". In reality it's horribly unkind to humiliate someone by lying to them.

Like you, I'd never want to hurt the feelings of someone who had genuinely tried - it's unecessary, but it's also unpleasant to lie.

I remember doing a management training course at work about "ruinous empathy" - actually harming people by being dishonest in the name of kindness and empathy. It's spineless and embarassing and absolutely not "nice" at all.
 
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The amount of free tit that that Dylan Mulvaney gets thrown at him is obscene. He gets gifted everything from shoes and clothing to entire crates of Barbie toys from Mattel. Barbie dolls. He’s a grown adult male.
All those companies should take a long hard look at themselves. In a society where actual real children are growing up without access to food and education let alone toys, is gifting a pointless parody of ‘girlhood’ like that empty headed creepy little wick really the best that they can do with their promotional budget?
 
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The amount of free tit that that Dylan Mulvaney gets thrown at him is obscene. He gets gifted everything from shoes and clothing to entire crates of Barbie toys from Mattel. Barbie dolls. He’s a grown adult male.
All those companies should take a long hard look at themselves. In a society where actual real children are growing up without access to food and education let alone toys, is gifting a pointless parody of ‘girlhood’ like that empty headed creepy little wick really the best that they can do with their promotional budget?
I’ve just discovered him and I’m literally in shock at the amount of child followers he has, it’s so depressing
 
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All under the guise of "being kind". In reality it's horribly unkind to humiliate someone by lying to them.

Like you, I'd never want to hurt the feelings of someone who had genuinely tried - it's unecessary, but it's also unpleasant to lie.

I remember doing a management training course at work about "ruinous empathy" - actually harming people by being dishonest in the name of kindness and empathy. It's spineless and embarassing and absolutely not "nice" at all.
Yes, this is very true. I was always taught to look for the positives and praise on that basis which is basically an honest approach for example the cross stitch example mentioned above sounds terrible and I doubt I'd comment online however if somebody I knew had done it I wouldn't tell them it was rit but say something about great they're getting enjoyment out of a new hobby which is true. If somebody asked me a specific question about the way they dressed or how they did their makeup I'd probably say it wasn't to my taste but then again I'm not really qualified to judge as I don't do all the girly stuff myself.
 
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Yes, this is very true. I was always taught to look for the positives and praise on that basis which is basically an honest approach for example the cross stitch example mentioned above sounds terrible and I doubt I'd comment online however if somebody I knew had done it I wouldn't tell them it was rit but say something about great they're getting enjoyment out of a new hobby which is true. If somebody asked me a specific question about the way they dressed or how they did their makeup I'd probably say it wasn't to my taste but then again I'm not really qualified to judge as I don't do all the girly stuff myself.
Absolutely. Saying nowt or constructive criticism delivered kindly are both way kinder than lies, but I suppose you don't get a pat on the back for being "nice" for those things.
 
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All under the guise of "being kind". In reality it's horribly unkind to humiliate someone by lying to them.

Like you, I'd never want to hurt the feelings of someone who had genuinely tried - it's unecessary, but it's also unpleasant to lie.

I remember doing a management training course at work about "ruinous empathy" - actually harming people by being dishonest in the name of kindness and empathy. It's spineless and embarassing and absolutely not "nice" at all.
It's the same as people appearing on talent shows and singing dreadfully out of tune. If you don't have the ability/talent it's better that you are told (in the nicest way possible) that you have no chance of making it as a singer. Obviously I don't agree with humiliating people but sometimes people need to be told the truth.
 
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Some more bull. These people have no idea what they are talking about.


It amazes me that TERFS don’t seem to realise that rather than being about feminism it looks like a way of returning women to a state of pre-feminism. Where women were expected to stay at home looking after children and home. Because anything else was considered abnormal for a woman. They are literally doing the work for them of the alt-rights idea of what a women is.
Also there's the idea that Allison Bailey will now be seen as unemployable but if she's lucky, maybe JK Rowling might pay her to carry her bags for her.
 
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Some people, who feel they cannot speak up at work, might find this useful ...

 
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How about people who object to paedophiles? Should they be tolerated or universally rejected and condemned?
This is what I meant earlier about everything being so polarised. Just because I didn't instantly condemn drag story reading time I'm being asked questions like that... Obviously paedophiles should be universally rejected and condemned - but that's not the same thing as this.

I accept some drag story times have been inappropriate, but I'm reserving judgement on this one unless I hear there was inappropriate content from the parents who attended, rather than those who yelled from outside to the point Police needed to be called.
 
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Glad Dylan finds it all very amusing.

Meanwhile women are ridiculed and seen as dirty for having periods. Questioned why we're going to the toilet and why we're bringing a bag with us. Humiliated by boys raiding girls' schoolbags, looking for tampons or pads. Putting up with debilitating period pain month in, month out, and being dismissed by doctors and told to put up with it. But yeah, tampons, so funny.
 
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Like I say, I just cannot agree with "it's my way or no way".


No. Do you?
No, it's one of the incidents that woke me up to how bad drag queen story time is. Teaching a young child to bend over and wiggle his or her bum at anyone in the room? Grooming. And we're seeing far too much of grooming.

I can see no reason why drag queens should be involved in childrens activities. All my kids are grown up but there's no way that I'd have let them attend an event like this.

I don't agree with 'my way or the highway' either but I do agree with protesting about things that are wrong. I don't think that is 'my way or the highway'. I think that's people telling parents to open their eyes as to whats going on. And some parents clearly need to be told.

I get really pissed off with the 'teaching children to be fabulous' crap as well. It's actually teaching children to be superficial. Theres nothing fabulous about that. It's fake. It's telling children that if they want to be 'fabulous' then make up is the way to go. What nonsense. Do you know who is fabulous? Every woman in Englands women's football. They're fabulous. JK Rowling is fabulous. Marie Curie was beyond fabulous. Fake bits and make up isn't fabulous at all. We should encourage our kids to do much more in their lives than that.
 
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No, it's one of the incidents that woke me up to how bad drag queen story time is. Teaching a young child to bend over and wiggle his or her bum at anyone in the room? Grooming. And we're seeing far too much of grooming.

I can see no reason why drag queens should be involved in childrens activities. All my kids are grown up but there's no way that I'd have let them attend an event like this.

I don't agree with 'my way or the highway' either but I do agree with protesting about things that are wrong. I don't think that is 'my way or the highway'. I think that's people telling parents to open their eyes as to whats going on. And some parents clearly need to be told.

I get really pissed off with the 'teaching children to be fabulous' crap as well. It's actually teaching children to be superficial. Theres nothing fabulous about that. It's fake. It's telling children that if they want to be 'fabulous' then make up is the way to go. What nonsense. Do you know who is fabulous? Every woman in Englands women's football. They're fabulous. JK Rowling is fabulous. Marie Curie was beyond fabulous. Fake bits and make up isn't fabulous at all. We should encourage our kids to do much more in their lives than that.
It's not the protesting I'm against per se; it's the fact they were yelling things at the parents who had chosen to take their kids to the event. That's counter productive in my opinion - they can have their views without shouting at people. I say the same things about anti abortion protestors who yell things at women going into the abortion clinics.

I hope someone who actually went can tell us what happened there. If it was nothing more than a drag queen sitting down and reading books out loud, I have no issue. If they twerked or did anything inappropriate, then I'd join in with those condemning it. I just like knowing things, rather than assuming, which is pretty much all I'm saying.
 
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All under the guise of "being kind". In reality it's horribly unkind to humiliate someone by lying to them.

Like you, I'd never want to hurt the feelings of someone who had genuinely tried - it's unecessary, but it's also unpleasant to lie.

I remember doing a management training course at work about "ruinous empathy" - actually harming people by being dishonest in the name of kindness and empathy. It's spineless and embarassing and absolutely not "nice" at all.
Constructive criticism over unconstructive praise, one will help you develop, the other leads to complacency. Be kind is ultimate in unhelpful pandering.
 
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The drag queen thing is being used as a way in to gaining access and sexualising children. Anyone who denies this is being naive or obtuse.

They're the pathfinders for what follows - queer theory (anything goes and is perfectly legitimate), furries in brightly coloured outfits and dangly roosters, paedophiles who teach children how to 'give and receive' etc. It's grooming.

Drag is vulgar and offensive womanface. Don't forget we're 'fish' to them 🤢
 
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It’s not just about whether anything inappropriate is going on at these story time sessions, it’s also about the fact that drag as a genre of humour relies on regressive, demeaning and overly sexualised stereotypes and portrayals of women - it’s the very backbone of that genre of comedy.
 
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