Gender Discussion #29

[CookieZippy]

This is absolutely sick. Child abuse. Plain and simple.

 

[DottyP]

Any of you aware of the nightmare that is Jonathan Jessica Yaniv Serenity Simpson, may be very pleased to hear that his attempt to sue Rebel Media for libel and hurty feels has failed. Not only failed, but the judge listed every fucking one of his attempts to access young girls by any means. Topless pool parties with no parents allowed, hanging about in the womens toilets and taking pictures of young girls. Asking young girls if they need help with tampons. Sexually explicit messages to young girls. The judge listed them all. And then judged that anyone taking from these situations that Yaniv Simpson might be a paedophile and or sexual pest, would be not unreasonable. And Yaniv's hurty feels don't amount to a hill of beans when he is actively a twat on social media.

So in Canada, the home of the most trans friendly everything, Yaniv failed. Maybe the world is starting to see sense?

 

[cesarea-tinajero]

Long time lurker, but just have to say I'm very grateful for the people in this thread! I used to be very 'live and let live', but recently a few people in my circle have gone down the TWAW route, and as a lesbian, I just can't believe that. I'm afraid I'll be called out if I'm honest and say that I'd never date someone who was born male, I just don't want anything to do with the whole penis thing and the way men are socialised (that you can see in trans women, whatever they say). My girlfriend and I just keep our views quiet, we just find it odd how people who push the TWAW and that we 'should' date them will never be in that situation.

Also tbh, with a lot of trans women it seems to be more a fetish of what they think women are like than what women are actually like. We're multifaceted, we're not just girly bimbos with too-short skirts and long hair.

 

[sheleg]

I can honestly say that I have never been more aware of anything in my life than bloody LGBTQI+ and non binary. Every week there seems to be something else under the stonewall umbrella to be “aware” of.

I say this as a bisexual woman who came out in 2001, and became the LGB rep at my university (no T attached in those days, and how much better it was).

I noticed the mess of a Pride flag still flying at my local hospital yesterday - 15 days since Pride month finished and Disability Awareness Month began. You’d think raising awareness of disability would be more pertinent for a hospital. More pertinent in general, as provisions for disabled people are WOEFUL.

 

[katyazamo]

Just reading the last page on the previous thread about culture becoming completely pornified and pushing sex that would be considered fairly underground/niche into the mainstream. Totally in agreement.

Having worked in the sex/adult industry I feel like I've seen all sorts but it's even overwhelming for me. I don't really date men anymore, most men I've come across in my age bracket (late 20s-mid 30s) are riddled with porn addictions and have no intention of undoing 15-20 odd years of daily porn consumption. I don't think people quite realise the consequences.

And don't get me started on the young women claiming they're choosing to do sex work because it's "empowering". I know how punters speak about escorts and women in the sex industry, let me tell you they truly have no respect. They couldn't care less, they're laughing at women.

 

[sheleg]

I once got kicked out of a fashion group on FB. All the other women were fawning over some ridiculous looking transwoman. I commented “Nice male-pattern baldness, Sue” and got banned

 

[FogOfWar]

Indeed. Which is why it’s so glorious/bizarre that a LAW FIRM has just lost a case because they took LEGAL ADVICE from a charity

You mean you don't take legal advice from 25 year olds who need their mum and dog present in court proceedings ?(!)

 

[Sweetcouchpotato]

Aldous Huxley wrote Brave New World about babies born in a lab situation.......in the 1920s as a horror story!

His biggest theme was that these children would be born without close attachments to anyone, without a mother ! It does play havoc to the whole idea of Attachment theory psychology, whereby children need a strong attachment to a mother, to develop properly. Im not sure how this fits with adoption though?

I think carrying a baby for 9 months is a good way to start to create that attachment, without it, im sure a lot of mothers wouldnt be quite so close with their child!

I have two adopted children and attachment is a huge issue for them. Adopted children need to be able to transfer attachment from bio parent to foster carer to adoptive parent/s. That's a lot of work for small people to manage. One of my kids had five changes of main carer by ten months, and countless broken bonds with every move.

Both of them had very mentally ill mothers who formed a bond with them, especially in the case of the less psychotic birth mum. The more ill mum was so ill she never saw the baby at all but when I visited her some years later and gave her photos, she dropped to her knees in tears and howled "I want him back! I want him back!" She was completely delusional and 100% unsafe but within her own logic she tried to protect her unborn child and prepare for her birth but the delusional thoughts made it unsafe. It was incredibly moving to see someone who had no grasp on reality at all still had a primal attachment to her baby. It's been meaningful to her child to hear that while illness made her unsafe, it didn't stop her being loving in her own way.

I can't imagine telling my kids they came from a mechanical womb or I'd chosen to use a surrogate and deliberately rip them from the woman biology told them was their mum. Knowing they had first parents who loved and wanted them to the best of their ability has been really important to the children.

 

[DoraMaar]

 

[Cassandra333]

The sooner Stonewall is closed down the better. Stonewall are also the idiots who went around Govt depts and told them that the law was something they wanted it to be, not what the law actually was. And they were paid a lot of money to do it.

I have three (grown up) kids and I spent quite a few years childminding. Kids don't care about gender, they like dressing up and playing with toys. Let them have the clothes and toys they want.

 

[Aquamarina]

I can remember being cat called at 12. I hated it.

But I also remember being 14 and a school friend coming over. I mentioned that there were builders down the road and they'd cat called me. Her eyes lit up and she immediately said 'Lets go and walk past them!'

I refused and she was really miffed off. She was 15 years old and wanted a bunch of builders to tell her how gorgeous she was. I've never understood it.

I must admit that as a thirteen year old, I also would encourage my friends to walk past building sites so builders could cat call us and compliment us. They often had fairly young labourers back in the 1980s, so we were always trying to catch their eye. Looking back, it’s quite horrific to realise that these men did indeed cat call us and make suggestive comments that we thought were quite funny at the time.

I love men and have given birth to two and live with one, but I am utterly dismayed at the way the younger generation have been sold the lie of sexual empowerment coming from taking off their clothes and selling sex. As for the sex work is work bullshit, don’t get me started.
I also love the idea of the Woke Love Island programme. I would so love to see some of these beardy woke men having to show that they truly believe the TWAW mantra by having a physical relationship with these autogynephiles in their bad wigs and make up.

 

[maytoseptember]

So is non binary trans? I don’t even get NB honestly. Are any of us truly binary? She is female but doesn’t feel like a woman?

The only thing Sofie Hagen suffers from is a chronic lack of attention. I have no time for these women and their internalised misogyny. So you’re not like the other girls? Grow up. Most young women grow out of that shit before they reach their 20s. Woman isn’t a feeling.

 

[Cassandra333]

Like I say, I just cannot agree with "it's my way or no way".


No. Do you?

No, it's one of the incidents that woke me up to how bad drag queen story time is. Teaching a young child to bend over and wiggle his or her bum at anyone in the room? Grooming. And we're seeing far too much of grooming.

I can see no reason why drag queens should be involved in childrens activities. All my kids are grown up but there's no way that I'd have let them attend an event like this.

I don't agree with 'my way or the highway' either but I do agree with protesting about things that are wrong. I don't think that is 'my way or the highway'. I think that's people telling parents to open their eyes as to whats going on. And some parents clearly need to be told.

I get really pissed off with the 'teaching children to be fabulous' crap as well. It's actually teaching children to be superficial. Theres nothing fabulous about that. It's fake. It's telling children that if they want to be 'fabulous' then make up is the way to go. What nonsense. Do you know who is fabulous? Every woman in Englands women's football. They're fabulous. JK Rowling is fabulous. Marie Curie was beyond fabulous. Fake tits and make up isn't fabulous at all. We should encourage our kids to do much more in their lives than that.

 

[kittenattack]

Stonewall just want to get their hands on kids

They are categorically entirely wrong about children and their gender. My youngest son wanted to be a cat from age four. Everything he did was focused around being a cat. He tried very hard to identify as a cat and we humoured him and guess what? He's 18 now and definitely not a cat.

Stonewall are covert predators who are literally seeking to queer the pitch.

 

[sheleg]

The stranglehold that this ideology has on people is just staggering. There’s an influencer who recently had a stillborn baby. Absolutely tragic - but whenever she talks about motherhood, she always makes sure to add that childbirth isn’t just for women and mothers.

I can’t imagine being deep in grief and still kowtowing to TRA dogma. It’s unbelievable.

 

[Cassandra333]

The woke idiots want to rewrite history as well as biology now

Don't give skeletons a gender or categorise race, woke warriors demand # via https://android.com

They were trying this back when I was on Twatter. I was once (ha!) told that I was on the wrong side of history. I replied that history would dig up the bones of trans women and declare that they are men.

Caused a huge meltdown amongst the Tra's. Oh the names I was called.

 

[petitspois]

I also got kicked out of a fashion group (Does my Bum Look 40). One big old bloke in a wig is treated like Audrey Hepburn when he look like Jimmy Nail.

 

[petitspois]

Julie Bindel is really good on the 'sex work is work' crap. She said she did a talk and one guy said that sex work was no worse that working in Costa and she said something like 'but you don't have to bend over and take a dick up your arse in Costa do you?'

 

[DoraMaar]

Allison has won her case against GCC but not Stonewall:

She didn't win against SW - but - quote from AB
"Organisations who put ‘Stonewall Law’ before Equality Law or seek to silence others from lawfully voicing their criticism of Stonewall may be acting unlawfully & will suffer the consequences, even if Stonewall does not"

 

[Ekathrina]

Something similar happened to my son about a year ago. He was in an online relationship with someone (supposedly female, but I’ve got my suspicions otherwise) and he was groomed into various things under the guise of it being ‘kink’. He’s out of it now but the photos are still out there and it’s completely changed his personality and his mental health is still very poor. It’s one reason I hate ‘kink’ - it provides the perfect environment and excuse to mentally coerce young people because they want to be seen as ‘cool’ and edgy.