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Interestingly, there is something coming out of Ukraine, where Trans men have been unable to cross the border to Poland, because they are being treated as men by border guards.
Because, No Ukrainan men between the ages of 18 or 60 are allowed to leave the country at the moment!

But.... this also mentioned that these trans individuals were scared of Russia, because Russia has anti gay and anti trans policy!

So maybe the LGBT thing isnt world wide...and some countries dont support trans issues or LGBT issues!


So maybe...although I do support LGBT issues, and have some questions around trans issues, there are some countries and cultures, who do question them? So why cant we as well?
I’m sorry, but if you live by the sword you die by the sword. Fine to pretend you’re a bloke, but tough tit if you’re actually treated as one when crisis hits. No men are allowed to leave. Transmen “are” men, apparently. So they can’t leave.
 
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Erasure of boundaries for women and particularly children to enable paedophiles and sex offenders unfettered access. Promotion of non binary as an identity and to push cosmetic surgeries on the young. Sex nullification and then sexed surgeries and onto surrogacy. Mermaids is already branching out into surrogacy.

Also, who does puberty blockers actually benefit? Men sexually attracted to children, that's who.
Yes I have heard this theory before, it's chilling. I'm not fully convinced, but I'm not ruling it out.
 
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I'm not surprised by this but how there's women right now saying TW are having is worst than women boils my blood.
It needs to be reported on more - and duck middle-class SWIW wankers that ignore the horror that the many suffer.

 
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I don’t think there’s any great master plan. But a lot of powerful people who will reap the benefits and be pleased how things are playing out.
 
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I think its come from America, its culture of consumerism and individuality, and health system based on ability to pay. Its ideological roots are western post-modernism. Russian bots could be somewhere in the mix, but more to stir a pot that's already stirring and tbh I've not seen any direct evidence of this.
American healthcare culture seems to not only pathologise everything but also sell you the cure. I’m always shocked by the glib attitude to medicating kids and putting them intense therapies at very young ages. I’m in a bunch of FB groups for parents of autistic kids and I’m shocked on a weekly basis by parents talking about putting their primary school aged kids on meds for anxiety and depression, or (and this is thankfully more uncommon) 40 hours a week of therapies. Just the other day there was someone asking for recommendations for an executive function coach for a FOUR YEAR OLD.

I mean, executive dysfunction is real in people with autism or ADHD and they certainly might benefit from strategies and coaching as they get older… but a four year old? Most four year olds can’t even wipe their bottoms or reliably hold a pencil, so why that parent thought they needed to address executive dysfunction in a kid barely out of toddlerhood I don’t know.

Seems logical to me that a healthcare system based upon green lighting all the drugs and therapies your insurance will pay for will embrace an ideology that creates an entire generation of lifelong patients,
 
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I agree about it stemming from America. Being trans means a life of needing medication and in a country where you pay for healthcare, what better way to line up millions of lifelong customers than pushing the trans agenda? Starting from the minute they hit school. It’s pretty obvious to me but seems to have gone over the heads of a lot of people who have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Especially American celebs who have a lot of influence.
 
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I think TikTok has been bad for this but ultimately it was spreading on YT and Instagram and Reddit long before TikTok.
I think this all started with Tumblr back in the day (around 2013/2014). Lots of teenage girls fetishising gay relationships in the media and deciding to be trans boys, and then you had the bonkers otherkin and 100,000s of genders stuff too. At the time it was easy to laugh it all off and go out into the real world and realise nobody gave a duck. Nowadays the line is becoming increasingly blurred. Just look at pronouns in email signatures and on social media for instance.

Saw on twitter earlier that a tennis club has changed it's online application form to be "more inclusive". Pathetic.


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'Female (no longer valid)' - if ever there were a better phrase to sum up the current state of affairs.
 
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Lowering the age of consent .
The age of consent issue is definitely a case in point: for example, Stonewall and Mermaids are members of ILGA (The International les, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, and Intersex Association), which purports to "support LGBTI civil society worldwide through advocacy and research projects, and give grassroots movements a voice within international organisations". They require that members support the aims of IGLA.

These aims include the following (Section 14a of their Declaration):


" Eliminate all laws and policies that punish or criminalize same-sex intimacy, gender affirmation, abortion, HIV transmission non-disclosure and exposure, or that limit the exercise of bodily autonomy, including laws limiting legal capacity of adolescents , people with disabilities or other groups to provide consent to sex or sexual and reproductive health services or laws authorizing non-consensual abortion, sterilization, or contraceptive use;"

The WHO defines 'Adolescents' as individuals in the 10-19 years age group.

To repeat, a stated aim of the ILGA (The International les, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, and Intersex Association) is to “Eliminate all laws … limiting legal capacity of [10-19 year olds] … to provide consent to sex”, and this aim is implicitly supported by Stonewall and Mermaids by virtue of their membership.

The member list is here: https://ilga.org/civi_details
 
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I have a theory about that, which makes me come across a bit tin-hattish, but after all the absolute insanity in the last few years I absolutely think it’s true. I believe it’s Russia and China spreading this rot. If you think it sounds crazy, I don’t mind, but then people say Russia absolutely interfered online with Brexit and Trump by posting propaganda online And nobody bats an eye. As for China, it’s funny how Chinese-owned TikTok are warping young western teen minds, not just this topic, but also the stupid challenges which involve porn and even results in death and yet China limits its own citizens to 20(?) minutes of usage per day.

I have a theory what the end game is but I could be wrong
Im not sure that Russia and China necessarily started the rot......

But they do seem to have a lot of fun with 'playing' with social media and propaganda, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have bots to stir up arguments around these issues.
And in a way if they create a stir around issues like transgender issues, and transgender sports people, it takes the heat away from them deliberately doping athletes, or banning all gay people.
It is so easy to assume that because we accept so many things in the USA and UK and western Europe that it is the same elsewhere...when it isnt.
Are gay people allowed in China I wonder?

I didnt realise Tiktok was chinese owned either...or that they limited screen time to only 20 minutes a day....interesting.
 
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Im not sure that Russia and China necessarily started the rot......

But they do seem to have a lot of fun with 'playing' with social media and propaganda, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have bots to stir up arguments around these issues.
And in a way if they create a stir around issues like transgender issues, and transgender sports people, it takes the heat away from them deliberately doping athletes, or banning all gay people.
It is so easy to assume that because we accept so many things in the USA and UK and western Europe that it is the same elsewhere...when it isnt.
Are gay people allowed in China I wonder?

I didnt realise Tiktok was chinese owned either...or that they limited screen time to only 20 minutes a day....interesting.
My apologies, i’ve Just googled to check - its 40 minutes a day, not 20, and it’s the equivalent app Douyin (as Chinese-owned TikTok is banned in China)


Also, from googling, I just learned that last year, TikTok dethroned Google as the internets most visited internet domain 😮

BORIS JOHNSON STATEMENT IN HOC TODAY:


Angela Richardson
(Con) asks if the PM supports research into why so many girls are experiencing gender distress.
Johnson says he would be happy to have a meeting on this. MPs realise this issue requires sensitivity, tact and care. If people want to make a transition, they should be treated with maximum generosity, he says.
But he says, when it comes to distinguishing between a man and a woman, “the basic facts of biology remain overwhelmingly important”.
 
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So frustrated to type this the day has finally come that I feared. My incredibly brave and self assured teen has come home from school saying she was standing up for a friend who was been harassed for being "effeminate" and the perpetrator turned to her and said 'oh you are a girl, you don't act like it, why don't you just cut your hair and become a boy'. So thankfull my daughter knows she is a girl despite her interests and behaviours. But so disheartened to hear of kids who are barely teenagers spouting the trans rhetoric of if you don't fit a gender stereotype you must be trans.
 
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Are gay people allowed in China I wonder?
It’s not illegal, and isn’t frowned upon in the Judeo-Christian “sin” way. But the vast majority of gay people are in straight marriages, either openly to each other (lavender marriage between a les and a gay man) or in secret (meeting same-sex lovers secretly).

I lived in china for 10 years and had many gay friends.

Incidentally, the most famous TV star in China is Jin Xing - a male to female transsexual, and one of the first to undergo a “Sex change” operation. Former soldier. Very interesting story.

However, right now, an “anti-sissy” law is being promulgated, warning men off behaving effeminately.

As with everything in China, there are certain freedoms permitted at surface level, but deeper prejudices below.
 
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Lol that's when I peaked.
The CEO of Tumbler is now also CEO of Planned Parenthood who are giving out cross sex hormones like sweets. Gendermapper on YouTube goes in depth at the link between the two.

In other news, I loathe Boris Johnson, but if he carries on with this line I will 100% vote for him and for my daughter to be able to have a solid future in the UK.

 
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