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To go back to the Stonewall definition on the previous thread - how can a person be transgender without gender dysphoria? I'm genuinely curious, how can you transition from one gender to another without feeling like you were born the wrong gender in the first place?! I can't make sense of it at all
@Jayceedove just wanted to say I've found your posts interesting and thanks for being respectful. I've come across many what transsexuals over the years who have not once made a fuss or demanded to be included in women's spaces and it's sad to see where we're at now.
It's a fetish or a paraphilia rather than dysphoria - 98+% of trans men (men who pretend they are women) will never have any surgery - they like to be 'girls' - Eddie Izard says he is in 'girl' mode some days - they just dress up as they think women should - usually like '50s starlets or hookers
Another insane thing I saw someone say over the Lia Thomas thing was that if just one trans kid sees her victory and decides to continue living then that's worth far more than how some women do in a swimming pool. Always with the suicide angle. It's like trans folx permanently have a noose on standby!
They are manipulative as duck. I feel sorry for any ~trans~ kid who looks at that opportunistic and fetishistic male and thinks he's an inspiration or whatever.
I get the vibes from him he doesn't even believe he's a woman, he's just doing this to see how far he can go and he can't believe how stupid the people who actually believe him are.
I get the vibes from him he doesn't even believe he's a woman, he's just doing this to see how far he can go and he can't believe how stupid the people who actually believe him are.
If as many trans people died because of ‘lack of healthcare’ as claimed in we would have examples all over Twitter. It really disturbs me how they do not abide by the reporting guidelines for talking about people who sadly take their own lives. It’s always gratuitous and shocking and offensive. So no doubt we would know about it.
In contrast so many women and girls are murdered and sometimes they do not even mention her name, just talk of the perpetrator. Double erasure.
In contrast so many women and girls are murdered and sometimes they do not even mention her name, just talk of the perpetrator. Double erasure.
I used to be on the TumblrInAction subreddit in about 2015 (back when it was mostly just for laughing at people who identified as anime characters and thought fitness requirements for firefighters were sexist and fatphobic), and a fair proportion of the users were medically transitioned people who were pissed off at all the 'stargender demigirls' on tumblr making them look ridiculous. Whatever your opinion on the cause and validity of identifying as trans, I think we can all agree that it sucks for anyone who's just trying to quietly get on with their life that the loudest voices claiming to represent them are these obnoxious AGP freaks.
Not a Wootton fan, but its a good article
www.dailymail.co.uk
DAN WOOTTON: If Lia Thomas competes, then women's sport is finished
DAN WOOTTON: Seeing Lia Thomas tower over biological women at the NCAA championships was madness... transgender people should not be allowed to compete outside their sex.
Thought some of you might find this interesting.
That's not the point though and never has been. A man being allowed to compete in women's sports is wrong. End of. What are people not understanding? Is it because they don't want to upset or offend anyone, is it willful ignorance? Because all I'm seeing is a man taking advantage and elbowing his way into women's sports and I've seen it time and time again - they want access to women's toilets, changing rooms, prisons, hospital wards, groups.. Its never going to be enough, is it?
Lia Thomas: Lord Coe warning over 'fragile' women's sport
Lord Coe issues a warning over the "fragile" future of women's sport due to the debate over transgender athletes.
www.bbc.co.uk
If I had a pound for everyone saying a bloke competing against women has the same “innate advantage” as Michael Phelps competing against men with a shorter armspan… aaaaargh!
It’s the “well they’re going to rape you anyway” of the women’s sports debate.
It’s the “well they’re going to rape you anyway” of the women’s sports debate.
Funny how this argument doesn't apply the other way, isn't it? Maybe Thomas should be competing in the biological males category despite having lower testosterone levels, because some people are always going to be at a disadvantage and "that's sports, buddy"
Unrelated and about two full threads late, but I'm reading throigh some of the previous threads and could someone please catch me up on what happened with the reddit mod who apparently admitted to sexually assaulting people? It got mentioned briefly but I didn't see it get discussed further - was this the same person whose father went to prison for raping a child, or was that someone else?
Exasperating honestly.
Thomas is an opportunistic man, probably cackling at all the fools defending him.
I see Labour are continuing to make themselves unelectable for the foreseeable future
The sissies are reviewing period underwear and M&S don’t mind publishing their wank fodder reviews.
It's ridiculous. Their argument never applies to Paralympic athletes (and nor should it) - oh, you've lost a leg? Well, you should still compete with athletes who have two legs because "that's sports, buddy!"Funny how this argument doesn't apply the other way, isn't it? Maybe Thomas should be competing in the biological males category despite having lower testosterone levels, because some people are always going to be at a disadvantage and "that's sports, buddy"
It couldn't be more obvious to me that they can't stand women. We're being gaslit into accepting men in our sports.
I work in a secondary school where the senior management are all very 'yay inclusivity' and unicorn farts (we actually had a poster of Mayor Owen up for a while to promote non-binary visibility, lol). Most of my colleagues don't really subscribe to all that but just roll their eyes and get on with it, like we do with all the new initiatives they're constantly coming out with. This week a couple of people have mentioned that they showed pictures of Lia Thomas in form time and were getting their classes to debate whether this sort of thing was okay, and the kids were apparently pretty stumped too. I think this story is getting so much traction that it's going to end up being a turning point for a lot of people who would otherwise think it was all just about pointless twitter drama.
That's a point. If biological men can compete as women because it's how they identify, surely allowing people with BIID to start competing in the amputees categories follows the exact same logic?
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