Gender Discussion #23

Status
Thread locked. We start a new thread when they have over 1000 posts, click the blue button to see all threads for this topic and find the latest open thread.
New to Tattle Life? Click "Order Thread by Most Liked Posts" button below to get an idea of what the site is about:
Because the hearing is scheduled for 20 working days, with more than 30 witnesses being called, and as she's a criminal barrister she needs to have an employment specialist representing her, it's not her area of expertise. She has the same team as Maya Forstater - Ben Cooper and Anya Palmer - who are brilliant, but not cheap. Stonewall is trying to make this go away by making it too expensive for her to continue the case, Bristol University is doing the same thing to Raquel Rosario Sanchez, who is having to find another £75,000 in 5 days because the university has introduced a substantial piece of late evidence.
Do you know if it’s true that even if she (and Racquel) wins, the other side don’t have to pay for the court costs? Because if it is and they’re purposely submitting evidence so close to the trial date in order to steepen the costs knowing they won’t be liable even if losing, that’s outrageous.
 
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: 9
Do you know if it’s true that even if she (and Racquel) wins, the other side don’t have to pay for the court costs? Because if it is and they’re purposely submitting evidence so close to the trial date in order to steepen the costs knowing they won’t be liable even if losing, that’s outrageous.
I think that’s exactly what’s happening. Maya Foresters trial they kept trying to submit new evidence too….
 
  • Like
  • Angry
Reactions: 11
Do you know if it’s true that even if she (and Racquel) wins, the other side don’t have to pay for the court costs? Because if it is and they’re purposely submitting evidence so close to the trial date in order to steepen the costs knowing they won’t be liable even if losing, that’s outrageous.
On Raquel's page it says that she has to raise enough money to pay the other side's costs in case she loses. Allison says she will be personally liable for over half a million in costs whether she wins or loses. Raquel's case has actually been heard, I'd forgotten, but they're expecting a judgement by the middle of May, although the judge did say he might request an extension.
 
  • Like
  • Wow
  • Angry
Reactions: 9
Do you know if it’s true that even if she (and Racquel) wins, the other side don’t have to pay for the court costs? Because if it is and they’re purposely submitting evidence so close to the trial date in order to steepen the costs knowing they won’t be liable even if losing, that’s outrageous.
I have to say, behaviour like this (and the immense sums of money required) really shines a light on our legal system and what a mess it is.

I don’t begrudge people needing tons to money to instruct expensive QCs, but the ease with which the other side can throw a spanner in the works… it shouldn’t be allowed.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 19
People reported this and Twitter said it didn’t go against any guidelines. I’m the past few days I’ve reported a incel saying he wanted to kill women but wouldn’t and a very offensive anti semitic image. Both times Twitter said it didn’t go against their guidelines.
It’s shocking what Twitter allows and doesn’t. Do any of you follow Milli Hill? She’s very critical of the trans ideology taking over the birth world and she got a Twitter ban recently for ‘hate speech’ - can’t remember what the tweet said but it was basically just questioning the ideology, nothing hateful (and certainly nowhere near like what JK has to live with)
 
  • Like
Reactions: 18
I’m noticing that certain brands (Always) are not allowing comments on Instagram posts - just noticed the 2/5 people who have periods post! Is this because they know the tide is turning. Women are not happy, but if they allow the comments it will be obvious.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 13
It’s shocking what Twitter allows and doesn’t. Do any of you follow Milli Hill? She’s very critical of the trans ideology taking over the birth world and she got a Twitter ban recently for ‘hate speech’ - can’t remember what the tweet said but it was basically just questioning the ideology, nothing hateful (and certainly nowhere near like what JK has to live with)
I got a twitter ban for this last week, in reply to the question: What is trans?

(I don't know why on the Twitter thumbnail it added amp after &)
1648981913578.jpeg
 
  • Angry
  • Wow
Reactions: 10
I too am old and feel that the world has gone mad!!!

I was born in the 60s and grew up in the 70s and 80s when gender stereotypes were very ingrained. When I was at school boys did technical studies (woodwork etc) and girls did fabric and fashion. It was considered ground-breaking that we all did food and nutrition.

The cyclists photo highlights to me how much things have changed. Years ago women strived to be able to be who they were, without having to wear make up or high heels. Sometimes I feel transwoman think that this is the definition of womanhood.

I believe that people should be able to live their lives as they want and society should respect people's decisions.

I'm not religious but the one thing I hold onto from my Catholic days are treat people as you want to be treated.

But!!! I have issues with the self declaration thing that is progressing in Scotland. And my main issue is the effect on vulnerable women, women in refuges, hospitals, prison etc.

In everyday life if we see someone were uncomfortable with, we can leave or move to a different space. If you are in a refuge, hospital or prison, you can't. And that worries me.

And one final thing. I believe transwoman are woman. There are loads of different kinds of women (or at least there used to be).

But if you can wake up tommorrow morning and think, I've had enough of this woman thing and I'm going back to being a man, you are not a transwoman, you're a narcissist and a chancer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 6
I’ve just seen the Niomi smart thread where they compared a male swimmer’s advantages to that tall one with huge feet 🤣🤣🤣 Okay! And another saying that JKR said trans males shouldn’t use women’s toilets in case they ‘spied’ on them?! What planet are these women living on? I don’t want any male around me when I’m in the toilet, out of public view, whether he’s in a dress or not. Have some gender neutral toilets IN ADDITION to sexed and go in there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 20
I too am old and feel that the world has gone mad!!!

I was born in the 60s and grew up in the 70s and 80s when gender stereotypes were very ingrained. When I was at school boys did technical studies (woodwork etc) and girls did fabric and fashion. It was considered ground-breaking that we all did food and nutrition.

The cyclists photo highlights to me how much things have changed. Years ago women strived to be able to be who they were, without having to wear make up or high heels. Sometimes I feel transwoman think that this is the definition of womanhood.

I believe that people should be able to live their lives as they want and society should respect people's decisions.

I'm not religious but the one thing I hold onto from my Catholic days are treat people as you want to be treated.

But!!! I have issues with the self declaration thing that is progressing in Scotland. And my main issue is the effect on vulnerable women, women in refuges, hospitals, prison etc.

In everyday life if we see someone were uncomfortable with, we can leave or move to a different space. If you are in a refuge, hospital or prison, you can't. And that worries me.

And one final thing. I believe transwoman are woman. There are loads of different kinds of women (or at least there used to be).

But if you can wake up tommorrow morning and think, I've had enough of this woman thing and I'm going back to being a man, you are not a transwoman, you're a narcissist and a chancer.
Please explain how TWAW?

Treating people with respect, is a two way street. I have seen zero respect, empathy, compassion or even a willingness to address the issues of rapes, murders and sexual assaults that are happening because women are being forced to accept and bloody validate grown men who cannot be honest with themselves that they are men! - Nada of anything but oppression from TRA's and their supporters.

And it is oppression.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 22
That’s why I unsubscribed ages ago. It was as though every time he had really strong feelings he couldn’t control, out would come another rant. It got really draining.
Yes, that’s it! The frequency and intensity made me really uneasy. Like, we’re meant to be on the same side... I’m not sure he’s a good figurehead for TERFism tbh.

In other news, I have a new kindle so am finally getting round to reading Helen Joyce’s Trans book, thank you to whoever gave the heads up when it was 99p not so long ago!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 12
And one final thing. I believe transwoman are woman. There are loads of different kinds of women (or at least there used to be).
There are loads of different kinds of women but none of them have or at some point had, a pen. Trans women are men and are not a subset of women.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 38
Please explain how TWAW?

Treating people with respect, is a two way street. I have seen zero respect, empathy, compassion or even a willingness to address the issues of rapes, murders and sexual assaults that are happening because women are being forced to accept and bloody validate grown men who cannot be honest with themselves that they are men! - Nada of anything but oppression from TRA's and their supporters.

And it is oppression.
I would agree.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 9
The phrase ‘trans women are women’ was a Trojan horse. This entire situation started by women being kind and considerate and parroting such a nonsensical phrase and after that it was a constant chipping away of boundaries and now look where we are.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 30
Paula Radcliffe adds her name to the list of sportswomen speaking out about this :)

 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 40
Status
Thread locked. We start a new thread when they have over 1000 posts, click the blue button to see all threads for this topic and find the latest open thread.