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Very telling! Sending out a clear message. How Lia Thomas can sleep at night I have no idea. I honestly do not think LT actually is trans. I think he is doing all this deliberately for his own gain, knowing the political landscape that trans women hold all the power now. He knows he can get to the Olympics and win gold and doesn’t care how many women he needs to trample all over to get it. And we’ve all to stand back and cheer. duck.THAT.
Ive said before the only saving Grace out of this whole mess was if he won, and in a post-interview admitted that the whole thing was a lie, he did it to make an important point about how this simply can’t be policed in a fair way, and to formally give up the medal and 1st place on the podium.
 
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“Where are the feminists?”

You’ve blocked them all.
Allies: OMG you GC TERFS! Get out of my safe space! You're TRIGGERING ME! YOU'RE BLOCKED, you transphobic nazi bigot!
Also Allies: If 'feminists' with differing opinions to ✨ our truth ✨ actually existed, there'd be tweets.
 
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If you watch videos of the race, he is barely kicking. Just costing along while the WOMEN put their all into the race. He is a cheat. A man without shame
 
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Piers Morgan has tweeted and one of the replies (by a man) is to be quiet and let women speak. No one bleeping listens to us, dude! Let Piers speak!
 
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I just saw a collective meltdown over Bella Hadid confirming she had a nose job at 14 and how Yolanda is the worst mother to ever live to allow her to do this. If we can agree that it’s bad for teenagers to get cosmetic surgery that will alter them why are “trans” kids and their parents are praised for getting surgery that mutilates their body…

but then I saw this post and I had the close the internet…gender affirming surgery, these handmaidens really work overtime to justify this madness.
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I don’t even want comment on this swimmer, I was an athlete and I was one of the best in my country for a while but whenever boys started the puberty they left us girls so behind we had no chance, even if we were older and had better technique and trained more. Everyone who supports trans women in women’s sport is a fool.
 
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Watching those tiktok videos - I think he’s taking the piss. The actual trans videos I’ve seen are much more aggressive, and earnest and self pitying and misogynistic. He’s having too much fun with it, because it’s a big joke.

If he turns out to be really TiM I will take that back, I thought it was a funny parody of these people.
 
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Video evidence of Liar Thomas not kicking at all. Just look at the size of his arms pulling him through the water compared to the women.
 
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I just saw a collective meltdown over Bella Hadid confirming she had a nose job at 14 and how Yolanda is the worst mother to ever live to allow her to do this. If we can agree that it’s bad for teenagers to get cosmetic surgery that will alter them why are “trans” kids and their parents are praised for getting surgery that mutilates their body…

but then I saw this post and I had the close the internet…gender affirming surgery, these handmaidens really work overtime to justify this madness.
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I don’t even want comment on this swimmer, I was an athlete and I was one of the best in my country for a while but whenever boys started the puberty they left us girls so behind we had no chance, even if we were older and had better technique and trained more. Everyone who supports trans women in women’s sport is a fool.
Yeah.........but , of course, if the person identifies as a woman you aren't allowed to say anything, nor bar them from the womens competition.
What they need to do is offer- specifically- a trans race , but also allowing anyone else to enter as well. That way the playing field is levelled. That way you can have mens, womens and trans - and if a man or woman who hasn't transgendered enters it & wins it,well, that's fair play isn't it? Because it seems to be fair play if a trans wins in the women's race?
 
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Tom Swarbrick is standing in for Shelagh Forgarty on LBC this week & has just dedicated the last hour to sex versus gender with reference to Lia Thomas & the hospital grape story. Worth a listen just for the pro self ID callers tying themselves in knots.
 
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Must say I don’t know how this issue hasn’t caused more arguments with your partner. With my husband, when I started talking about this stuff he actually doubted a lot of what I was saying because let’s face it, it’s batshit. But then he started reading things and he heard Nancy Kelley on women’s hour being grilled and tripping over her words but eventually admitting you cannot change biological sex. He started to get peaked. Now he’s a full blown terf ✊
Well tbh I'm only a recent convert to GC so it's not had an opportunity to come up a lot! She's very "live and let live" and like me previously a bit naive in thinking that the vast majority of people act how they do for the best possible reasons. Honestly I think if I sat with her and went over everything she'd have a bit of a personal crisis and realise she's not as pro trans as she'd like to think. I'm also just more politically-minded though so I doubt that'd happen cos she's just not interested. As someone said earlier in the thread though, she's definitely one of the women who if you stopped them on the street and explained to them what all this means to women, she'd be against it.
 
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The longer they leave Thomas in the public eye the more people are peaked.

Absolutely, no one is fooled by Thomas or any other trans person. NO ONE.

Not women, not men, not kids, not pets, not TRA's, not trans people. NO ONE is fooled in the slightest. Time to stop being kind and start being truthful.
 
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Well tbh I'm only a recent convert to GC so it's not had an opportunity to come up a lot! She's very "live and let live" and like me previously a bit naive in thinking that the vast majority of people act how they do for the best possible reasons. Honestly I think if I sat with her and went over everything she'd have a bit of a personal crisis and realise she's not as pro trans as she'd like to think. I'm also just more politically-minded though so I doubt that'd happen cos she's just not interested. As someone said earlier in the thread though, she's definitely one of the women who if you stopped them on the street and explained to them what all this means to women, she'd be against it.
My boyfriend of several months broke up with me when he figured out I was TWAW. I had figured he was on the other side but wasn't sure how much. I think he's been a coward. Broke up with me rather than think to be quite frank.
 
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My boyfriend of several months broke up with me when he figured out I was TWAW. I had figured he was on the other side but wasn't sure how much. I think he's been a coward. Broke up with me rather than think to be quite frank.
Better off without him in that case! There's no value in a relationship where you can't discuss anything real and respect differences of opinion (or at least try).
 
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Better off without him in that case! There's no value in a relationship where you can't discuss anything real and respect differences of opinion (or at least try).
I've been upset because I think he's capable of better. I think he's massively letting himself down and that when this tit hits mainstream in a way that's unavoidable he's going to be appalled with himself.

His female friends are all lib-fems so that won't help him either.
 
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