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My partner thinks I have unkind views on trans people. Asked her if she supports self ID: yes. Asked her if she thought it was fair that men who are sexual predators can then ID as women to gain access to vulnerable women in hostels and grape crisis groups, as is happening in Scotland: no, but #notalltranswomen. Then concluded she couldn't argue as I had clearly done more research. Give me strength.
 
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Transmisogyny is not a thing.

Cis is not a thing.

Transwomen are men. Transmen are women.

Paris Lees, Munroe Bergdorf, Blaire White, Lily Madigan, India Willoughby, Shon Fae. All blokes.

I’m sure these statements make me a massive bigoted TERFy transphobe in this brave new world, but at this stage I couldn’t give a flying feck.
Trans misogyny can only apply to trans identified females. They may experience it because they are women, but not because they are trans.

Cis does not refer to humans, but to molecules. It is used to make everyone part of the trans tit show.

There is actually no such thing as a trans woman. It is a word they made up to trick the mind. There are only trans identified males (TiM's).

There is no such thing as transitioning either. One thing does not and cannot change into another. It is used to trick the mind into false beliefs.

Stating women's natal reality does not make you a bigoted terf. Claiming the above is true makes you a handmaiden, centering male wants over all women's reality.

Remember transphobic, transphobe, TERF, witch, witch. Are all terms used to silence the women. Given that any resistance to the trans people how comes under one of these labels (weren't we getting rid of labels?) and they are used so often they are utterly meaningless.

Please don't allow them to effect your mood.

At least you aren't an AGP male with plastic bits and a pen, getting his rocks off to sissy porn.

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Transmisogyny is not a thing.

Cis is not a thing.

Transwomen are men. Transmen are women.

Paris Lees, Munroe Bergdorf, Blaire White, Lily Madigan, India Willoughby, Shon Fae. All blokes.

I’m sure these statements make me a massive bigoted TERFy transphobe in this brave new world, but at this stage I couldn’t give a flying feck.
Had to look the first thing up and it was coined by "someone assigned male" at birth and yes its just a made up thing

Cis is used simply to try and nullify arguments rather than counter them with facts

Yip

Biological sex is real and gender critical beliefs are perfectly valid........just let the hysterical purple haired loonballs scream and shout terf they will eventually get a sore throat




This may be them https://twitter.com/sodsidian

Only reason I say that is a google reverse image showed up a few twitter accounts - not having twitter myself I cannot look at more that a few tweets but this was here
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“Lost their lives this year” Not by murder like over 100 women in the UK over the last year then.
 
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I had to work at a large event yesterday on an exhibition stand so I saw hundreds of people pass by. I spotted two men dressed as women as they looked just like men dressed as women. It was interesting to see other people's reactions, everyone I looked at spotted it, did a double take (some with a barely imperceptible wince) then carried on. We all bloody see it, why do some people still say the Emperor has wonderful new clothes when he is a bloke in a dress?
 
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Sooooo in response, this happened:

This person is a therapist? They need to be nowhere near vulnerable patients with that level of gaslighting.

Also, in UK law it is literally impossible to be grape by a woman. grape is by definition penetration with a pen.

These people are off their bleeping heads. The misogyny is coming from inside the house.
 
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My partner thinks I have unkind views on trans people. Asked her if she supports self ID: yes. Asked her if she thought it was fair that men who are sexual predators can then ID as women to gain access to vulnerable women in hostels and grape crisis groups, as is happening in Scotland: no, but #notalltranswomen. Then concluded she couldn't argue as I had clearly done more research. Give me strength.
Must say I don’t know how this issue hasn’t caused more arguments with your partner. With my husband, when I started talking about this stuff he actually doubted a lot of what I was saying because let’s face it, it’s batshit. But then he started reading things and he heard Nancy Kelley on women’s hour being grilled and tripping over her words but eventually admitting you cannot change biological sex. He started to get peaked. Now he’s a full blown terf ✊

This person is a therapist? They need to be nowhere near vulnerable patients with that level of gaslighting.

Also, in UK law it is literally impossible to be grape by a woman. grape is by definition penetration with a pen.

These people are off their bleeping heads. The misogyny is coming from inside the house.
Exactly what I was just thinking. The gaslighting is off the scale here. It’s disgusting.
 
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Must say I don’t know how this issue hasn’t caused more arguments with your partner. With my husband, when I started talking about this stuff he actually doubted a lot of what I was saying because let’s face it, it’s batshit. But then he started reading things and he heard Nancy Kelley on women’s hour being grilled and tripping over her words but eventually admitting you cannot change biological sex. He started to get peaked. Now he’s a full blown terf ✊
men in my family said they were not part of the discussion and I had to tell them we needed them to be because mens voices are unfortunately so much stronger/more listened to on the world stage than women's when it comes to major issues - simply because the world is misogynistic
bizarre how men are refusing to acknowledge that society is sexist and simply excusing themselves from the conversation
we need all the support we can get
 
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would not be surprised if the majority of candidates stated as woman in the Scottish greens are men in the next few years

I only quickly read the article this morning but it seems a well written and referenced article

That's a brilliant article, so well written.
I wish some younger women could see through this bull 😒
I've posted it below;
 
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Sooooo in response, this happened:

This calculated twisting of reality makes me so angry. I feel like I’m living in clown world 🤡

They’re seeking to change the meaning of “male” and “female” as well as “man” and “woman”.
 
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It is pointless. My work asked us but no one in my department has done it because having spoken to quite a few, they think it’s ridiculous and pointless. So it’s just the head of department that has, she is out there on her own, a married woman with kids and a female name, letting everyone know she goes by she/her. Idiotic. I’m embarrassed for her. She will go along with anything, no questions asked. Imagine we were asked to put our religion or political affiliation on our signatures? That’s what I equate it to. Why does my workplace assume I believe in gender identity?
Putting Miss, Ms, Miss, Mr on our work sign offs is not law or even expected. It would be classed as compelled speech. This pronouns rubbish is just for trans validation,

As a woman, no one has ever validated me, nor have I have required someone to do so - I certainly wont be validating a bloke in a dress, even if it hurts his feelings. I don't care.
 
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That's a brilliant article, so well written.
I wish some younger women could see through this bull 😒
I've posted it below;
I am a young woman standing up for women scared to be called terfs.
A fellow young person in journalism retweeted the pink news lia thomas article here
supporting it
while I have liked the USC father stating that his daughter will swim against lia
I feel too scared to voice my opinion on this with peers but will do and have done and met some young men who feel the same.
Women are so used to being erased it's time to stand up and end female erasure.
 
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My Twitter TL is full of Lia Thomas. Decided to scroll through the comments to see what the prevailing opinions were. One of the replies - from a man obvs - really got me. It’s so, so predictable and happens all the time.

Wait for it…

“Where are the feminists?”
 
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I am a young woman standing up for women scared to be called terfs.
A fellow young person in journalism retweeted the pink news lia thomas article here
supporting it
while I have liked the USC father stating that his daughter will swim against lia
I feel too scared to voice my opinion on this with peers but will do and have done and met some young men who feel the same.
Women are so used to being erased it's time to stand up and end female erasure.
Thats good to hear. I'm sorry if I sounded negative in any way it wasn't intentional.

My daughter and all her friends have been sucked into this ideology.
They think they are being inclusive and accepting of what everyone wants and fail to see the abuse. It comes from a good place but they are all being taken advantage of in my view.
 
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Kellie Jay Keen was at the ‘Lia’ Thomas thing bringing facts.
‘I’m not a vet but I know what a dog is’ 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Lia Thomas won. I am so very shocked. :rolleyes:

2nd place: Emma Weyant, Olympic Silver Medallist
3rd place: Erica Sullivan, Olympic Silver Medallist

Cheers mate (editor-in-chief of SwimSwam)

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