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It's so hard to know what they actually mean, isn't it? lol. Like, this could mean he's into women but only trans women. Or it could mean he doesn't want to be in a relationship with a gay man (since that invalidates this ~womanhood~) and wants to be with a straight man instead.
Yeah I don’t really know what this means. But I have heard of sexuality changing when a person transitions. I’m not sure how or why though.
 
Yeah I don’t really know what this means. But I have heard of sexuality changing when a person transitions. I’m not sure how or why though.
My hunch is it’s all about validation, like most things. I mean look at AGP men. Almost always heterosexual but their fetish often compels them to “have sex like a woman” because it makes them feel like the debased sissies in their favourite hypno porn 🤢
 
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Poor child.

I see Fallon Fox also walked that show. Nasty man who enjoys beating women.
Fallon and his mini-me Alana McLaughlin really make my skin crawl. I don't agree with men in any women's sports but a man must be a pure sadist to want to be in a combat sport against women.

They're even making a movie now about how 'great' Fallon is. Not even a small indie film company - the producer is the same man who was producer on Saving Private Ryan.

 
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Yeah I don’t really know what this means. But I have heard of sexuality changing when a person transitions. I’m not sure how or why though.
'I’ve never felt better in my life. I spent 28 years of my life suicidal and depressed and recovering from alcoholism and drug addiction. I don’t think I’ve ever been genuinely happy until this past year'

Right ho
 
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Fallon and his mini-me Alana McLaughlin really make my skin crawl. I don't agree with men in any women's sports but a man must be a pure sadist to want to be in a combat sport against women.

They're even making a movie now about how 'great' Fallon is. Not even a small indie film company - the producer is the same man who was producer on Saving Private Ryan.

Who would want to watch that piece of tit's highly romanticised story? I have noticed that Hollywood is really, really pushing the trans thing. I see a conspiracy theory there but I can not think who in power is it who wants this? Apart from pedophiles, no one benefits from all this gender nonsense. Its destructive, hurtful and backward.
 
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Tommy knocks me sick tbh. He can be feminine but he just looks ridiculous acting like he’s a woman. Have you seen his massive bleeping feet, hands and jawline? It’s ridiculous and I don’t have sympathy for him. Internalised homophobia is hard but you don’t get to pretend to be a woman so it’s easier. He lives in America, not Iran, ffs.
 

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There was a case in Canada ( I think), where a transman who had all documentation as male , had some kidney ( I think) problems. All the tests showed the trans man was within normal ranges for a male but those levels were far too high to be normal for a female The trans man would have died had they not told the drs that they were actually female.
Edit: it was USA and doctors found the uterus when they scanned the transman….apparently they were quite shocked!
presumably there will be case after case like this, you cannot deny science
 
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Who would want to watch that piece of tit's highly romanticised story? I have noticed that Hollywood is really, really pushing the trans thing. I see a conspiracy theory there but I can not think who in power is it who wants this? Apart from pedophiles, no one benefits from all this gender nonsense. Its destructive, hurtful and backward.
I think it's partly Hollywood just chasing the money (but a few years too late). Even though this debate has been going on for decades, I think Trump's election was a big turning point. Suddenly politics became more polarised than ever before, and a lot of people made 'I hate Trump' their core personality trait, in a similar way that some people here made either Brexiteer or Remainer their core personality trait.

Then, when you had Trump vs trans people in the military, everything just ramped up a huge amount. Suddenly, if you wanted to prove you were against Trump, you had to be pro-trans. Especially for younger people, which is probably the demographic that is a) pitching movies and b) that Hollywood wants to get money from.

There has also been a lot of debate over the past few years about whether Hollywood is inclusive enough in terms of race, and I think that has made them more inclined to approve projects that they consider to have 'marginalised' (aka trans) people in.
 
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Tommy knocks me sick tbh. He can be feminine but he just looks ridiculous acting like he’s a woman. Have you seen his massive bleeping feet, hands and jawline? It’s ridiculous and I don’t have sympathy for him. Internalised homophobia is hard but you don’t get to pretend to be a woman so it’s easier. He lives in America, not Iran, ffs.
Always the way, they can look feminine when photographed alone, particularly the very wealthy ones who can afford the luxury of cosmetic surgery, good makeup, hair removal, wigs, etc, but the second you see them photographed with women, or see their mannerisms on film, it is almost always immediately clear they have the mannerisms of an effeminate gay man at best, at worst a big bloke role-playing stereotypical coquettish femininity.
 
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This was for a trans specific clothing company but I wonder how long it'll be before designers start replacing young female models with male trans/nb ones - after all, they don't have to worry about them developing those pesky breasts and hips that make female models unemployable.
This is really spot on and I'm seeing this happen elsewhere too.

I know a few of us on here have watched Drag Race. This year's US season has four trans women competing - two of them were already "out" as trans women and had either transitioned or were in the process. Two came out during the season. There have been a couple of trans contestants in the past (you could probably count them on one hand) but this seems like a trend. Attention seeking, even. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about it makes me feel uneasy. Like you're already dressing up as a woman. And now you're doing this as a trans woman? Make it make sense :rolleyes:
 
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This is really spot on and I'm seeing this happen elsewhere too.

I know a few of us on here have watched Drag Race. This year's US season has four trans women competing - two of them were already "out" as trans women and had either transitioned or were in the process. Two came out during the season. There have been a couple of trans contestants in the past (you could probably count them on one hand) but this seems like a trend. Attention seeking, even. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about it makes me feel uneasy. Like you're already dressing up as a woman. And now you're doing this as a trans woman? Make it make sense :rolleyes:
This is from a couple of years ago and is well worth a watch to see the general pressure on female athletes from male coaches and training staff. She ended up becoming ill both physically and mentally. I wonder if you'll see some female athletes (I'm thinking running, swimming and gymnastics) being pressured into mastectomies by coaches/sponsors in the future to make them lighter and faster.

It sounds like a ridiculous idea, but I really wouldn't be surprised if we head down that route.

 
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Tommy knocks me sick tbh. He can be feminine but he just looks ridiculous acting like he’s a woman. Have you seen his massive bleeping feet, hands and jawline? It’s ridiculous and I don’t have sympathy for him. Internalised homophobia is hard but you don’t get to pretend to be a woman so it’s easier. He lives in America, not Iran, ffs.
Tommy was kinda hot as a guy 😅 but there is nothing feminine about him. This over sexualised thing he does on insta is 🤢 desperate to show off his boobs 😩 yuck. Sorry I find it so hard to use she/her pronouns with someone I’ve admired pre trans. Like Eddie Izzard. I literally cannot call him she or her, my brain and mouth won’t let me, it’s just so so wrong (zero admiration for Eddie any more needless to say).
 
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I know a few of us on here have watched Drag Race. This year's US season has four trans women competing - two of them were already "out" as trans women and had either transitioned or were in the process. Two came out during the season. There have been a couple of trans contestants in the past (you could probably count them on one hand) but this seems like a trend. Attention seeking, even. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about it makes me feel uneasy. Like you're already dressing up as a woman. And now you're doing this as a trans woman? Make it make sense :rolleyes:
It sounds ridiculous but I've been in my feels about this since the last episode lol. I feel uneasy about it too! I think because it seems so much more prevalent now. I also want to use the word trend but it just seems more insidious than that. I'm seeing more and more gay men who were once happy being gender non-conforming coming out as trans women. :rolleyes: And who can blame them when the movement talks about women just being "feminine" energy and all that rit.

On the UK vs The World series, I think one of the queens mentioned that having people pay more attention to you and seem to prefer you in drag can really duck with your perceptions, especially during the lows that come after shows. It's not the first time I've heard this from drag queens. Suppose that could be a contributing factor.

Overall, it just seems bleeping tragic.
 
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Woman chose to have breasts removed and be "a man" not only surprised that breastfeeding is now a problem, but somehow blames everyone except the lunatics who peddle the ideology that led her to this result.

Oh and of course the baby is donor milk fed because the gender cult likes to exploit as many women as absolutely possible.

Dont get me started on "seahorse dad".
 

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It's so bizarre that TIFs are only dysphoric when it suits them. So dysphoric they need to cut their breasts off. Not too dysphoric to get pregnant and have the baby suckle their non-existent breast.

There's something extra "off" about Freddy and I can't put my finger on it. I worry for the babies though. They'll be growing up with some bizarre ideas about gender and women for sure...
 
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Freddy is the one who went to court so she could have herself registered as the father on the birth certificate 🙄 Luckily, it failed. But I’m also 🤔 at TIF who think being misgendered or deadnamed is literal violence but yet can do the most female of bodily functions i.e carry a child and give birth.

And you’re not a ‘seahorse dad’, Freddy, you’re a woman. Otherwise you wouldn’t be having this conversation, you narcissistic twerp.
 
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Speaking about women giving birth, Thailand is considering legalising commerical surrogacy for domestic and foreign couples after outlawing it in 2015.


One of the reasons they cite is to reduce the number of babies that are sold on the black market, but legalising it would just make it even easier for the gangs to traffic women as there would be less risk to them doing so.
 
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Can I get something off my chest, because I'm really annoyed at the state of women's healthcare in this country (Ireland).. particularly after my experience today. I hope this is the right thread.

I went to my smear test today. The Irish cervical cancer screening programme has been embroiled with scandal in the past few years as 206 women had developed cervical cancer after having a misdiagnosed CervicalCheck smear test. The misdiagnosis occurred due to our health service outsourcing the reading of the slides to the lowest bleeping bidder, a dodgy network of laboratories in the USA which we were told would be phased out in light of the scandal, with all future testing would be conducted in Ireland (in 2018). Well, today I was told that all samples are being sent to the US because the Irish hospital labs are 'too busy'. I'm now wondering what is the point in doing my smear test, if it's only going to be sent to the US and read incorrectly. All that discomfort for nothing.

Bare in mind this is the same country that:

- Preformed an outdated procedure, symphysiotomies, in place of c-sections up until 1990 because of some Catholic bull. For those who don't know, the procedure involves slicing and sawing through the cartilage and ligaments of the pelvis to widen the birth canal. It is a horrific procedure that caused brutal and life changing injuries.
- Infected pregnant women during the 1980s with hep-c and HIV via Anti-D injections as the blood used to create the Anti-D injection was bought and shipped to Ireland, via the US.. the US blood they brought in was taken from American prisoners/drug addicts

In all of the cases above, the government refused to accept liability or pay compensation to victims until the last 2010s. Now, what do all of these scandals (and subsequent cover-ups) have in common? Is the fact the lying, the gaslighting, the lack of accountability. Well, yes. But the biggest common denominator here is that these are all issues that affected women. If these were scandals that affected men, there would be huge inquiries, pressure on government to issue apologies and compensation immediately. But nope. It affects women, so no-one gives a tit because in the healthcare system - we're just an afterthought.
Sorry about this experience.

Outsource testing to big US companies is also what Scotland want to do ..is a pattern forming?

It sounds ridiculous but I've been in my feels about this since the last episode lol. I feel uneasy about it too! I think because it seems so much more prevalent now. I also want to use the word trend but it just seems more insidious than that. I'm seeing more and more gay men who were once happy being gender non-conforming coming out as trans women. :rolleyes: And who can blame them when the movement talks about women just being "feminine" energy and all that rit.

On the UK vs The World series, I think one of the queens mentioned that having people pay more attention to you and seem to prefer you in drag can really duck with your perceptions, especially during the lows that come after shows. It's not the first time I've heard this from drag queens. Suppose that could be a contributing factor.

Overall, it just seems bleeping tragic.
I'm not really sure how any woman can watch drag race. Men, usually gay, dressing up as caricatures of over sexualised women and putting women down because they want to elevate themselves above women in straight men's eyes. It's disgusting. I have always found drag insulting, (even back to Les Dawson and Kenny Everitt) but this new acceptance of overt and overwhelming misogyny, is revolting and absolutely should not be on mainstream TV.
 
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Sorry about this experience.

Outsource testing to big US companies is also what Scotland want to do ..is a pattern forming?


I'm not really sure how any woman can watch drag race. Men, usually gay, dressing up as caricatures of over sexualised women and putting women down because they want to elevate themselves above women in straight men's eyes. It's disgusting. I have always found drag insulting, (even back to Les Dawson and Kenny Everitt) but this new acceptance of overt and overwhelming misogyny, is revolting and absolutely should not be on mainstream TV.
I agree entirely, I think I said a few threads back how, even as a fairly young girl, I was uncomfortable with drag. This was in the days when it was quite tame, fool Emery, Danny La Rue, etc. Now it’s really awful. Misogynistic caricatures of ‘women’, catty, witchy, piss taking and just generally unpleasant. Why it has been allowed to be pushed into mainstream tv I’ll never know.
 
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I don't know if this has been shared already but a ten year old 'trans girl' walking the catwalk at New York Fashion Week



Regarding the child, they were doomed into transition from the start. I wonder if the brother will remain non-trans. Especially with two trans parents and a potential child star in the making as a sibling.

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This was for a trans specific clothing company but I wonder how long it'll be before designers start replacing young female models with male trans/nb ones - after all, they don't have to worry about them developing those pesky breasts and hips that make female models unemployable.
Hunter Schafer, who acts in Eurphoria is a trans model. It was the preferred look in the 90s, Kate Moss, heroin chic and all those tall super slender young teenage models because the often gay male designers preferred the way the clothes looked on bodies with no womanly shape. Piccioli at Valentino recently sent down a coutour runway of many varying shapes and sizes, including breasts and hips - which is sensible as most coutour wearers are not 16 year old 6 ft size 0s. Karl Lagerfeld would never, but Chanel is now designed by a woman so maybe.
This is really spot on and I'm seeing this happen elsewhere too.

I know a few of us on here have watched Drag Race. This year's US season has four trans women competing - two of them were already "out" as trans women and had either transitioned or were in the process. Two came out during the season. There have been a couple of trans contestants in the past (you could probably count them on one hand) but this seems like a trend. Attention seeking, even. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about it makes me feel uneasy. Like you're already dressing up as a woman. And now you're doing this as a trans woman? Make it make sense :rolleyes:
I think RuPaul absolute hates it but has had to swerve straight in because of being called transphobic in the past and risking being cancelled. I have watched a lot of drag race and I see the misogyny in how they caricature women, the epithet ‘fishy’ absolutely makes me furious. The queens I enjoyed watching were very comfortable with themselves as gay men when not in drag. The older ones who do the shows and mc and pageants (I had no clue about drag pageants) and know the history of drag acts. Sasha Velour was my favourite winner. The younger ones who increasingly come from YouTube and Instagram for doing makeup and are really just witchy and have no talent or humour I have no time for.
I’ve definitely gone off it the more I see that being a woman is actually under threat, 5 years ago it did not feel as aggressive towards women because they were all very clear about dressing in drag not trying to be actual women. They are all 8 ft tall in wigs and heels - it’s insane.
 
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