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Though this does remind me of when I worked in a council department a few years ago - I had to add the Queen onto a database and my then manager literally told me that I couldn't tick the 'female' box because we don't have proof she identifies as a woman :rolleyes:
Cackling at this! Surely by trans standards we would all be VERY aware if we were misgendering her - she wouldn't shut up about it and would be demanding to be called King Elijah!
 
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Oh gosh :( are your acquaintances in support of it?

Have just seen this on reddit. What a vile creature this person's (now ex) fiance is.
Yeah they do this to make it harder for their partners to leave. It's usually done in tandem with emotional abuse (and the self esteem eroding that comes with that) so the partner sticks around. I remember reading one about a man who came out on his honeymoon. These men are, most of the time, manipulative abusers.
 
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OK, I've asked this before. If a bloke identifies as a woman and dresses like a woman etc but has no surgery but legally changes their name and gender on all their official documentation; if said 'woman' develops prostate cancer, surely medical experts will have to say to them ' but as a woman you don't have a prostate so I'm afraid we will not be able to help.' & they subsequently die as a result of their utter delusion. Surely THAT'S one of the logistical conclusions to this absolute bleeping farce? What will the handmaidens have to say about that?
There was a case in Canada ( I think), where a transman who had all documentation as male , had some kidney ( I think) problems. All the tests showed the trans man was within normal ranges for a male but those levels were far too high to be normal for a female The trans man would have died had they not told the drs that they were actually female.
Edit: it was USA and doctors found the uterus when they scanned the transman….apparently they were quite shocked!
 
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Ah yes, Her - the dating app originally designed for lesbians and bisexual women :rolleyes:





It is 'not okay to ask' whether someone is female.

From their community rules (https://weareher.com/community-guidelines/)

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SO bleeping sick of les and bisexual women being policed like this. I'm not attracted to trans-identifying men. It is as simple as that.

Men pull this tit all the time. We've all experienced unwanted attention from a man who refused to accept we aren't attracted to them. It's exactly the same with these trans-identifying men. They can call us transphobic all they like, but it won't change anything. Deal with it.
 
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Jeez thanks for letting me know! I am no monarchist, but jeez. Also though, apparently the only woman who can receive a wish for death from someone on twitter and cause that person to be banned is the Queen. Good to know.

And Grace 100% did this on purpose.
 
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GL started acting out as soon as tickets went on sale. To be honest I’m surprised he chickened out so fast. I thought he’d at least brazen it out for a couple of weeks before flouncing.
 
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Can I get something off my chest, because I'm really annoyed at the state of women's healthcare in this country (Ireland).. particularly after my experience today. I hope this is the right thread.

I went to my smear test today. The Irish cervical cancer screening programme has been embroiled with scandal in the past few years as 206 women had developed cervical cancer after having a misdiagnosed CervicalCheck smear test. The misdiagnosis occurred due to our health service outsourcing the reading of the slides to the lowest bleeping bidder, a dodgy network of laboratories in the USA which we were told would be phased out in light of the scandal, with all future testing would be conducted in Ireland (in 2018). Well, today I was told that all samples are being sent to the US because the Irish hospital labs are 'too busy'. I'm now wondering what is the point in doing my smear test, if it's only going to be sent to the US and read incorrectly. All that discomfort for nothing.

Bare in mind this is the same country that:

- Preformed an outdated procedure, symphysiotomies, in place of c-sections up until 1990 because of some Catholic bull. For those who don't know, the procedure involves slicing and sawing through the cartilage and ligaments of the pelvis to widen the birth canal. It is a horrific procedure that caused brutal and life changing injuries.
- Infected pregnant women during the 1980s with hep-c and HIV via Anti-D injections as the blood used to create the Anti-D injection was bought and shipped to Ireland, via the US.. the US blood they brought in was taken from American prisoners/drug addicts

In all of the cases above, the government refused to accept liability or pay compensation to victims until the last 2010s. Now, what do all of these scandals (and subsequent cover-ups) have in common? Is the fact the lying, the gaslighting, the lack of accountability. Well, yes. But the biggest common denominator here is that these are all issues that affected women. If these were scandals that affected men, there would be huge inquiries, pressure on government to issue apologies and compensation immediately. But nope. It affects women, so no-one gives a tit because in the healthcare system - we're just an afterthought.
 
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That's brilliantly written and so sad. That poor girl went through so much at the hands of this appalling cult.
This is what needs to be out in the mainstream.
Yeah it really made me sad.I'm glad she's in a better place with her mental health now.

Thanks for sharing! I appreciate Hadley and others emphasising that having concerns about Gender Ideology does not mean someone is right-wing.

We've discussed it here before but the increasingly good v evil (or left v right, us v them) discourse on twitter, in politics, and in society really frustrates me.
 
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I don't know if this has been shared already but a ten year old 'trans girl' walking the catwalk at New York Fashion Week



Regarding the child, they were doomed into transition from the start. I wonder if the brother will remain non-trans. Especially with two trans parents and a potential child star in the making as a sibling.

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This was for a trans specific clothing company but I wonder how long it'll be before designers start replacing young female models with male trans/nb ones - after all, they don't have to worry about them developing those pesky breasts and hips that make female models unemployable.
 

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Yeah they do this to make it harder for their partners to leave. It's usually done in tandem with emotional abuse (and the self esteem eroding that comes with that) so the partner sticks around. I remember reading one about a man who came out on his honeymoon. These men are, most of the time, manipulative abusers.
I heard a terrible story about someone we vaguely know - she was with a boyfriend for years, they got engaged and got married and he told her on the honeymoon it was a mistake. Nothing to do with trans but just a man being a crappy coward. Devastating.
 
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I heard a terrible story about someone we vaguely know - she was with a boyfriend for years, they got engaged and got married and he told her on the honeymoon it was a mistake. Nothing to do with trans but just a man being a crappy coward. Devastating.
I know men that would do this. Absolute coward like you say.
 
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It happened to a friend’s stepdaughter - he announced he was trans a few weeks after their wedding. Now he won’t let her be alone with her family - she says she is fine with it but has started having panic attacks and gone really withdrawn.
 
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Tommy Dorfman (the MTF actor) has split from his husband. They got married as two gay guys. It’s hardly surprising his husband doesn’t want to be married with a person who has breasts (he’s taking hormones so obviously going the whole hog). His insta page kinda turns my stomach. His masculine face trying to pose as a sexy woman just makes him look terrifying IMO. I really liked him in 13 reasons why. Interestingly though the statement he made about about splitting with his husband he made it sound like he might like women now? Something about he doesn’t want to be in a male gay relationship. I have heard that taking hormones can do that, which seems wild.

He was an effeminate gay man. Maybe I have picked it up wrong. But I’d imagine it would be difficult for a gay gay to be attracted to a TIM.
 
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Tommy Dorfman (the MTF actor) has split from his husband. They got married as two gay guys. It’s hardly surprising his husband doesn’t want to be married with a person who has breasts (he’s taking hormones so obviously going the whole hog). His insta page kinda turns my stomach. His masculine face trying to pose as a sexy woman just makes him look terrifying IMO. I really liked him in 13 reasons why. Interestingly though the statement he made about about splitting with his husband he made it sound like he might like women now? Something about he doesn’t want to be in a male gay relationship. I have heard that taking hormones can do that, which seems wild.

He was an effeminate gay man. Maybe I have picked it up wrong. But I’d imagine it would be difficult for a gay gay to be attracted to a TIM.
I'm relieved for the husband, I mean, who wants to be stuck with someone who is so "look at meeeee" all the time. Same with Elen Page's ex partner, better of out of there because so much attention is bestowed upon the "trans" person with not much care for the other person left to either accept it or be damned as phobic or at fault. With the celeb trans and non-binary people, it becomes their entire personality and their USP and they get fawned over and worshipped to the point noone can say anything. It's sickening.
 
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Tommy Dorfman (the MTF actor) has split from his husband. They got married as two gay guys. It’s hardly surprising his husband doesn’t want to be married with a person who has breasts (he’s taking hormones so obviously going the whole hog). His insta page kinda turns my stomach. His masculine face trying to pose as a sexy woman just makes him look terrifying IMO. I really liked him in 13 reasons why. Interestingly though the statement he made about about splitting with his husband he made it sound like he might like women now? Something about he doesn’t want to be in a male gay relationship. I have heard that taking hormones can do that, which seems wild.

He was an effeminate gay man. Maybe I have picked it up wrong. But I’d imagine it would be difficult for a gay gay to be attracted to a TIM.
If that's true about the hormones then unless Dorfman was bi all along it really is transing away the gay :(
 
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Tommy Dorfman (the MTF actor) has split from his husband. They got married as two gay guys. It’s hardly surprising his husband doesn’t want to be married with a person who has breasts (he’s taking hormones so obviously going the whole hog). His insta page kinda turns my stomach. His masculine face trying to pose as a sexy woman just makes him look terrifying IMO. I really liked him in 13 reasons why. Interestingly though the statement he made about about splitting with his husband he made it sound like he might like women now? Something about he doesn’t want to be in a male gay relationship. I have heard that taking hormones can do that, which seems wild.

He was an effeminate gay man. Maybe I have picked it up wrong. But I’d imagine it would be difficult for a gay gay to be attracted to a TIM.
It's so hard to know what they actually mean, isn't it? lol. Like, this could mean he's into women but only trans women. Or it could mean he doesn't want to be in a relationship with a gay man (since that invalidates this ~womanhood~) and wants to be with a straight man instead.
 
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I don't know if this has been shared already but a ten year old 'trans girl' walking the catwalk at New York Fashion Week



Regarding the child, they were doomed into transition from the start. I wonder if the brother will remain non-trans. Especially with two trans parents and a potential child star in the making as a sibling.

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This was for a trans specific clothing company but I wonder how long it'll be before designers start replacing young female models with male trans/nb ones - after all, they don't have to worry about them developing those pesky breasts and hips that make female models unemployable.
WTF

I have 3 children and although the youngest is 14 I can still remember (vaguely) their toddler years. For a start the eldest did not start speaking till he was about 3. However they where all filled with the usual toys, animal books, teddies, endless re runs of ice age etc. The only thing we never gave them was toy guns or anything like that.

that child has clearly been primed by their parents to be a trans accessory. It’s telling when they mention the brother he is the one that sounds like an adult. I seriously think they will be ducked up in their 20s
 
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I don't know if this has been shared already but a ten year old 'trans girl' walking the catwalk at New York Fashion Week



Regarding the child, they were doomed into transition from the start. I wonder if the brother will remain non-trans. Especially with two trans parents and a potential child star in the making as a sibling.

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This was for a trans specific clothing company but I wonder how long it'll be before designers start replacing young female models with male trans/nb ones - after all, they don't have to worry about them developing those pesky breasts and hips that make female models unemployable.
Poor child.

I see Fallon Fox also walked that show. Nasty man who enjoys beating women.
 
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