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I imagine in 10 years time there'll be tv adverts about claiming for miss sold gender surgery/hormones
 
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Did you all see this?
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The whole recommend section is a mess, seems he’s blocked most women
It’s sort of just funny at this point, Owen wanting to amplify womens voices. Shame he’s tried to silence so many of them in the past.

Edited to add: I have found a new book to read in the replies though! I already have Dr Jess Taylor’s, and saw Dr Jane Monckton-Smith recommended. Shehas a new book out that looks like a difficult but interesting read. (similarly I’ve found Taylor’s book interesting but also very sad!)


 
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I imagine in 10 years time there'll be tv adverts about claiming for miss sold gender surgery/hormones
It will be a game of hot potato as those involved will stick their necks in the sand

GIDS - It wasn't us! We didn't give you the hormones or do any surgery! Your homophobic parents brought you here!
Endocrinologist - It wasn't me! GIDS told me you would kill yourself!
Surgeon - It wasn't me! I was at the end of a long conveyor belt. But if you are interested in reconstructive breast surgery, here's my number
 
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Bet a lot of TRAs in the UK are desperately scratching their heads to figure out how they can turn discussion back to themselves with the focus being on Sarah Everard and *actual* women at the moment
 
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So I'm into fashion, I take interest in it, I like looking nice....but I have never read anything so vain as this in all my life.

Every person in this reads like the affected spoiled new kid characters in Enid Blyton books. It's insanely #firstworldproblems (oh my god, I'm staying awake at night wondering whether my dungarees today make me a she/they or a he/they and should I update that fact on my insta bio?)

All this marginalisation bull. If all you have to worry about on any given day is whether you feel like a he:she;they:whatever and whether wearing lipstick makes you feel speshul, then bloody hell you’re doing ok in life.

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“…transmasculine non-binary producer in New York, feels that masks have led to misgendering. “I operate from a place of transmasculinity, but I fear being read as a man in public.”

WTF does any of this mean? This is a woman, who thinks they’re a man, who is scared of actually looking like a man in public? Is that what this means? I genuinely feel like I’m on a different plane
 
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All this marginalisation bull. If all you have to worry about on any given day is whether you feel like a he:she;they:whatever and whether wearing lipstick makes you feel speshul, then bloody hell you’re doing ok in life.

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“…transmasculine non-binary producer in New York, feels that masks have led to misgendering. “I operate from a place of transmasculinity, but I fear being read as a man in public.”

WTF does any of this mean? This is a woman, who thinks they’re a man, who is scared of actually looking like a man in public? Is that what this means? I genuinely feel like I’m on a different plane
I think it means they are a self obsessed twit
 
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Bet a lot of TRAs in the UK are desperately scratching their heads to figure out how they can turn discussion back to themselves with the focus being on Sarah Everard and *actual* women at the moment
I have been thinking the same. How long until we’re told that trans women are actually more at risk. A friend of mine posted a list of 80 women who have been murdered by men since Sarah was killed. A list of their names, ages and who murdered them. I couldn’t get over the number. 80 women since March this year. It’s horrifying. The focus will shift though after a few weeks as it always does. The trans movement doesn’t like being out of the spotlight for too long.
 
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Aside from how ridiculous this suggestion is, most bus drivers wouldn't pull up if you weren't at a bus stop anyway. There was a case in my city a few years ago of a young woman trying to catch the last bus home to her town about twenty miles away. She didn't have enough change for the fare, she was just 20p short, no one on the fairly full bus gave her the money and the driver, after a few minutes of her begging to be let off the 20p, insisted she get off the bus. She started to walk and about a mile up the road was dragged on to a park and grape so violently she very nearly died. The person who found her couldn't tell if she was a man or woman she had been so badly beaten. So no, I don't think flagging down a bus would help.
Sorry I'm a bit behind with the thread. But my mum told me a story similar to this and said that because of it bus's and trains have to let lone women travel home at night for free even if they don't have fair. She told me that in the 90s. It sadly sounds like the law either isn't true or not ineffect, because women are still being denied safe transport home and being put at risk.
 
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I have been thinking the same. How long until we’re told that trans women are actually more at risk. A friend of mine posted a list of 80 women who have been murdered by men since Sarah was killed. A list of their names, ages and who murdered them. I couldn’t get over the number. 80 women since March this year. It’s horrifying. The focus will shift though after a few weeks as it always does. The trans movement doesn’t like being out of the spotlight for too long.
this is already happening, even at the vigil the issue that trans women are more at risk etc etc. same with international women's day, we cannot even have a day or a period of mourning to ourselves anymore
 
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C'mon guys. Sarah Everard was AGES ago. Let's think of our trans sisters and unite as cervix havers in snuggling them all in our bosoms, er, I mean chests. THEY ARE THE MOST OPPRESSED AND ATTACKED PEOPLE ON EARTH. #FACT
 
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Response to Laurel Hubbard being awarded NZ sportswoman of the year.
"youre built like a fridge bro" 😂😂

I've seen a lot on tiktok this week about trans women not telling sexual partners that they are transgender. I'm not sure how I feel about this, isn't it classed as sexual assault? And if not why not
 
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Sorry I'm a bit behind with the thread. But my mum told me a story similar to this and said that because of it bus's and trains have to let lone women travel home at night for free even if they don't have fair. She told me that in the 90s. It sadly sounds like the law either isn't true or not ineffect, because women are still being denied safe transport home and being put at risk.
The whole 'ask a bus driver to help' reminded me of this story from a while ago.


"youre built like a fridge bro" 😂😂

I've seen a lot on tiktok this week about trans women not telling sexual partners that they are transgender. I'm not sure how I feel about this, isn't it classed as sexual assault? And if not why not
I actually think if you are fully post op and the other person accepts you as you present, you don't have to disclose anything. I mean, we don't ask people to disclose other information about themselves before a sexual encounter. I think if you are pre-op, you need to be clear.
 
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The whole 'ask a bus driver to help' reminded me of this story from a while ago.



I actually think if you are fully post op and the other person accepts you as you present, you don't have to disclose anything. I mean, we don't ask people to disclose other information about themselves before a sexual encounter. I think if you are pre-op, you need to be clear.
With all due respect, thier genitals are fundamental to penetrative sex and I'd be raging if I was misled
 
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Saw a post from a trans woman I know of earlier. They were saying how they feel so much more like themselves after starting HRT, even though they "had to go private 🙄" and also, "if only HRT would cure the TERFs"

But sure, tell us again that you're not a blatant misogynist and you just want to wear women's skirts and pee in peace.

Notice how it's always women who come under fire from the trans women, and not men.
 
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I actually think if you are fully post op and the other person accepts you as you present, you don't have to disclose anything. I mean, we don't ask people to disclose other information about themselves before a sexual encounter. I think if you are pre-op, you need to be clear.
If a man can't tell the difference between a tina and a cavity best he doesn't impregnate anyone for that stupidly.

tbf i've never searched these conversions but wouldn't believe they work like a womans genitalia
 
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So I'm into fashion, I take interest in it, I like looking nice....but I have never read anything so vain as this in all my life.

Every person in this reads like the affected spoiled new kid characters in Enid Blyton books. It's insanely #firstworldproblems (oh my god, I'm staying awake at night wondering whether my dungarees today make me a she/they or a he/they and should I update that fact on my insta bio?)

“I operate from a place of transmasculinity, but I fear being read as a man in public,” - I’m so confused
 
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Saw a post from a trans woman I know of earlier. They were saying how they feel so much more like themselves after starting HRT, even though they "had to go private 🙄" and also, "if only HRT would cure the TERFs"

But sure, tell us again that you're not a blatant misogynist and you just want to wear women's skirts and pee in peace.

Notice how it's always women who come under fire from the trans women, and not men.
They are so so jealous of women. They hate us
 
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“I operate from a place of transmasculinity, but I fear being read as a man in public,” - I’m so confused
operate from 😂 what does that even mean, pretty sure your body is internally operating as man however you do your hair
 
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