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Webberley is an absolute goon, but actually, more than that, utterly evil. I loathe Hartley Brewer in a lot of ways but hats off to her on her gender critical stance and she certainly handed HW a new hole.
 
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Any mistakes that might be made, could perhaps be fixed , if people are honest enough to admit to them.
There's a very good book called Black Box Thinking that goes into the way the health profession versus the aviation sector deal with mistakes. Due to a culture of blame (and arrogance), the health profession covers things up and issues persist/get worse. Whereas in aviation, there is a culture of accountability. Whenever mistakes are made, they're looked upon as learning opportunities and blame isn't cast, therefore issues are dealt with and improved upon.
 
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Lessons never seem to be learnt because history constantly repeats itself, sick of hearing lessons will be learnt
 
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There's a very good book called Black Box Thinking that goes into the way the health profession versus the aviation sector deal with mistakes. Due to a culture of blame (and arrogance), the health profession covers things up and issues persist/get worse. Whereas in aviation, there is a culture of accountability. Whenever mistakes are made, they're looked upon as learning opportunities and blame isn't cast, therefore issues are dealt with and improved upon.
I've been meaning to read that for a while, thanks for the reminder :)

This aligns with something I've long believed, namely that in the public sector there's a tendency towards shifting blame elsewhere, due to scrutiny of how public funds are used and governmental oversight, whereas there is greater accountability in the private sector as owners/investors do not like losing money.
 
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Yesterday the Amos report into Maternity and Neonatal Services in England was finally published after a series of maternity scandals, where women and babies suffered trauma, prompted an investigation.


Page 1 of the report

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From Annex 1

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Throughout the report, there is reference to ‘women and birthing people’. The only ‘people’ who use maternity services are women. They are trying to justify the use of ‘birthing people’ as a term to be inclusive to the ‘LGBTQIA+’ community but it’s utter bull. Plenty of les women have children and they are not excluded by the term ‘women’. So really it’s about ideological pandering to make sure there is no backlash from TRAs - in a report which focuses on harm experienced by women.
I'm way behind on these threads but I have also come to write about the report as also saw this in the glossary. And "birthing people" appears 101 times

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I'm way behind on these threads but I have also come to write about the report as also saw this in the glossary. And "birthing people" appears 101 times

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I've worked in maternity services in a large, extremely busy and oversubscribed London hospital, for almost two decades. I've met les couples, gay men with surrogate babies, I've seen several babies with probable DSD's, I've met mothers and fathers from every corner of the globe. I've never met a single pregnant transman. Nor have I ever met a transwoman father (I'm tying myself in knots here! 🥴).
This report is so keen to use "inclusive" language, but this is pandering to a tiny, tiny minority of service users. They use terms like "black and Asian women", or the latest favourite, "global majority" (much more accurate). But I've looked after a woman from Alaska. And one who is half Native American. I see lots of women from South American countries, what are their inclusive names?
To paraphrase JKR, if only there was some word to use which includes all of these individuals...🤔🙄
 
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The less than 1% dictates to the rest of us and we have to lie down and take it, when are the rest of society going to wake up and smell the 🐂💩 rather than been ostriches burying their heads in the sand before it’s too late we are all effected by this even if we don’t realise that, everyone can live their life how they see fit but not at the expense of the rest of society, I hope in the future folk will look back and think what the h@ll where we thinking.
 
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Is this another of Naomi Cunningham cases? If so keep going girl and tell the judge to give their head a shake there is a malfunction going on. Can’t believe that clever folk have falling for this 💩
It is, also following on mumsnet. NC pretty disdainful of the judge
 
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I've never met a single pregnant transman. Nor have I ever met a transwoman father (I'm tying myself in knots here! 🥴).
This report is so keen to use "inclusive" language, but this is pandering to a tiny, tiny minority of service users. They use terms like "black and Asian women", or the latest favourite, "global majority"
I'm English speaking and I'm not sure what these terms mean or what the global majority is. I know I can Google them but they are using language that would confuse most people. They're so out of touch with reality.
 
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I'm English speaking and I'm not sure what these terms mean or what the global majority is. I know I can Google them but they are using language that would confuse most people. They're so out of touch with reality.
Instead of calling non-white women "ethnic minorities", they have come up with the more accurate term "global majority", as when combined, the number of women who are ethnically African, Caribbean or Asian, are a majority in the world population. It's important to categorise women correctly in healthcare settings as we know that different ethnicities have different risk factors during their lives, and especially during pregnancy. However, the endlessly changing terminology is all very well, and it's lovely that we aren't offending anyone, but it's not dealing with the actual problems of poorer pregnancy outcomes for black and Asian women.
I can't speak for all women, but I'm guessing that the vast majority of them would rather have good maternity care and midwives who listen to them, than a carefully selected ethnic title.
 
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