Gender Discussion #109

[MaineCoonMama]

This is quite personal but fuck it, I'm in a feral mood.
One of my female cousins died in a motorcycle accident the other day. It was big news where she lived as it shut down a highway for 8 hours.
Another cousin told me there were multiple men on the news article comments making jokes and spouting misogynistic bullshit about women on the roads. You can probably imagine what they were saying. My family managed to get the comments turned off but the damage was already done.

I was warned not to read any articles and I'm so glad I didn't. Hearing the hatred from men second hand was bad enough.

 

[nothanksbabes]

You're quite safe. It's an Internet forum, not North Sentinel Island.

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

I don't wish to alarm anyone but I'm watching Great British Sewing Bee and there doesn't appear to be a non-binary contestant. If there isn't one on the next series of Great Pottery Throwdown, it really is the end of days.

 

[nothanksbabes]

I do remember watching her on Celebrity Big Brother (yes I’m that high brow) about why she opposed lowering the age of consent for gay men. She said something along the lines of there are a lot of predatory men out there - there was no way you could get raising the age of consent to protect girls through parliament but there was a chance of protecting boys by not lowering the age.
No wonder Tatchel hated her!

This is what I mean when I say she reached her conclusions in a way I can understand even where I disagree. I don't think she thought the age of consent should be 16 for anyone. And the reality is that sexual activity between teenagers of the same age wasn't actively criminialised even if the age of consent was higher. And when I heard her speak, it always seemed like she'd be willing to alter her opinion given new evidence.

I can't believe at the age of 40 I'm defending Ann Widdecomb. I've never voted Conservative in my life. But, I miss the days of politics where people could have a view and express it and someone else object and express there view and it didn't descend into hyperbolic screeching and online mob nonsense.

 

[Metropolis]

JK Rocks

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

This is how the BBC are choosing to report the Darlington nurses’ victory: as a ‘trans’ changing room case, rather than a FEMALE changing room violation.

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Quoting myself to add that I’ve submitted a complaint, as follows:

The headline for this article states that it was a ‘trans changing room tribunal’. This is intentionally misleading. The case related to a trans-identified biological male using the female changing room. There is no ‘trans changing room’ at that hospital. If there was, female nurses would not have raised concerns about a biologically male person accessing the female (i.e. single sex) changing room.
You know this. Everyone who has followed the case knows this, but you intentionally published the article under an inaccurate headline. Why?

Let’s see if they deign to grace me with anything other than a boilerplate response.

 

[maytoseptember]

Pleasantly surprised to see this lovely tribute from Buttergasp of all people. Just goes to show that those who knew Ann in private found her to be a kind and decent woman, despite their differing political views. Saw an equally respectful tribute from George Galloway as well. A far cry from all the leftists on social media saying “rest in piss, evil witch” and worse.

 

[maytoseptember]

Apropos of nothing (this is a lie ) can I just say how jarring it is, to encounter people outside of the Gender threads, who refuse to accept that men and women aren’t exactly the same, and don’t have exactly the same instincts and drivers throughout their lives, and don’t have exactly the same propensity to violence or crime? And when you try to point this out, they are confused and rather horror struck?

As you were.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

The poster who was harping on about JK and Camilla does the same kind of thing on other threads, she doubles down and twists words and will not ever admit she might be wrong then gets upset that people are 'piling on.'
I really don't think she's a bad person, she just can't handle being told she's wrong.

I tried to explain the beginning of the KKK to her a while ago (American Civil War and Reconstruction are subjects I'm very interested in) and she straight up said no, you're wrong when I definitely knew what I was talking about.

Anyway it backfired and it's comforting to know the tide has really turned, at least on Tattle.

 

[Scotch Mist]

It's horrific that Ann has been murdered
Iain Dale replied this to Tatchell:

'I will curb my language but that tweet is disgusting. You profess to be an advocate of human rights, and the right to be treated with dignity after death is a basic human right everyone should have, yet you rejoice in her death. Yes, her religion guided her views on equality issues, and I had many disagreements with her, but as a gay man I counted her as a friend, as did many others. She was actually a profoundly kind person. She endorsed my candidacy knowing of my sexuality. She softened her views on equal marriage and told me in 2019 she would not support reversing it.
So be ashamed of yourself today, Peter.'

 

[Funny_bunny]

Two excellent posts on X this morning, showing the misogyny of the TRA.

 

[NeverEnough]

I wonder how much medication this would have funded? How many extra nurses? All for one man’s delusion.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

We all know it's true.

 

[Not Now Bernard]

Peter Tatchell’s hard drive surely needs looking at. The man is odious.

I do remember watching her on Celebrity Big Brother (yes I’m that high brow) about why she opposed lowering the age of consent for gay men. She said something along the lines of there are a lot of predatory men out there - there was no way you could get raising the age of consent to protect girls through parliament but there was a chance of protecting boys by not lowering the age.
No wonder Tatchel hated her!

 

[MaineCoonMama]

My phone isn't letting me tag her for some reason but I loved this post on the Ann Widdecombe thread.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

I found this thread thinking it was a safe space for trans persons. Guess not

You're welcome to stay and discuss why we have the opinions we do, we've had many come through and end up changing their minds.
If you don't feel comfortable here that's also fine, I think there might be a thread somewhere for trans and trans adjacent posters but I have no idea what it's called.

 

[Vanelope]

There are those who practice Islam who don’t cover their face or hair at all. It’s a very specific form that mandates the full coverage and it’s from cultures that despise women, we should not allow it in the UK or kids to wear it in schools it is not compatible with our values of equal rights for women. That is an equal right to be seen and heard and valued. Not to be hidden away.

Also agree that the idea that they must cover to not tempt the men just implies that men in those cultures are basically criminals who have to be stopped.

 

[Dinate]

I hope that the rest of the NHS and other public bodies are taking note.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

She definitely knows the difference between men and women. When she headbutts my husband she's quite rough but when I m playing with her she holds back a lot.
Funny that.

For a minute there, I thought this was about Ann Widdicombe

 

[CariettaWhite]

Wow thanks for the kind words!

I’m such a live-and-let-live, non-confrontational type it’s untrue. There are very few issues I have strong opinions about but this one enrages me.

The tide is turning though. I think it was Helen Joyce who pointed out that the more people learn about it, the less they like it. The more the tr@nnies froth and threaten, the more they show themselves up. Let them speak!