Gender Discussion #105

[Miss Ophelia]

This entire production is going to be shyte from start to finish.

Probably trying to ride on the tailcoat of Six with that Dylan or whatever he is called 🤍

 

[IngressUK]

Just seen this opinion column moaning about the Guide decision

https://www.archive.is/https://www....JnrSyf_yzq_brkFlSX_aem_V5WL-4_NaoKtoG_AiYP34Q

The Guardian.

Why am I not surprised at all! They are totally Trans captured.

 

[Seagreen]

I (mid 30s) strongly suspect I have some form of it because I have been struggling a lot with how I process things and my interpersonal relationships etc. I've hit a wall mentally, emotionally, and I have always been what I consider a bit quirky but actually I stim a lot when I get home, after a day at work or being outside. Reading about masking rings all the bells, and struggles I had at school and in my personal life make sense in light of the realisation. It's not wanting a label to be cool, I genuinely have struggled and beat myself up over the years. I was well behaved at school so I was ignored. It was a shitty school that had behavioural/respect problems so others' educational needs got swept under the carpet because staff were fighting fire all the time. I got to my final year at uni before I broke down because I was struggling to cope with the course. Only then did I get an assessment for dyslexia that found I had significant issues with my working memory that affected my coursework. This was like 18 years ago.

The problem I find is that especially for girls, is if you are well behaved and do your homework and don't cause trouble your learning difficulties or ADHD or Autism traits are missed. School was so loud amd stressful amd I would come home and basically sit and rock in my bedroom and scratch my scalp to ribbons and it would take ages for my brain to calm after the day. My parents put it down to stress but never got me seen to.

Now, I recognise the same thing when work has been bad. My mind races all the way home and I have to fidget and sing (like bizarre selective vocal tics that embarrass me) and decompress when I get home. But I don't do any of that (except fidget with my hands) at work. It's that I have learned to mask and come home and take time to let it all out.

This past year I've seen videos of folk doing the same and talking about their traits and I'm like this...is me... It feels like a revelation.

But I got through school and I hold down a job so on the one hand I don't want to pay for a private diagnosis when I can 'function', equally I don't want to queue up for an NHS diagnosis because I'd feel guilty. I have always felt guilty about taking up space in life and have poor feelings of self worth, but I also feel very black and white about justice things. Like the whole gender ideology issue matters because my brain hurts that this blatant lie (TWAW) is being inflicted on us.

I may still seek a diagnosis in the future when I can convince myself I deserve to be seen, but I definitely know have something because my whole life experiences point to it and I am so tired about everything.

It actually hurts my very soul and brain when people try to lie about the immutability of sex because we all can see and know it's biological fact.

Also to add I think my Dad is very much on the spectrum as his behaviours and quirks ring many bells. So I reckon it's always been in many families it's just only being understood very recently.

Another one here, holds hand up. I self diagnosed about 5 years ago and it was a revelation, immediate lifting of the feeling that I have had all my life of being wrong. I have so obviously been " masking" all of my life and it has got so bad now that I am in my sixties that I collapse with mental exhaustion after the most simple of social occasions with the effort of having to be seen as normal.

I won't seek a diagnosis, I am happy to know what I have (I think of it as Asperger's) but we can see signs in the kids and knowledge and acceptance at home will hopefully see them navigate through life being more at ease with themselves than I have ever been.

I find it difficult, nigh on impossible, to comprehend how anyone can believe any of the ideology behind trans.

 

[IngressUK]

I absolutely detest Fry and his fake humility and desperate clawing for status of an intellectual but mainly because of his hatred of women. Makes me want to punch his bent nose back into shape.

His TV career is currently in JEOPARDY!

That show has been axed after two series. What a crying shame. Not!

He was hardly a charismatic game show host, but a crashing bore to watch and listen to.

 

[Notworthy]

I've been leaning towards the view that no athlete with a Y chromosome should be allowed to compete with women. I understand that people with CAIS are a special case but a better solution would be to find a fair way for them to compete rather than including them with XX women.

I'm still very uneasy about Lin Yu-Ting being included in the women's team. It's been confirmed he has XY chromosomes but I've not head that he has CAIS.

Nobody has a right to compete in professional sport.
I will concede that someone with CAIS could play with and against Women at amateur level but at the very pinnacle of sport, fine margins mean the difference between gold and nothing, or a place in the team or in a final so, on that basis, no to CAIS.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Oh dear, how sad, never mind!

Nike on its last legs as stock price plummets after woke push blows up in its face

But surely all the tr4nnies and their supporters buying Nike more than make up for the huge percentage of the worldwide makret they've lost from normal customers?

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

*Hides stupid fucking sweary face*

I love your stupid fucking sweary face! We almost all have one on here because it's often the only place many of us can vent.

And I'll bet you don't give vent to your stupid fucking sweary emotions around little children either.

 

[People-huv-tae-know]

It’s bad for the environment because to gather information from a huge range of sources and synthesise it into a single response needs a massive amount of computer power. Data centres (where info on the cloud is stored) produce tons of heat, need a load of water to keep them cool and are very electricity hungry. The UK is upgrading the electricity network and building battery storage plants and solar power plants everywhere because Starmer wants to cover the remaining countryside in data centres to make the UK into a global AI hub.

Aren't those the batteries that if they catch fire, they are almost impossible to extinguish? I hate what or governments are doing to the countryside so much. They are killing it for money.

 

[Mugglewump]

Wonder if it's Dad, Mum or someone else who taught the boy abusive tactics to get his own way.

The Mum is never mentioned

 

[DoraMaar]

 

[Peter Out]

Welcome! We love men commenting on this thread, and there are a few. It's great to get a male point of view. Please comment more often!

Thank you.

 

[JAR21]

Caster Semenya looks and comes across like a fine specimen of a man.

Well, maybe not so fine!

 

[chocwaffle]

I can’t understand why women and men but especially women join unison as from personal experience they are happy to take the funds but do sweet fa about the problems they should be sorting out omo

I’m a very reluctant member as I’m a mum to a disabled daughter and wanted some semblance of backing if shit hit the fan and work were difficult about the flexibility I need. I have been very fortunate that my work are fab and think I will be cancelling my membership soon anyway.

 

[Peter Out]

One of the reasons for including sex scenes in TV/film is that "everybody does it". The same could be said for going to the loo, but we thankfully don't need to see that!
Although if things keep going the way they are, we'll soon be getting that as well. (I understand that there are men who enjoy that - Lord Boothby types).
Another agreement on older television and cinema here.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Looks like Lurch

That's EXACTLY what I thought.

If Lurch had a mentally deranged cousin, this would be him.

 

[threeSMEGfridges]

I think for me this is the most shocking transformation of someone in the public eye because they just look and sound so different.
Asia Kate Dillon had what I thought was quite a nice voice and dressed in a cool androgynous way with a shaved head and messy eyeliner.


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In 2023 Asia started taking testosterone and the change in such a short time is quite significant.


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Facially Asia looks so different that at first I did a double take and then the voice has changed completely. I watched Asia in Orange is the New Black and saw a few clips of Billions. Was wondering what they were up to so googled last night and bam!

With Elliot Page I swear the difference isn’t this stark? With the voice Elliot has, it still has some resemblance to Ellen’s I think?

some transmen favour the young boy/anime teen aesthetic so only take enough T to masculine into a 16 year old boy...

 

[Peachsquish]

Breaking News!

Trans must leave Girl Guides by 6th September...

(Sun article - only source of this news so far)

Verifying Device

Common sense starting to occur at last?

From official update to volunteers

 

[Metropolis]

I agree.

Isn't it strange the same demands are not being mads at Cub Scouts. Only for Girl Guiding to be more inclusive.

It is another case of female based groups being forced to accommodate the madness.

I guess it’s because cubs and scouts has been mixed-sex for nearly 20 years, so a girl declaring she was a boy would already be welcome. Guiding has always maintained it’s an organisation just for girls.

 

[Miss Ophelia]

Just spotted this on Reddit...

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Zoom up closer and you'll spot the faint facial hair.

It is clearly a Troon trying to make a point of being in the ladies toilet.

They claim the image is to prove they have been in a certain pub, but how the fuck is being in some toilets supposed to prove that.

It is just another case of 'I'm in the ladies toilets because I can.'

Why is this taken so long to be made law and people adhere to it 🤍

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

I think you're right. I'm not sure if I saw somewhere that Terry Pratchett's daughter is, too, but I may wrong about that.

I think she’s an ally. She’s never going to live down giving Jack Monroe cash and cred for the Vimes Boots Index so I feel a bit sorry for her