Gender Discussion #105

[IngressUK]

More evidence of needed that trans ideology hates women. Just scrolling through X, and these are the first things I see.

The Unison idiot is like a parrot. He has absolutely nothing no say.

Why would same sex attracted women want to include creepy men in their dating sites?

To respond to this:

1) Yes, the Unison guy is an utter head (sorry for the language but that is what he is).

It is usual scenario of 'we are always right' and therefore there is 'no debate' on the subject.

The parroting of 'Trans rights are Human Rights' and 'Trans women are women' is just so utterly predictable and cringe from these idiots.

They really have nothing constructive to say, even when bang to rights.

That guy is clearly a misogynistic twit in his response to a serious question and the way he speaks to the interviewer.

2) Trans can seemingly get away with having their own groups and events that do not feature anyone else in LGB communities. No one seems to bat an eyelid.

Yet when LGB attempt to do the same, they are brandished with the usual 'Transphobe' crap.

I just wish these idiots would just F*** right off.

 

[funkimunki1984]

Only white 'cis' women though. Be very careful to blame the ones everyone already hates. bleeping lunatic. Plenty of black women think women are allowed single sex spaces and sports. In fact in the good old US of A the loudest women against this tit are black.

I refuse to be called cis as that’s not my pronoun. My bleeping pronoun is woman. I’m not falling into their belief.

And only white women when it’s usually women of colour who are the ones that hate it more (due to religion mainly). Where I live in the US I am friends with some lovely African nurses who tell me that they find it difficult having TIMs pretending to be women, that it’s blatantly obvious they’re not but because it’s an “arty” city people are far more accepting of it. They don’t take prisoners and call them men to their face lol

 

[chocwaffle]

Unison couldn’t even get through an IWD email without making it about the trans agenda.

 

[Miss Ophelia]

Unison couldn’t even get through an IWD email without making it about the trans agenda.

I can’t understand why women and men but especially women join unison as from personal experience they are happy to take the funds but do sweet fa about the problems they should be sorting out omo

 

[JAR21]

Article on the over diagnosis of autism

https://archive.ph/aR3UG

I've spent 25 years treating patients with autism. This is the truth about the condition that many people don't want to hear: DR MAX PEMBERTON

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Article on the over diagnosis of autism

https://archive.ph/aR3UG

I've spent 25 years treating patients with autism. This is the truth about the condition that many people don't want to hear: DR MAX PEMBERTON

I've felt this for donkey's ages.

Over-diagnosis, limited funds - genuine sufferers pushed to the back of the queue

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Article on the over diagnosis of autism

https://archive.ph/aR3UG

I've spent 25 years treating patients with autism. This is the truth about the condition that many people don't want to hear: DR MAX PEMBERTON

Well this makes me incredibly sad. My youngest has just been diagnosed with autism and ADHD - we have suspected it for years and had to seek a private diagnosis because he wanted to know before he goes to uni so that he can access support if needed. Nice to know that he's fine and doesn't have any struggles.

My mother is most likely autistic and I've struggled most of my life with feelings of alienation and confusion about my place in the world. So yeah, maybe more girls and middle aged women are getting diagnosed but I guarantee there's also a whole heap who aren't going down the diagnosis route because it's not even on their radar even though they've struggled their entire lives.

Sorry, I kinda take this one personally

 

[DoraMaar]

 

[JAR21]

I thought the Lib Dems were captured?

 

[maytoseptember]

Well this makes me incredibly sad. My youngest has just been diagnosed with autism and ADHD - we have suspected it for years and had to seek a private diagnosis because he wanted to know before he goes to uni so that he can access support if needed. Nice to know that he's fine and doesn't have any struggles.

My mother is most likely autistic and I've struggled most of my life with feelings of alienation and confusion about my place in the world. So yeah, maybe more girls and middle aged women are getting diagnosed but I guarantee there's also a whole heap who aren't going down the diagnosis route because it's not even on their radar even though they've struggled their entire lives.

Sorry, I kinda take this one personally

You’re not alone. My kids are autistic, I am clearly autistic, my mum has a lot of traits, as did my grandfather before her. Four generations, only my kids officially diagnosed.

This week I’ve seen a lot of maliciously gleeful comments about how the only REAL autism is profound autism, and anyone else is either a faker or a malingerer, essentially.

Well excuse me if I didn’t personally ask for Asperger’s (formerly a separate and very distinct category) to be lumped in under the umbrella term ASD. And spare me the “Asperger was a Nazi” stuff. That should have paid no part in erasing a very real profile of autism. Rename it if you like, just don’t erase it, because erasing it doesn’t mean these people don’t exist (and continue to be born!)

According to the likes of Dr Ute, any woman who managed to evade getting diagnosed well into adulthood never needed a diagnosis, because if you can present yourself well enough to fly under the radar, you can’t be on the spectrum. This is crazy to me. Dr Ute clearly has very little idea of how blatant my autistic traits have always been, right back to very early childhood. The fact it was never recognised is no fault of mine.

 

[Funny_bunny]

WTAF is this creepy looking dude trying to prove other than he looks in every way like a man. A bloody creepy one at that. They’re always so repulsive.

 

[Red80's]

WTAF is this creepy looking dude trying to prove other than he looks in every way like a man. A bloody creepy one at that. They’re always so repulsive.

Look at where he's got his hand.

 

[Milliemoo99]

Well this makes me incredibly sad. My youngest has just been diagnosed with autism and ADHD - we have suspected it for years and had to seek a private diagnosis because he wanted to know before he goes to uni so that he can access support if needed. Nice to know that he's fine and doesn't have any struggles.

My mother is most likely autistic and I've struggled most of my life with feelings of alienation and confusion about my place in the world. So yeah, maybe more girls and middle aged women are getting diagnosed but I guarantee there's also a whole heap who aren't going down the diagnosis route because it's not even on their radar even though they've struggled their entire lives.

Sorry, I kinda take this one personally

I feel for your son.

Im not sure though that he is necessarily autistic, in the definition of children diagnosed almost at birth, who are non verbal and have massive difficulties in basic social interactions. If you've ever worked with 'severely' autistic children, its not a diagnosis very many parents want to hear. Children and adults with Aspergers are also noticeable for standing out, and being ''different'' to the majority. Personally Ive never thought that autistic children are that capable of masking. They dont understand the social norms, or are able to operate within them, well enough to be able to mask. And I have worked with non verbal autistic girls, who also were diagnosed early.

However Im sure you are right, and that your son does have specific issues that need additional support, and feel that we currently have so many issues in education and wider, because things like the curriculum and exams have become so 'streamlined' ie designed to be easily assessed and fit into easily understood boxes, so that government funding and agencies like OFSTEd can make simple judgements and assessments.

But very few children and adults fit these boxes, so they find education, and exams and assessments hard, because they are different and have differing needs that the system isnt set up to cater for.

I couldnt have learnt at school within the current system and curriculum. And I would have been classified as a more able learner, when I was actually at school.
My attention span is limited and if I dont find a subject interesting I just switch off. So if I was at school now, I would be in a daydream and staring out of the window, at the repetition and need to fit specific boxes! And get cross and frustrated with what I felt was a waste of my time!!

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

You’re not alone. My kids are autistic, I am clearly autistic, my mum has a lot of traits, as did my grandfather before her. Four generations, only my kids officially diagnosed.

This week I’ve seen a lot of maliciously gleeful comments about how the only REAL autism is profound autism, and anyone else is either a faker or a malingerer, essentially.

Well excuse me if I didn’t personally ask for Asperger’s (formerly a separate and very distinct category) to be lumped in under the umbrella term ASD. And spare me the “Asperger was a Nazi” stuff. That should have paid no part in erasing a very real profile of autism. Rename it if you like, just don’t erase it, because erasing it doesn’t mean these people don’t exist (and continue to be born!)

According to the likes of Dr Ute, any woman who managed to evade getting diagnosed well into adulthood never needed a diagnosis, because if you can present yourself well enough to fly under the radar, you can’t be on the spectrum. This is crazy to me. Dr Ute clearly has very little idea of how blatant my autistic traits have always been, right back to very early childhood. The fact it was never recognised is no fault of mine.

I agree with you both but also with the doctors

My son is autistic. He was clearly autistic from a very young age and was (and still is) very much not like the other kids. He‘s always been in mainstream and has been on the SEN register since reception. Waiting lists meant he didn’t get a DX until he was in year 6 tho. He has had DLA since he was 8 and now gets PIP. He’s academically clever but can’t plan anything, can’t tie his shoelaces, read a clock or understand implications of anything. Social anxiety is a tiny, tiny part of his disability.

I had this discussion with some friends yesterday who are all really angry about Uta Frith (although they’re not calling her a nazi). They‘ve dismissed her as an old woman who is behind the curve. I think this is patronising and hugely reductive. We need to be able to have a conversation.

Some of my friends‘ kids don’t go to school but go to massive gigs, parties, raves and pretty much seem like normal teenagers except for the fact they are too anxious to go to school. I don’t believe they’re autistic. I think they’re just playing their parents and the system.

There are huge numbers of people who are self identifying as autistic when they’re not. They’re just a bit boring/odd/not popular at school.

If the breadth of a DX is so broad then it really undermines people who really do struggle. And my heart goes out to you and @Mismatched Pegs

 

[Vanelope]

Local knitting shop has now put up a poster for some group called not in our name which is ‘women supporting trans’ what in the handmaiden tit is this???



Also learned that Ravelry became captured because one of the co-owners, a married couple, decided to trans (of course the man).

 

[Tofino]

The charity Family Fund sent out a survey…

I basically wrote we don’t have a gender, we have a biological sex. Gender identity ideology is harmful.

And I don’t tell them our sex either because then they might just include it in the gender category.

 

[maytoseptember]

I agree with you both but also with the doctors

My son is autistic. He was clearly autistic from a very young age and was (and still is) very much not like the other kids. He‘s always been in mainstream and has been on the SEN register since reception. Waiting lists meant he didn’t get a DX until he was in year 6 tho. He has had DLA since he was 8 and now gets PIP. He’s academically clever but can’t plan anything, can’t tie his shoelaces, read a clock or understand implications of anything. Social anxiety is a tiny, tiny part of his disability.

I had this discussion with some friends yesterday who are all really angry about Uta Frith (although they’re not calling her a nazi). They‘ve dismissed her as an old woman who is behind the curve. I think this is patronising and hugely reductive. We need to be able to have a conversation.

Some of my friends‘ kids don’t go to school but go to massive gigs, parties, raves and pretty much seem like normal teenagers except for the fact they are too anxious to go to school. I don’t believe they’re autistic. I think they’re just playing their parents and the system.

There are huge numbers of people who are self identifying as autistic when they’re not. They’re just a bit boring/odd/not popular at school.

If the breadth of a DX is so broad then it really undermines people who really do struggle. And my heart goes out to you and @Mismatched Pegs

I agree with loads of what you say too. It’s so complex and murky isn’t it?

One problem with the autism spectrum being so wide is that it incorporates a lot of things that aren’t actually autism. So you’ll see kids with Down’s Syndrome with an additional diagnosis of autism (I would argue that their “autistic traits” are simply because they have a learning disability), kids with foetal alcohol syndrome who are instead diagnosed with autism/ADHD, kids with other undiagnosed genetic conditions (including severe epilepsy) who only have a diagnosis of autism.

There’s definitely been a lot of lazy diagnosing going on the past 15 or so years. Private practitioners taking advantage of massive NHS waiting times but aren’t being very thorough with their assessments.

And yes, a lot of piss takers.

I wish more people would talk about these demographics taking away from genuine autistics in need, rather than low support needs autistics being the problem.

 

[Metropolis]

Well this autism conversation is close to home for me. Four of my household have an (NHS) diagnosis. My youngest was diagnosed at 3 and it’s bloody hard, constant fighting for appropriate educational provision and DLA/PIP. No one who is not living with it day in and day out can understand the impact IMO.

My older 2 (now young adults) who are more Asperger’s profile are embarrassed about it and never tell anyone (though people tend to assume anyway). On paper they are incredibly bright, but struggle socially and organisationally. They hate the way ASD is being co-opted as kind of trendy. At one of my son’s universities, there was a whole autism pride day where people were encouraged to wear rainbow bloody badges (rainbow as in spectrum). It made him cringe so much, he never mentioned his diagnosis to anyone, even though it would have benefited his tutors to know why he struggled so much to talk in seminars.

ETA on the plus side, they hate things being misrepresented and are very factual so have no truck with the trans rit

 

[Princess She-Ra]

The thing that never happens has happened again. Those poor girls.

Trans rapist who 'robbed' girls of innocence jailed for nine years

Serenity Francis Johnston, 34, was found guilty of assaulting three children in Livingston between 2006 and 2012.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ObservO]

Not jailed for long enough though given that the surgeon must have been terrified of the weirdo.
He was given:
"14 months and ordered her to pay a £187 victim surcharge."
That's nothing for years of abuse!

Also has to be said he's really bleeping weird!

True it's nothing but this violent man is a marked man now, it's not easy to get a custodial sentence these days.