Gary Lineker

[wearedoomed]

If you sign a contract with the BBC for millions of pounds and are then in breach of that, you can expect to be told as such. You can’t sit on your big pile of cash and still expect to be able to say what you like.

Lineker swapped freedom of speech for lots of money when he signed on the dotted line. As he now clearly has a crisis of conscience, he should be happy to hand all that money back.

For context I think all politicians are self serving twats, especially the current lot. And I couldn’t give two shits about football.

 

[Jen667]

This is very good at explaining why it's inappropriate, insensitive (and hurtful) to make any reference to Nazi Germany.

Gary Lineker doesn't understand the Holocaust

It’s like clockwork. Every few months the government announces a new plan to tighten immigration policy and then, within seconds, you find ‘1930s Germany’ trending on Twitter. From the moment a picture of the Prime Minister’s flashy ‘Stop the Boats’ podium emerged, it became obvious what the...

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[Rose28454]

My son ( a Tottenham season ticket holder ) and my son-in-law ( a Man U fan ) and his brother ( a Liverpool fan ) are all available tommorow evening!!

 

[sensibility]

Left leaning people think the BBC is horribly right wing. Right leaning people think they're horribly left wing.

I've never seen any 'obvious' right wing bias on QT. There are some weeks where the audience appear to be more right/left leaning than others, but that's down to the demographic of the region they're in. I think Fiona Bruce does a good job.

And the only reason anyone has the political views they have is because of where they have grown up. Politics in this day and age is so polarising and the conservatives and the labour party will essentially always take the opposite view of each other to appease their electorate. There needs to be a political revolution where we can leave the past in the past and all move on together, otherwise we will all be arguing over the same shite for generations.

 

[Baby Giraffe]

Some facts for you mcomics,

This country takes far fewer asylum seekers. It is the slowest and least efficient country in Europe at assessing claims!

Most asylum seekers have their claims upheld!

Most criminal gangs live on the uk, not abroad,
and the authorities know this, but have never tried to prosecute them.
This country would be completely fucked if it wasn’t for immigrants!

I’m not a football fan, but Gary linneker is spot on about this nasty government and it’s use of language.
Actually glad this has happened, as it’s shone a light on the toxic BBC!
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Oh, and because it seems to be repeated ad nauseum ,- there is absolutely no legal requirement to claim asylum in the first ‘safe’ country that you teach.

You can claim asylum anywhere!
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Oh, and because it seems to be repeated ad nauseum ,- there is absolutely no legal requirement to claim asylum in the first ‘safe’ country that you teach.

You can claim asylum anywhere!

Exactly. Plus Gary (who I personally find annoyingly smug in general) didn’t say that it was like Nazi Germany he said that the language is similar. His comment was valid, he didn’t make it at work and it in no way brings his employer into disrepute. I am pleasantly surprised by the united stand, it’s about time.

 

[PeteM]

It's certainly a good timing for him to demonstrate that he's not a BBC employee by not having to adhere to their standard and then not pay HMRC the £4.9 million they claim he owes.

Well he's fair game for being to task over that.

But how anyone can have an issue with him being a vocal opponent of the "Stop The Boats" campaign is beyond me.

 

[L3moning]

All these saying keep politics out of football would have no issue if he repeated the right wing rhetoric.

Well exactly.

 

[Gym&Tonic]

The BBC have backed down and Lineker will be back on MOTD this weekend. The good news is that this is sending Nigel Farage and co into an epic meltdown on social media Freedom of speech guys

 

[Jaynefnw]

This is just misinformation and the kind of thing the government wants everyone to believe. I deal with a lot of asylum seekers and refugees and they don't receive £40+ a week in hotels, it's maximum £7 regardless of how long they have been there.
Yes they have access to NHS and dentists but they have to wait the same as everyone else there's no VIP, if a hotel has a GP visiting that's an arrangement they've made themselves it's definitely not all.
Some will work illegally which I don't agree with but if found it can affect their asylum claim and the HO has ability to raid businesses it suspects of using illegal workforce. Once someone has been seeking asylum for more than a year without any answer (which is a massive issue in itself, some people have been waiting 2-3 years for a decision meaning more pressure on resources when they could possibly be working and contributing to society) they can ask for work permission which is a lottery on who is given this, but they can only do work which is on the shortage list most of which is highly skilled work making the whole thing pointless, especially when there are low skilled jobs they could be doing and if people are working illegally willing to.
They are not given free phones upon arrival, there was recently an issue where the HO had illegally confiscated phones and personal items people had arrived with, phones which was the only way they could let loved ones know they were safe. Any phones, clothes etc. they get via charities.

Of course there will be people who abuse the system but the system is an absolute joke which is how the government wants it as it makes it easier to blame asylum seekers for their failures, the same way it used to be those on benefits they would blame, single mothers etc. anyone who it's easy to look down on and attack.

They do receive £40 .84. I believe, not sure what area of the country you work in but they do get a free phone in the area I am in and my son works in, they also get a free travel card for public transport which it topped up. I certainly don't watch MSM or believe everything the government tell me especially after seeing during all the lockdowns while we were all confined to our homes, the asylum seekers weren't as it was against their human rights . .so no I don't believe any mis information the MP/government or telly/news presenters, you claim are telling us, I go by watching how my family member deals with the issues he has to deal with in his line of work with these individuals.

 

[Baby Giraffe]

Well no, you can't poll every Jew in the world but it is widely accepted that comparisons to the the holocaust are generally a bad idea.

That’s exactly what I mean about him being misquoted. He didn’t compare with the holocaust, he compared the tone of language at that time which is unfortunately very true even though the resulting actions aren’t. These things do need calling out. If he’d actually compared with the holocaust (in the way people did about lockdowns) then it would be very different.
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That's just semantics though. He's clearly referring to Nazi Germany's treatment of jews

No he wasn’t

 

[265]

Amazing what a comment can do, it's caused utter chaos, it escalated very quickly.

 

[Behtannkneeky]

Anyone sick of hearing about him? Never liked him anyway, he's always carried a certain smugness about him.

Unfortunately I think the attention from this is only gonna boost that ego of his!!

 

[ordinaryjelly]

MoTD last night was right weird.

I think the treatment of Lineker has been disgusting and it has been heartening to see all the other pundits and PFA come out in support of him.

Andrew O'Neil was allowed to peddle his political opinions on air via the BBC for years and years. One tweet from Lineker that questions the Government and all the Tory shills at the top of the corporation wet their beds.

Glad I don't pay a licence fee.

 

[Ndrangheta]

So why shouldn't Gary Lineker be free to express his opinion?

With great power comes great responsibility. Sounds a bit ridiculous in reference to Lineker but I nearly fell off my seat when I heard he had 8 million followers on Twatter! I think my main problem is with Twitter ... it just doesn't seem a healthy way discuss important issues. I wish Gary had written a well-reasoned articulate od-ep piece in The Telegraph or something. I realise that's not how 'things' work these days. I'm really not that bothered ... I still read long-form essays and shit, I need to move with the times and live on soundbites. Still it's nice to rant and rave here because I know only about 8, not 8 million, people will read it! (Oh and I can't stand Lineker personality wise ... so that clouds my judgement a bit I admit).

 

[Spid]

I have no kids, I use private healthcare including dentist and get my bins emptied once in a blue moon.

More than happy for my salary deductions to go towards someone seeking asylum seen as though I'm not getting much out of it

Same except I send the kids to private.

We fund plenty of scroungers who do naff all on the council estates as it is. Don't mind chipping in to help asylum seekers

 

[Bolus]

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Count yourself lucky that you are not impacted by the 'mass immigration'. If you were refused treatment at an NHS hospital and given the reason that there were a 100 immigrants just off the dinghies being treated before you, it may be a different story. Similiarly when a wedding or celebration at a hotel is cancelled due to the four star Hilton being closed due to it being taken over by the government for immigrants.

All public services are affected when the country has this amount of extra people needing the resources, processing is costing £7 million per day. Everybody is impacted indirectly by this so called 'dead cat' story, so don't expect the government to be able to afford increased wages and more resources when finances are being stretched already.

Not against immigration for these people at all, there must be some harsh stories regading their plight to get here.

Agreed. We need immigration to support economic growth, just not at the uncontrolled rate which happens when you get legions of people traffickers bringing in people without advance notice. That’s why most countries have always had organised immigration systems, and that works well. Britain just doesn’t have the infrastructure in place to handle the numbers, including a disproportionate % of them as crims with priors. Glad I don’t live in a south coast community and really feel for everyone on the front lines.

 

[EnjoyingTheShow]

If Lineker leaves MOTD permanently and his job becomes available I think his comrades might quickly forget their solidarity.

Couldn’t agree more, especially if one of them gets offered ££ to be his replacement! You’re only as loyal as your next pay cheque!

Said my piece earlier on in this thread.

Cancel him right out of England please. He can go sun himself with his idiot Bruv in Ibiza.

 

[Jaynefnw]

The asylum seekers staying in my town are housed in an absolute shithole of a hotel - far from 4 star.

True as they are running out of places to house them, some are being housed in care homes with the elderly, they themselves aren't elderly but the home office are having issues finding the accommodation that is needed as so many are arriving daily to the country. They can't build houses fast enough , plus there is the issue of relocating the ones that get in trouble.....they get moved from area/city all the time. It's a on going issue, hence why things need to be done about it all, whatever anyone's views on the issue are. The sheer amount is causing
issues for all involved.

 

[Ilovemusic]

And I never said it was happening everywhere, but it will get worse in every area if nothing is done to either stop or slow down the sheer amount of arrivals.

In a idea world we could take in everyone who needed help but we can't , I would like someone on here or any of these celebs or politicians, who are championing all the refugees to be able to come, to tell us all where we as a country will house all these arrivals in the long run ...as more will keep coming if there isn't a system in place to limit it all ....not all will get work and pay back into the system...not will want to work ..not all are here for good.
hundreds of hotels throughout the country are full 100 plus rooms in some full with some having been there for months if not years.....where do we put them in the long run, do we accept them all no vetting and allow all who want to stay here. There imo needs to be rules and protocols to limit arrivals for everyone safety on both sides. (As my son has been threatened many times in his line of work )
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Don't be ridiculous, do you really think the one Mr lineker took into his home just stepped off a boat and was given his address of course not, the person would have been vetted and checked extensively before hand. But the average place the majority of the arrivals end up in and in large groups, not just one or two people, haven't been checked and no of course all asylum seekers aren't scum, but sadly they all aren't people who want to train to be a doctor or even work. We all have to be realistic about this issue.

Precisely!
The refugee Lineker accepted...
"The youngster, Rasheed, from the mountainous Balochistan region between Pakistan and Iran stayed with Lineker for 20 days while studying law in the UK."

20 days??? That's more like a homestay for a student exchange arrangement! It certainly wasn't a refugee "straight off the boat"!

 

[Baby Giraffe]

Not true my son works with them they do receive NHS treatment, they all have twice a week GP clinics at the hotels, dentist appointments within 24hrs if they ask to see one. Alot work cash in hand, although it's against the rules but they can't be challenged about it, they also get £40 a week spending money which goes up the longer they are at the hotels. Free phone on arrival . And a lot more that isn't being reported on.

The poster wasn’t saying that the asylum seekers put up in hotels don’t get treatment etc while they are waiting for theirs claim to be assessed. They simply (and correctly) stated that they’re not illegal. Actual illegal immigrants can’t receive any benefits as they’re not officially here and in the system hence their comment about being under the radar. It is not illegal to come here and seek asylum regardless of what so many people say.