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@Hannah'sMama was responding to my post, are you saying that I'm "able-splaining stimming to autistic people"? I'm not saying this in a snarky way. I genuinely want to know. If I appear to have, as you call it "Neurotypical Bias".. wouldn't it be because I am NT and therefore that's the point of view I'm seeing things from? The way you've phrased it makes it seem as if us NT members cannot empathize or put ourselves in an autistic person's shoes whatsoever, not even in the littlest bit. Or that we think we're better than autistic people. Or that we know what we're talking about more than an autistic person does.
I'm pretty sure I can speak for many members here when I say that if I'm mistaken on something, if I've missed something, or am uninformed on something then by all means educate me and let me know.
I don't agree with throwing around the ableist term and now the neurotypical bias term and what that insinuates when it doesn't apply to most of the ppl posting here. It's also very divisive. Us Vs Them. If you're applying it to something Asa is doing or someone else in particular that's one thing. That would be applying it where it's appropriate. But to kind of lump all of us NT's into one group isn't any more fair than lumping all autistic or IDD people in one group.
Well absoutlely not, I don't want to cause division or anything, etc x And your last sentence, yes, that's correct, but sadly, there are many ablest people out there in the word who love to make fun of disabled people and discriminate and not give out resources
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I'd have to refresh my memory, but I believe you said that people told Abbie 'hands waiting' while doing tasks so that she'd concentrate better? Please feel free to remind me, I don't want to be mistaken
But many adults who aren't autistic do speak over us - such as Assa! - and try to tell us why we do certain things. For instance, many years ago, people believed that autistic people didn't have any empathy. This is simply untrue as many autistic people, including me, will point out and demonstrate, particularly when we see people - especially vulnerable people like ourselves - in distress. Yet the lack of empathy theory damaged many autistic people for years, it would've made them targets for being isolated and bullied at school by teachers, students, etc, and made parents believe they need to "learn how to socialise appropriately" - which is also an ablest and arbitrary notion. Or the suppression of stims, or forcing eye contact. All of that was created with (what I call) Neurotypical Bias, because they only saw it from *their* point of view, not the autistic persons' - therefore showing a lack of theory of mind and empathy (haha, get it?!) Also another example could be thinking (many years ago, although some people might still hold this belief today, who knows
) that those with ADHD are just 'lazy' and 'annoying' and 'not applying themselves'. Uh, no, the feeling of not being able to concentrate and feeling like you're on a sugar high when you don't want to be would be worse, I imagine.
Again, another (potential) example of Neurotypical Bias, of not taking the time to listen to the real experts and learn to help the way those who do experience these challenges (caused by a challenging and overwhelming environment) say is helpful, such as using OT/PT/ST/communication devices to your advantage, and provide support and resources
But your reply was very helpful, and did remind me to take into consideration all of the kind NT's who are indeed listening to autistic people, donating to ASAN (NOT A$, supporting our preference of the neurodiversity symbol, etc etc. x
(In case people need reminding, Assa and Pissicilla don't do any of that, there are still hundreds of posts in FB autistic-led groups blasting this family for their horrific treatments of their daughter and their unwillingness to listen, and hundreds of comments blasting them for ignoring these such posts/comments). smh.
Pet peeves for today
Able-splaining
Neurotypical bias
Cis women , which is the one that really gets me.
Ableist
Able-splaining - meaning basically the same thing as mansplaining, but to disabled people, eg telling them they "just need to try harder" (they might need resources for that, Karen!) or telling wheelchair users they're faking it, or their pain isn't as bad, etc, or trying to tell a blind person what a cane is for etc etc.
NT bias, see above, but basically, telling an autistic person why they're dong things and what kinds of things they need help with or not, all often with the goal of "normalising" in mind, eg, not stimming, eye contact, playing with toys "socially appropriately" etc etc. You'd be amazed with what goes on. I'd suggest reading up on autistic writings such as NeuroClastic, Thinking Guide To Autism, etc
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Cis woman - why does that one get to you? That's making a distinction between trans woman and cic woman, since they may require different medical treatments, and society can still be incredibly transphobic at times, and denying transwomen/men care, equality, etc.
Ablest = discriminating against disabled people in any way shape or form. You'd be surprised at what happens/can happen.
Oh look, I've found something, Assa should be aware of *eye roll*
(Source:
http://www.equalityni.org/ECNI/media/ECNI/Publications/Delivering Equality/UNCRPDOptionalProtocolPlainlanguage.pdf ) Edit to fix typos