Fathering Autism #14

[Sps10]

The reason Abbie does not have her iPads for communication as much anymore is because she breaks them. I wish A and P had worked harder on trying to teach Abbie to not throw things, but I think they're right in that the reason it is hard is because Abbie's understanding of cause and effect is limited. (Please notice I did not say that it is completely absent. She seems to be generally able to grasp cause/effect to some degree in some situations, but only when it is a simple 2-step chain of events.) She can't process the idea that throwing the ipad = iPad breaks = no more iPad = no more speaking device communication. That doesn't mean I think A and P shouldn't have worked harder on not reinforcing the throwing behavior, but I see why it's hard. It kind of seems like when Abbie's IDD limits her ability to process complex chains of thought they just give up rather than seeking alternative ways of fixing the behavior because those alternative ways require consistency.

I stand by what I said about Abbie not being able to truly empathize or understand the "why" behind most things, though I respect others opinions. This seems to be something A and P and all the doctors and caregivers around her agree on, and I don't think all of those people are underestimating her. It also just seems obvious to me from the vlogs. That doesn't mean I think Abbie is totally void of emotions or doesn't feel things in her own way, but empathizing is a complex thought process that requires a strong understanding of cause and effect, the ability to understand one's own feelings, and then being able to project those feelings onto other people. I just don't think that's something Abbie's brain is wired to do. And that's okay. I don't mean to say Abbie is less because of it, just that she has to be taught things in a different way. I DO, however, agree with other commenters that Abbie would benefit from some vocabulary expansion and introducing more signs. Unlike empathy or long chain cause and effect, this is a simple thought process that they/we know Abbie can grasp. Even better if they could find a way for her to stop throwing her communication devices so she could have those at her disposal again. Abbie is mostly able to match general objects and actions to words and phrases, so I don't see why they don't seem to be trying to expand her knowledge in that area and are instead focused on fruitless endeavors like making her to cook with them. This would probably help a lot with her communication and would make her feel less frustrated. Of course, that takes a lot of work and dedication not only within school and therapy, but at home.

 

[WoahThatsCrazy]

If we must watch a video to snark I wish it could be one person who posts here to describe what happened instead of a lot of us. We don't need to give them views/money.

We used to have someone a few months ago, does anyone remember what their @ name was? And where they've gone?!

Nothing on the internet goes away...

Screenrecording it now! (Yes I know that that would technically probably be copyright but f--k it, it's A$$a lol) Idk, but just in case they deleted it, should I put it on here or what?

Apologies, it may be out of order, but here! Lol, the only way I could tolerate actually doing this was to let the phone screen record while listening to music on my laptop (to drown out their voices!)

We used to have someone a few months ago, does anyone remember what their @ name was? And where they've gone?!


Screenrecording it now! (Yes I know that that would technically probably be copyright but f--k it, it's A$$a lol) Idk, but just in case they deleted it, should I put it on here or what?

Apologies, it may be out of order, but here! Lol, the only way I could tolerate actually doing this was to let the phone screen record while listening to music on my laptop (to drown out their voices!)

Let me know if this works before I put up anymore, but I have them all on my phone, all broken up in 3ish minute chunks (Just in case the recording stopped working half way through or something like that)

 

[Stripe69]

We used to have someone a few months ago, does anyone remember what their @ name was? And where they've gone?!


Screenrecording it now! (Yes I know that that would technically probably be copyright but f--k it, it's A$$a lol) Idk, but just in case they deleted it, should I put it on here or what?

Apologies, it may be out of order, but here! Lol, the only way I could tolerate actually doing this was to let the phone screen record while listening to music on my laptop (to drown out their voices!)


Let me know if this works before I put up anymore, but I have them all on my phone, all broken up in 3ish minute chunks (Just in case the recording stopped working half way through or something like that)

Just watching this “ you need to know “ video again makes me angry. Priscilla crying with no tears, Asa crying because his holier than thou image has been shattered. He is calling people garbage for bringing this up, he’s garbage for talking about a child he has as “ them “. Who does that about their own flesh and blood.
Lying about it being a long time since he was in arrears with his child support, December 2019, a really long time ago.
This video was about damage control and nothing more.
Priscilla is so resentful that her child is IDD and his other daughter isn’t. Lies upon lies and the leghumpers lapped it up.
The only issue I agreed with is people should not have messaged Isaiah, that is totally wrong but the rest of it is just
bull.

 

[Pink Marshmallow]

I think Asa lied about people contacting Isaiah in an attempt to garner more sympathy and deflect the attention off himself.

Also, knowing what we know now.. it's interesting to watch this video of them talking about their ''story''. The way Asa tried to spin things and outright lied about others. Watching P's face looking especially awkward because she knows the truth.

The reason Abbie does not have her iPads for communication as much anymore is because she breaks them. I wish A and P had worked harder on trying to teach Abbie to not throw things, but I think they're right in that the reason it is hard is because Abbie's understanding of cause and effect is limited. (Please notice I did not say that it is completely absent. She seems to be generally able to grasp cause/effect to some degree in some situations, but only when it is a simple 2-step chain of events.) She can't process the idea that throwing the ipad = iPad breaks = no more iPad = no more speaking device communication. That doesn't mean I think A and P shouldn't have worked harder on not reinforcing the throwing behavior, but I see why it's hard. It kind of seems like when Abbie's IDD limits her ability to process complex chains of thought they just give up rather than seeking alternative ways of fixing the behavior because those alternative ways require consistency.

I stand by what I said about Abbie not being able to truly empathize or understand the "why" behind most things, though I respect others opinions. This seems to be something A and P and all the doctors and caregivers around her agree on, and I don't think all of those people are underestimating her. It also just seems obvious to me from the vlogs. That doesn't mean I think Abbie is totally void of emotions or doesn't feel things in her own way, but empathizing is a complex thought process that requires a strong understanding of cause and effect, the ability to understand one's own feelings, and then being able to project those feelings onto other people. I just don't think that's something Abbie's brain is wired to do. And that's okay. I don't mean to say Abbie is less because of it, just that she has to be taught things in a different way. I DO, however, agree with other commenters that Abbie would benefit from some vocabulary expansion and introducing more signs. Unlike empathy or long chain cause and effect, this is a simple thought process that they/we know Abbie can grasp. Even better if they could find a way for her to stop throwing her communication devices so she could have those at her disposal again. Abbie is mostly able to match general objects and actions to words and phrases, so I don't see why they don't seem to be trying to expand her knowledge in that area and are instead focused on fruitless endeavors like making her to cook with them. This would probably help a lot with her communication and would make her feel less frustrated. Of course, that takes a lot of work and dedication not only within school and therapy, but at home.

I think you're very accurate in your observations. I think they fit if we're going by the reasoning that Abbie's mentality is that of a baby or toddler. Abbie shares many similar responses and reactions. A toddler is very much present-minded, they think in terms of the here and now. For the most part, Abbie does, too. She does have times of going beyond that but not often and not to a great degree. One example would be when Asa makes the mistake of telling her they're going somewhere tomorrow or on the weekend. All Abbie grasps is "We're going" and doesn't appear to have a concept of tomorrow or the passage of time in that way. She's focused on the present.
I think you're dead-on that A&P tend to give up pretty quickly and don't really attempt to fix something. Not until it becomes so intense that they really don't have a choice but to deal with it. For example, the yelling stim. For years and years they let her do it. Asa would defend it saying that Abbie needs to do it to self-regulate and they would never ever suppress that. That it's wrong to suppress it. He was quite emphatic about it. Cut to a month or so ago when suddenly, apparently due to the acoustics in the new house, Abbie's yelling is becoming way too disruptive and hard to deal with. So, the telling her to go to her room to yell started. They stuck with it for maybe a week or two, then gave up. Until like the past week or so when he showed one time of telling her to go to her room to yell.
I also agree that Abbie would get so much more out of learning more signs, more communication skills and working more on things that she is far more likely to actual be able to or need to do. Brushing her hair, picking up her room, putting her dishes in the sink (without breaking them), maybe carry groceries from the car into the house. Simple things that are at her level and would be beneficial for her. It's very unlikely she is ever going to cook - there is no need to include her in that. I think A or P may have mentioned that Abbie knows how to use the microwave at school. I think that's going to be the extent of her culinary abilities.

 

[10fingers10toes]

The reason Abbie does not have her iPads for communication as much anymore is because she breaks them. I wish A and P had worked harder on trying to teach Abbie to not throw things, but I think they're right in that the reason it is hard is because Abbie's understanding of cause and effect is limited. (Please notice I did not say that it is completely absent. She seems to be generally able to grasp cause/effect to some degree in some situations, but only when it is a simple 2-step chain of events.) She can't process the idea that throwing the ipad = iPad breaks = no more iPad = no more speaking device communication.

I don't think it's just because she breaks it. I think it's because it disturbs the flow of the vlog having the mantra of "popcorn, leentils, pretzel, nature valley bar, car ride" constantly in the background. It draws attention and viewers comment on it. It makes it more obvious than her silent signs, that she is being ignored.

Everything is about the vlog, in my opinion.

A simple Google search will show many better options for heavy duty iPad protective covers:
Several options here

I think this one is good, with a really durable stand, they have strong screen protectors also.


They could also mount them to the wall, like in the kitchen for instance. It wouldn't look strange in Prissy's "precious house", many modern homes have Smart screens mounted in various rooms and hallways, to control security systems, appliances, temperature etc.

She has one mounted to the seat in the car but I don't think they even put her communication app on it, apparently it's for music only, then she has to get frustrated and yell when she is trying to communicate because they can't see her signs while driving.


She can have one like those with a strap in the living room area and for outings. And a few mounted around the house. Her communication device is absolutely essential, they can afford these things, the covers and extra gadgets to mount iPads will cost less than what they spend at DD in a month.

If they can't afford extra iPads and covers, well sell those stupid electric scooters and some of the tons of expensive cameras that are sitting around collecting dust. Maybe skip one of those meaningless vacations this year.

Order your kid what she needs and "stay the 'f%*# home".

 

[Librarywitch]

Oh sweet girl, don’t ya know, you need to keep your hands uncontaminated when preparing & cooking food.

Hand dumping flour in bowl
Rubbing eyes
Hand totally in flour in the bowl
Finger in ear
Redirected to wash hands

You could almost hear the cringe in
’s voice when Abbie kept her hand in the flour bowl for what felt like an eternity after rubbing her eye.

Abbie has no business “helping” prepare any food Let her stick to eating it.

I've included screenshots for your viewing pleasure, or disgust.

I came on now to post the same thing! I was watching the little Miserable Face girl not be able to put flour in a bowl, rub her nasty eyes, put a finger in that grubby eat ,pick her nose and, once again, stick it in the food! Every time she's in the kitchen she does that. Do they make her wash her hands before she starts? I've never seen her do it.

That poor kid has no idea what she's doing. Look at that blank staring off into the distance look on her face while she's "helping" I don't understand why they don't spend that time teaching her a routine doing basic things she will be doing everyday. Even though she won't be able to do much in life it's still saddening to see them drag her around trying to pretend she is a typical child. Priscilla really needs to go seek professional help for that.

Right. They do drag her around to do task after task and, she's not aware of what's she's doing! You don't dump flour in a bowl upside down if you're trying to put it in the bowl. They will put their hand over hers so that she can butter bread and, she is so far removed from the actual task. It's almost as if she is pulling to get away but, they will make sure that That hand did it! She certainly didnt.

 

[PhartBlossom]

Haha! Her size makes her buoyant. I dont know if GrabPopcorn meant this to be funny or not but I cant stop laughing......

Remember the blueberry girl on Willy Wonka?

 

[Librarywitch]

Here we go again. Them wanting desperately for Abbie to be a typical teen..... Abbie just wanted to do some sensory play.

They deserve that booger bread for constantly neglecting Abbie's sensory needs and forcing her to perform in their false narrative.

MAASSive failure, fakery and foolishness.

I couldn't agree more. Never in her future will she ever make bread and clean up a kitchen. She doesn't pay attention at all when they are moving herhands. I believe if they spend time with her, every day, in a smaller room with only one other person, they might be able to teach her ASL. They are teaching her rubbish. She's not going to need to learn these things.

WOW
She was so engaged and enjoying the experience!!!

that is the only time that she acted like she was in the same room as them. She seemed Real.

 

[PhartBlossom]

I bet Asa thinks alot about his first daughter. He can't show that in front of Cilla or she'll flip. I would imagine its a pretty soar subject in that house.

I bet all he thinks is wishing she did not exist. I do not think he gives a rats a about that girl. Other then financial help, she would not be better off knowing that family.

Yep. It’s disgusting all around. Spreading germs everywhere.

The eye rubbing really bothers me because she usually does it right over the food she is “helping” with. Eye boogers and eyelashes falling into the food they’re preparing

SO gross.

I don’t think she has the capacity to know that she should not be touching her eyes, nose, mouth, hair, etc while handling food. I honestly don’t know that she could ever learn that concept.

If JAS sees these videos they may request Abbie not work with kids lunches anymore.

 

[Librarywitch]

Just watching this “ you need to know “ video again makes me angry. Priscilla crying with no tears, Asa crying because his holier than thou image has been shattered. He is calling people garbage for bringing this up, he’s garbage for talking about a child he has as “ them “. Who does that about their own flesh and blood.
Lying about it being a long time since he was in arrears with his child support, December 2019, a really long time ago.
This video was about damage control and nothing more.
Priscilla is so resentful that her child is IDD and his other daughter isn’t. Lies upon lies and the leghumpers lapped it up.
The only issue I agreed with is people should not have messaged Isaiah, that is totally wrong but the rest of it is just
bull.

when I rewatched this video, I was truly sickened when I saw Priscilla do her crying thing. It's the Same move everytime. She starts to talk, frowns, right hand goes under hair to flip it While she's making a cry face. Not crying,mind you. Just the same choreography. She looks like a deer in headlights in this video. Or, someone who had a drink or something else before hand. She honestly said that the when the other child was conceived, "that's when we were separated." Oh. Not the time he " didn't want to be married anymore? " And you believe that he's a big family man now? Even though he films more of Summer than anything else.

 

[PhartBlossom]

Blessed Easter to those who celebrate.


I have decided from now on I will watch their vlogs at fast speed. At least I can laugh while watching.

I believe they are really losing ground. People are seeing they really have no clue how to parent or teach Abbie. Going to them for advice on raising an Autistic daughter? may as well just go with Wikipedia.

Watching the vlog from yesterday. Two things I noticed, Abbie does not seem to be wearing a pullup. Look at Abbies hair, they have pulled it back so tight for so long she is losing her hair. The sides of her forehead...the hairline is decreasing A LOT!

Summer! Wear some damn clothes, you need a lesson on what is appropriate and what is not. Just pull the damn gray hair out and stop being a drama queen.

They claim Abbie loves being in the kitchen helping mom? I don't see it.

So they are going to do more podcasts.....BIG YAWN...who cares what those two idiots have to say on a podcast? Really?

 

[Pink Marshmallow]

Watching the vlog from yesterday. Two things I noticed, Abbie does not seem to be wearing a pullup. Look at Abbies hair, they have pulled it back so tight for so long she is losing her hair. The sides of her forehead...the hairline is decreasing A LOT!

I've noticed her receding hairline since I first started watching the vlogs. It's not surprising since her hair is tied back in some fashion or another pretty much all the time. Even when they had her hair shorter, they left it alone for a while but then pulled the bangs back again. Poor Abbie practically has A$A's hairline.

 

[PhartBlossom]

I've noticed her receding hairline since I first started watching the vlogs. It's not surprising since her hair is tied back in some fashion or another pretty much all the time. Even when they had her hair shorter, they left it alone for a while but then pulled the bangs back again. Poor Abbie practically has A$A's hairline.

I get a headache when my hair is pulled back too tight. Maybe she gets them as well but can't tell anyone. I wish they would all pull their hair up really tight and wear it like that all day so they could see how that feels.

 

[Mother2]

When my hair grew back from bald it became a really nice silver/white. I received loads of compliments, but I still colored it when it was long enough to. Right now I may have an inch or so of hair, kinda a pixie cut. I use to love my long hair and colored it every 3 weeks. Now I realize it’s not that important to me. Who knows, I might let the silver grow back in.

You really should. Silver hair is beautiful. I actually used to color my hair silver. I have also had silver streaks as well. I just absolutely love that color!!

 

[Librarywitch]

The reason Abbie does not have her iPads for communication as much anymore is because she breaks them. I wish A and P had worked harder on trying to teach Abbie to not throw things, but I think they're right in that the reason it is hard is because Abbie's understanding of cause and effect is limited. (Please notice I did not say that it is completely absent. She seems to be generally able to grasp cause/effect to some degree in some situations, but only when it is a simple 2-step chain of events.) She can't process the idea that throwing the ipad = iPad breaks = no more iPad = no more speaking device communication. That doesn't mean I think A and P shouldn't have worked harder on not reinforcing the throwing behavior, but I see why it's hard. It kind of seems like when Abbie's IDD limits her ability to process complex chains of thought they just give up rather than seeking alternative ways of fixing the behavior because those alternative ways require consistency.

I stand by what I said about Abbie not being able to truly empathize or understand the "why" behind most things, though I respect others opinions. This seems to be something A and P and all the doctors and caregivers around her agree on, and I don't think all of those people are underestimating her. It also just seems obvious to me from the vlogs. That doesn't mean I think Abbie is totally void of emotions or doesn't feel things in her own way, but empathizing is a complex thought process that requires a strong understanding of cause and effect, the ability to understand one's own feelings, and then being able to project those feelings onto other people. I just don't think that's something Abbie's brain is wired to do. And that's okay. I don't mean to say Abbie is less because of it, just that she has to be taught things in a different way. I DO, however, agree with other commenters that Abbie would benefit from some vocabulary expansion and introducing more signs. Unlike empathy or long chain cause and effect, this is a simple thought process that they/we know Abbie can grasp. Even better if they could find a way for her to stop throwing her communication devices so she could have those at her disposal again. Abbie is mostly able to match general objects and actions to words and phrases, so I don't see why they don't seem to be trying to expand her knowledge in that area and are instead focused on fruitless endeavors like making her to cook with them. This would probably help a lot with her communication and would make her feel less frustrated. Of course, that takes a lot of work and dedication not only within school and therapy, but at home.

Abbie does not have empathy for any other creature. It's easy to see. When she does not have her teeth over her bottom lip and rocking,her face is completely void of emotions. Even if you can Not hear, you look and REACT to what people are doing. Abbies face is like a mask. Nothing there. I have seen her in the past just laughing and laughing at another person's injury or after breaking something that belonged to someone else. And, the next second, she's crying. They must see it in her face that, there is nothing behind those eyes.

Just watching this “ you need to know “ video again makes me angry. Priscilla crying with no tears, Asa crying because his holier than thou image has been shattered. He is calling people garbage for bringing this up, he’s garbage for talking about a child he has as “ them “. Who does that about their own flesh and blood.
Lying about it being a long time since he was in arrears with his child support, December 2019, a really long time ago.
This video was about damage control and nothing more.
Priscilla is so resentful that her child is IDD and his other daughter isn’t. Lies upon lies and the leghumpers lapped it up.
The only issue I agreed with is people should not have messaged Isaiah, that is totally wrong but the rest of it is just
bull.

I
Really. Obviously this is how Asa feels/treats women but, Priscilla is just a disgrace to women everywhere. If you had a jerk like Asa for a husband, you'd expect him to call other people "garbage" but, Priscilla is a Woman. She's a MOTHER. She begged Asa to stay because she had his baby. Why is this other women nothing at all? Your husband has a child who is Real! Flesh, blood, feelings. But to you, she's just......non existent. When they spoil rotten Abigail, so you think he ever wonders if his other daughter has new school clothes? New shoes? A winter coat? It's disgusting. And Priscilla is just as guilty for knowing and Ignoring his other child.

 

[PhartBlossom]

You really should. Silver hair is beautiful. I actually used to color my hair silver. I have also had silver streaks as well. I just absolutely love that color!!

Just recently decided to stop dying my roots. I am a red head with lots of gray coming in. I like how it looks, surprised me kinda. Now will cost me less money and less time with dying and highlighting and all that stuff.

 

[therealamylynn]

I have no words.

 

[erised2020]

I have no words.

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My god she’s ridiculous

 

[Mother2]

Abbie does not have empathy for any other creature. It's easy to see. When she does not have her teeth over her bottom lip and rocking,her face is completely void of emotions. Even if you can Not hear, you look and REACT to what people are doing. Abbies face is like a mask. Nothing there. I have seen her in the past just laughing and laughing at another person's injury or after breaking something that belonged to someone else. And, the next second, she's crying. They must see it in her face that, there is nothing behind those eyes.


I
Really. Obviously this is how Asa feels/treats women but, Priscilla is just a disgrace to women everywhere. If you had a jerk like Asa for a husband, you'd expect him to call other people "garbage" but, Priscilla is a Woman. She's a MOTHER. She begged Asa to stay because she had his baby. Why is this other women nothing at all? Your husband has a child who is Real! Flesh, blood, feelings. But to you, she's just......non existent. When they spoil rotten Abigail, so you think he ever wonders if his other daughter has new school clothes? New shoes? A winter coat? It's disgusting. And Priscilla is just as guilty for knowing and Ignoring his other child.

At this point, I think he sees dollar signs when he looks at Abigail. He wouldn't see that in his other daughter bc, she is neurotypical. Nothing to bank off of. So, if there is nothing in it for him, he pretends it's not there.

 

[cucumber]

Remember the blueberry girl on Willy Wonka?

omg...YES! Hahahaha.