Next time it will be the locks on all the doors going out that he forgets. He's done it before. And Pig too lazy to get out of bed to check when she heard Abby go downstairs No surprise there.They were probably too drunk to remember to shut it. That was my first thought when he said something about it.
That is my thinking too.. She is strong enough to move a chair over to the pantry and undo the lock. It wouldn’t take 2 minutes. May not be able to understand complex locks like the fridge but the pantry is just a slide..I see what you are saying. However Abbies major motivation, sadly, is food so if she had the mental capability I would expect her to try and work out how she can access it. But she doesnt. Those fridge locks are easy to undo and she watches them all the time undoing them but, from, what we see, never even fiddles with them.
I think that's an excellent point. Motivation.That is my thinking too.. She is strong enough to move a chair over to the pantry and undo the lock. It wouldn’t take 2 minutes. May not be able to understand complex locks like the fridge but the pantry is just a slide..
I am wondering if this is part of her ABA discipline, that is basically unlearned impulse or forced compliance to authority. I have seen both used and was a reason we totally would not do ABA with our own kids. I didn’t want them to give up those basic wants or always giving to people within authority positions.
She basically has learned to ask for food all the time, food is her only motivation tool. She could care less by actually getting it herself, she will wait to get it but will drive people crazy asking for it. Once she gets it, she has to protect it like a wild animal, in case anyone tries to take it away..
It is scary though because even my kids, at 18 months old, had natural curiosity and wanting to go against what someone says but Abbie just lacks those.. It is crazy to see..
Which is why I said that no employer is going to want to even try to work with her. Abbie has to have the willingness to want to work and she doesn’t. She will want to get out of doing anything, she will ask to go to the bathroom or just want to leave. She has an issue with just being within a new building, even after being in it for years. Employers that do employee special needs individuals definitely would try but after so much, they are going to hold their hands up. Especially if she requires a job coach every minute she is there.
I would imagine the job coach would have to be with her constantly one on one... and would have to have lots of treats to entice her to do the work (constantly).. otherwise it will be a no go. .. I cant even imagine how difficult and challenging it would be for the job coach.I think that's an excellent point. Motivation.
Putting aside the ID factor for a moment, there is also the motivation/desire to do something. If it's something she doesn't like doing or has no interest in doing, then she drags her feet, she resists, she fidgets, she stims, she fusses... then eventually does it and has to be kept on task etc. Whereas if it's something she really likes & enjoys, the moment you say it to her she is ON it.
While intellectual ability and comprehension skills play their parts (no one is disputing that), I think that a decent amount of time she is resisting because she doesn't feel like doing what is being asked of her. She's non-verbal so she can't say "I don't want to put the dishes away.", but she shows it in other ways.
I also think she is extremely prompt dependent from the Massives fcking up doing ABA with her (along with fcking up many other things). I remember back at the old house, Miss Brandy was trying to work with Abbie (and A&P) to move away from and prevent prompt dependency. But, because Asshat decided he knows better and refused to do what Brandy instructed, we have what we have now - total prompt dependency.
These are some good observations and actually made me think. Has Abbie ever used a tool to accomplish something she wanted without any parental supervision, instruction, or presence? Like pushed a chair to climb up on a counter or reach a door lock. She unlocks her car seat lock and door locks. But has never fiddled with the locks to the refrigerator, snack pantry or her room gate? Can she open her room gate and why hasn’t she crawled over it? I guarantee a toddler would be up and over that gate in no time flat. Even if it meant falling over it to get out.That is my thinking too.. She is strong enough to move a chair over to the pantry and undo the lock. It wouldn’t take 2 minutes. May not be able to understand complex locks like the fridge but the pantry is just a slide..
I am wondering if this is part of her ABA discipline, that is basically unlearned impulse or forced compliance to authority. I have seen both used and was a reason we totally would not do ABA with our own kids. I didn’t want them to give up those basic wants or always giving to people within authority positions.
She basically has learned to ask for food all the time, food is her only motivation tool. She could care less by actually getting it herself, she will wait to get it but will drive people crazy asking for it. Once she gets it, she has to protect it like a wild animal, in case anyone tries to take it away..
It is scary though because even my kids, at 18 months old, had natural curiosity and wanting to go against what someone says but Abbie just lacks those.. It is crazy to see..
Which is why I said that no employer is going to want to even try to work with her. Abbie has to have the willingness to want to work and she doesn’t. She will want to get out of doing anything, she will ask to go to the bathroom or just want to leave. She has an issue with just being within a new building, even after being in it for years. Employers that do employee special needs individuals definitely would try but after so much, they are going to hold their hands up. Especially if she requires a job coach every minute she is there.
Abbie has zero motivation to do anything unless it involves food. Even the endless putting the backpack away, she only does because it is a precursor to a snack.I think that's an excellent point. Motivation.
Putting aside the ID factor for a moment, there is also the motivation/desire to do something. If it's something she doesn't like doing or has no interest in doing, then she drags her feet, she resists, she fidgets, she stims, she fusses... then eventually does it and has to be kept on task etc. Whereas if it's something she really likes & enjoys, the moment you say it to her she is ON it.
While intellectual ability and comprehension skills play their parts (no one is disputing that), I think that a decent amount of time she is resisting because she doesn't feel like doing what is being asked of her. She's non-verbal so she can't say "I don't want to put the dishes away.", but she shows it in other ways.
I also think she is extremely prompt dependent from the Massives fcking up doing ABA with her (along with fcking up many other things). I remember back at the old house, Miss Brandy was trying to work with Abbie (and A&P) to move away from and prevent prompt dependency. But, because Asshat decided he knows better and refused to do what Brandy instructed, we have what we have now - total prompt dependency.
Not only is she prompt dependent, she's also never given time to work on a task herself.I think that's an excellent point. Motivation.
Putting aside the ID factor for a moment, there is also the motivation/desire to do something. If it's something she doesn't like doing or has no interest in doing, then she drags her feet, she resists, she fidgets, she stims, she fusses... then eventually does it and has to be kept on task etc. Whereas if it's something she really likes & enjoys, the moment you say it to her she is ON it.
While intellectual ability and comprehension skills play their parts (no one is disputing that), I think that a decent amount of time she is resisting because she doesn't feel like doing what is being asked of her. She's non-verbal so she can't say "I don't want to put the dishes away.", but she shows it in other ways.
I also think she is extremely prompt dependent from the Massives fcking up doing ABA with her (along with fcking up many other things). I remember back at the old house, Miss Brandy was trying to work with Abbie (and A&P) to move away from and prevent prompt dependency. But, because Asshat decided he knows better and refused to do what Brandy instructed, we have what we have now - total prompt dependency.
A DJ?????? Is she drunk????Tonight's shit.
Ok, they are totally delusional. This is so fucked up. Abbie can't be a damn DJ. ABbie eats the fucking dirt at a damn plant nursery. Also, they have had 16 years to work on basic basic skills and she can hardly do anything for herself. These idiots have lost their fucking minds. I swear we are all being punked between the craziness of these Slimelife videos, SW videos, and all the in-between.
They've also mentioned in the past that Abbie does not climb over the gate because she does not like to have her feet off the ground...and past videos of them trying to get her to step over things, or step onto surfaces that seem unsteady, do seem to bear that out.Not odd to me at all. My kiddo doesn't seem to realize he can go under (by sliding on the floor) our kitchen gate. He sees a barrier, and that seems end it there.
Yes but every time she sits on a chair or even in the car she puts her feet up under her and sits on them.They've also mentioned in the past that Abbie does not climb over the gate because she does not like to have her feet off the ground...and past videos of them trying to get her to step over things, or step onto surfaces that seem unsteady, do seem to bear that out.
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But in those situations, she is stable and steady. I think she doesn’t like feeling unsteady or without a solid center of balance.Yes but every time she sits on a chair or even in the car she puts her feet up under her and sits on them.
That could be because at least she feels that something is under her "grounding" her, vs lifting a leg in the air just by itself makes her less steady.Yes but every time she sits on a chair or even in the car she puts her feet up under her and sits on them.
In New Zealand, we have ‘sheltered workshops’ for intellectually disabled individuals, of which my cousin has been going to one for years. They do do the ‘menial’ work that Arsehat has such aversion to, but I know my cousin is quite proud of the ‘work’ she does and earns some pocket money at the same time. It is along the lines of putting pegs into plastic bags for a charity, folding flyers, inserting cards into magazines etc, but they do it throughout the day, with lots of breaks for playing games, ADL’s, and singing etc, and it’s usually 1:1 but the staff are always doing other things such as toileting, helping with kitchen staff etc.We have settings in the UK where special need adults attend with mostly one to one staff. Here they do fun plus ‘work’ activities, very small tasks with full supervision. Not real jobs but the adults are made to feel wanted and needed and as if they are actually working. This is the type of thing Abbie will need, but it’s not true employment. I work in the special needs area, but in a special school catering for students aged 3-19 yrs, so have much experience in this area.
So along with a job coach she would need a full-time aide. It would not be a job coach his job to change diapers correct? I would think she would require someone full-time to handle that kind of stuff so the job coach could coach a jobI would imagine the job coach would have to be with her constantly one on one... and would have to have lots of treats to entice her to do the work (constantly).. otherwise it will be a no go. .. I cant even imagine how difficult and challenging it would be for the job coach.
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