Dr Jessica Taylor

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This will backfire on her. People will be curious enough to seek this thread out, and the evidence for unethical behaviour is compelling.
Yep, I’d forgotten about this thread until I saw her tweet quoted on Twitter last night Which reminded me!

‘Outliving’ in her pink post and ‘Life-ending‘ last night. Such melodrama.

I don’t have any professional experience in this field but stopped following Jess a while ago because something felt a bit off. Then I saw the way she treated Sally Ann. I’d never heard of grandiose narcissism but it fits her to a tee.
 
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JT required unflinching , unthinking loyalty from her employees. Surely she expects it from her wife as well. Times about a million.
 
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J’s hyperbole is astounding. The only person whose life is at risk is SA’s… and we know why that is.
 
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What is the second "gossipy site" Jess is referring to? is if a reddit page?
Ps she made it sound like people have set up an "I hate dr jess taylor" website. LOL, no. A thread. On a website. A discussion. Be in the public eye, you will be discussed.
 
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It sounds as if victim focus have had a very high turnover of staff. I wonder if she considers why this is? She is the person that is hiring these people so I wonder at what stage she will take some accountability for the choices she is making within her own organisation.
 
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Sally Ann has support workers from a specialist third sector organisation. I assume if she needs more help they can refer her. She has stated that she feels well looked after by them.

A few weeks ago she was referred to an inpatient unit because she was in so much distress over this. A cynical part of me thinks that JT is trying to ape that with her dark comments about criticism of her potentially being "life-ending" - she saw people sympathise with Sally Ann for being in crisis and she may be trying to generate the same sympathy for herself.

The difference is that Sally Ann was re-traumatised by shoddy unethical research practice and a writer who wasn't big enough to own her mistakes and say sorry. Jess is distressed only because she's been found out and her lies have been publicly dismantled.
 
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yep, it’s never filed any accounts. This was asked on Twitter recently and the reply was around not being able to open a bank account in Covid. The company has been incorporated about a year prior to lockdowns and some banks only stopped opening business accounts for a short period of time very early on whilst they sorted how they were doing things. Apparently it now has a bank account but filed accounts are yet to be seen.
it Was pointed out that every company at companies house Jess or Jaimi have registered has been “struck off” or dissolved having never filed accounts.

I’ve personally had a couple of people call the police to claim harrassment. These are both people who I was calling out behaviours of (one misrepresenting a charity, the other libeling me). Harrasment is a funny thing as someone simply has to say they “feel” harrassed for police to make a call/visit. They simply want to stop things before escalating. Each time, when I’ve explained, they’ve apologised and can’t understand the issue.
It’s used by some in a threatening manner when they are losing their grand image of self.
 
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So within hours of her twitter tantrum she’s posted on instagram inviting people to join her there and on tiktok? Home girl really spends toooo much time on socials

Not sure I’ve ever heard her talk of going to therapy? And I’m sure if she had/is in therapy she’d mention it - if you’re reading Jess - would really recommend it might help heal some of the wounds you seem so desperate to fill with online validation.
 
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Just checking you haven’t used your real name here or one that gives you away? If you have you can report it to mods and get it changed.
 
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Has this stuff been playing out on Facebook? Some people are writing on twitter that she's been dragged on fb for similar.
 
I think the only things said about her children here were that the older child may not appreciate her being quite so public about the circumstances of his conception (understandable, as it is an extremely sensitive matter) and that it must have disrupted their lives to have the family break up and a very young stepmother move in. That's it. No one has shared any personal information or discussed anything to do with the children. I don't see how that is "putting them in danger." Tattle openly bans anyone that breaks the rule about not going to someone's personal account to attack them. If anyone's going to go after her kids it's the alt-right trolls she has, and they've been on her case ever since she published her first book, we had nothing to do with it

Similarly, Jaimi has only been discussed in terms of:
  • The age difference between her and Jess, and their being evasive about how the relationship began. It’s understandable that people would question this since a lot of Jess’s work focuses on grooming of teenagers
  • The fact that she doesn’t have a professional background or qualifications relevant to the senior positions she was given at VF and TEF, or to co-authoring a book with Jess
  • Her going after SA and people who have criticised Jess on social media
That's it! We're not "telling dangerous lies" and putting her family in danger, nor are we "hashtagging feminism, bekind, VAWG, mental health matters bullshit."
 
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It's not even just the age difference, although that obviously feeds into it, but I do feel concern for Jaimi tbh - she's not only young, she comes across as very young for her age. As a student there was a huge imbalance in power in her relationship with Jess, and the fact Jess was married to a man before then getting together with Jaimi rings alarm bells tbh. Also, it seems Jaimi and her mum are employed with Jess so dependent on her financially? This all seems like a very bad and worrying position for Jaimi to be in.
 
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Jess is deliberately trying to conflate criticism of her behaviour (however polite) with abuse, and she always has done this. Many of her followers will have seen misogyny directed at outspoken women online, and they'll naturally assume this is the sort of thing she means. It's unspeakably cruel that she's allowing and even actively encouraging people to believe that Sally Ann is some kind of evil mastermind orchestrating a harassment campaign, instead of a very vulnerable woman with severe trauma-related difficulties who is trying to regain a sense of control over her own life and story. She has been polite. She has done nothing except state clearly what happened, with screenshots to prove it. This is just extra heartache for Sally Ann.

I've said it before, but I can't emphasise it enough - this is why any research with vulnerable people requires a strong ethical framework to support participants. Sally Ann was not receiving support or therapy at the time she spoke to Jess. She was desperate. No researcher worth their salt would have used a story from a woman like that, precisely because publication might cause fresh distress. You should also be checking in with vulnerable participants at every step of the way. I had a young woman disclose some particularly horrific personal things during a research interview, and when I transcribed it, I wondered if she'd shared those things in the distress of the moment and if she might regret their publication. I contacted her to double-check if I should use those quotations or not. She told me not to use them and thanked me for being sensitive to her. This is the norm. You have got to be so so careful with this type of research because there is always the risk of further harm. It really doesn't matter how well-intentioned you are.

I doubt Jess published Sally Ann's story while rubbing her hands in glee at her unethical behaviour. I doubt it even occurred to her. Given how sloppily Why Women Are Blamed for Everything was put together (a copy-paste bonanza from the thesis and blog) I suspect she just hit Ctrl + V without a second thought what she was copying and pasting over. This sloppiness renders false one of the statements made in the book (that all women were receiving professional support at the time of writing). All the distress she's feeling now is rooted in her inability to just admit that she got careless and made mistakes. But no, she has to be right all the time, even if it means lying and distorting the facts, even if it means causing further trauma to women already traumatised enough. If she doesn't learn to reflect on and repair her mistakes she's going to end up very lonely.
 
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What is the second "gossipy site" Jess is referring to? is if a reddit page?
I think she is referring to the netmums thread about her that someone put on her Twitter.

No one has shared any personal information or discussed anything to do with the children
I don't think anyone has. I've not seen it here, on twitter or on the netmums thread about her that has upset her. I think she is making it up for sympathy.
 
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I know that SA has read this thread before. If you read this don’t let her dramatic posts worry you. We all believe you and stand by you. You’ve done nothing wrong.
 
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I'm wandering, just to give Jess some benefit...
So is her claim that all women who partook in the interviews signed consent forms, likely complete bs, or did some women sign consent forms, and she got sloppy, as another user suggested?
Or is she literally lying through her teeth?
Is her process chaotic and mistakes get made, or does she really not use proper consent?
 
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Whew this was a disturbing read. I found Dr Jess after asking in a feminist group about feminists bringing their analysis to the subject of psychiatry and someone recommended her. It didn't take long for me to be troubled by some of her claims and then red flags really went up after she published some survey results with seriously and obviously incorrect conclusions and both she and Jaimi lashed out hard against anyone expressing concern about it. I also was surprised to find out she has no experience in clinical practice but it made so much sense. I've been an inpatient and seen people recovering from catatonia and deeply complex and distressing psychotic episodes and I didn't know how anyone who had experience with that could make the kind of blanket statements she does.
I really wanted to believe the best of her but seeing what's happened with SA is sickening. I can't understand how she's made it clear she's been lying to everyone by denying it for months while painting SA as unstable and obsessed and yet so many of her followers aren't skipping a beat. This whole situation is really obscene.
 
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I find Jessica Taylor’s “ideologies” and “takes” on things quite ironic, and I dare say hypocritical. She is always going on about internalised misogyny and the dangers it can cause if that misogyny is unchecked. But her wife is openly mocking Nadine Dorries and making speculation that she is in love with the PM (I don’t like Tories, just to clarify) but I’d argue that is misogyny. She claims misogyny is tearing other women down, bullying and harassing them also being misogyny, yet that’s what she is also doing?

She scrutinised the age difference between Amber Hears and Johnny Depp, and the supposed power imbalance. What about your wife, mate? She’s MY age.

And last nights Twitter outburst too. “Is anyone going to step in”, why would you say that? Why do you need to encourage a pile on to Sally Ann and anyone who defies her? It screams desperation to me.

I used to like her work. I bought Sexy But Psycho. I looked up to her as a trailblazer in modern psychology, I’m starting my Forensic Psychology degree this year and found her takes very refreshing. I got about a quarter of the way through SBP and had to stop reading it. Her minimisation of mental illnesses like BPD and PTSD is not only wrong, it’s DANGEROUS. She seems to take everything she’s ever been claimed to have had, and apply that to everyone. Like “oh I was told I had BPD but I don’t so that’s how it goes for everyone else”. Yes, it can be overdiagnosed, and sometimes even misdiagnosed. But that doesn’t mean it applies to everyone.

Her minimisation of autism and ADHD also makes my blood BOIL. I am an adult and have just been diagnosed with both autism and ADHD as I was missed and went under the radar for years, and it has changed my life receiving these diagnoses. She just thinks she can say anything and have no backlash, no scrutiny, nothing.

Any self respecting academic, or “leader” in their sector SHOULD be open to scrutiny. She is dangerous and she is just sitting on her soapbox saying whatever the fuck she wants with no consequences.
 
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And last nights Twitter outburst too. “Is anyone going to step in”, why would you say that? Why do you need to encourage a pile on to Sally Ann and anyone who defies her? It screams desperation to me.
totally agree. Seemed to me quite entitled, asking people to step in....who is meant to step in? Who owes her to untangle her own mess? Says a lot about her understanding of social media and its purpose.

Def agree also re BPD 100 percent....the idea that personality disorders are not real is what drew me in and has some truth. My own dr says if a Dr dislikes their patient or can't handle them, often that could lead to a BPD Dx.

That said, I believe there is merit to the dx in some cases. I think she misses nuance. It's actually quite scary because there's an ounce of truth in her words, but she distorts them to an extreme as bad as the original toxic idea she's debunking .

Ie psychiatry only harms and hurts women is imo as bad as saying psychiatry is the way to manage all problems and is perfect. Neither is completely true and both could have a negative effect on vulnerable populations.
 
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I think it’s important that *we* distinguish against a thread completely shaming, discrediting and tearing down all her work, personal life and professional values/status and one that is (I’d argue quite rightly) discussing concerns that many people seem to be having; as time goes on a that number seems to grow.

My point being is that what she see’s as bullying and harassment is, in many cases, not. There are only a select number where admittedly it is as such, but threads such as this one I believe are important for many reasons including discussion and accountability and fall under the latter above.

I, like many others, looked up to her not only for her views on a broad range of things (VAWG, feminism, oppression) and have talked at great length with others in my life (women and men alike) about the topics and used some of her work as examples, but also her determination to gain her PhD as someone who has struggled in academia but wants to progress in my professional field. I’ve followed her, and Jaimi, on socials for a while, I’ve bought her books and championed her on numerous occasions, but now her books sit unread on my bookshelf and I find myself more and more concerned with her professional and personal conduct on social media, as well as some of the views she now seems to hold that are broadcast as ‘my way or no way’.

For example, the minimisation and idea that personality disorders and mental health diagnoses for women who have been at the hands of abuse etc can all be grouped together as harmful and a way to label such women and girls in a negative way I find a dangerous and harmful bike to pedal. Do I agree some Dx are given out willy nilly for ease of explanation and a label? Yes, I think there are many cases where JT has a point. But also as someone else says the idea lacks nuance and it is dangerous and harmful to label ALL diagnoses as such; and this is how many of her views seem to come across to me at present. And if you disagree, the ‘I have a PhD and know more than you’ argument seems to be whipped out.

The situation with SA I think Accidental Academic outlines how I feel quite well below too.

I don’t see myself, or anyone else here, as part of a group wanting to discredit and tear down a highly successful, determined professional or woman alike. I see myself as part of a group here (some of whom are professionals in multiple fields like myself) who are trying to reach out to her and her supporters and get them to understand our views and concerns, which I feel come from a good and fair place. And I honestly wish she’d listen instead of continuing to perpetuate the idea of just pure solid abuse, harassment and bullying of her and Jaimi.
 
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