Donald Trump - The 45th President of the United States

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I thinn Trump will win. If he doesn't, he will claim election fraud.
Yeah I was going to say the exact same thing in my post there. He’s already set up the ‘postal fraud’ line of argument. There’s no way in hell he will accept defeat with grace or accept it full stop. However electoral fraud is only a thing in that circumstance and not in one of his victory. And yeah he’s more likely to win.
 
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A quick google tells that this has been being discussed since c. 2017. Very interesting to see how / if this develops. Apparently there are protocols in place for the people who sit in the bunkers ready to launch the missiles at the command of the president to have psychological testing every 3 months but no such protocol for the person directing the order 😱
 
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A quick google tells that this has been being discussed since c. 2017. Very interesting to see how / if this develops. Apparently there are protocols in place for the people who sit in the bunkers ready to launch the missiles at the command of the president to have psychological testing every 3 months but no such protocol for the person directing the order 😱
Says it all really:rolleyes: going by that the outlook for someone with that illness isn't great and around a 7yr life expectancy .So he's half way there by the look of things if he's supposed to be suffering from it in 2017🤷‍♀️
 
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I have heard he wears lifts in his shoes so he seems taller. That could make him stand and walk funny.
Whilst I find it totally plausible that he may wear lifts I think the line of thought goes further than just his posture and includes his cognitive function.
 
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I find it really hard to reconcile peoples ideas is Trump a good businessman ?
His wealth was inherited from his dad.
He’s had Numerous bankruptcies- how is that good business ?
He’s known for Stiffing contractors - how is that good business ?
American banks refused to lend to him - does that sound like good business ?

He’s such a good businessman he’s hiding his taxes - because he doesn’t want people to know what it in them becuase they show how much he’s really worth and where his dodgy money came from.

The republicans preach fiscal responsibility / small government and then he blows up the deficit. he will bankrupt the country just like he has his own companies. A grown up will have to come in and fix his mess.

As a teacher I’d also be wary of the way he’s trying to get his mitts on the pension funds. He’d bankrupt them in a heart beat too
 
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That's why I rarely click on any of the icons on posts about him in this thread.
I know comments about him (even polite and kindly worded ones) makes it awkward for you and it's unfair putting you on the spot.
Best avoided.
You should never feel attacked for your beliefs MOM5, you’re entitled to think, like and do what the hell pleases you. You’re never going to please everyone and who is anybody else to police you’re beliefs. I’m proud to say I support Trump and Boris. I’ve reached my beliefs, as I’m sure you have, from life experiences and until something or anything happens to change my mind, then other people’s ideas have no bearing on my life. What others think of you is none of your business 😘
Donald Trump is only interested in what benefits Donald Trump. He is a narc, hates strong women, creepy about his daughter. He’s incapable of empathy. He doesn’t understand public service. He’s racist. He can’t even hold a bible correctly. He turned forces on his people peacefully protesting. He’s ‘not perfect’ that made me laugh so hard as he is all that is bad rolled together in a day orange balloon


Everything that Meghan Markle is accused of - Donald Trunp is too and with some extra horrific characteristic - you get a side order of misogyny and racism with him too.. That’s what I find
Trash talk like every other liberal spouting parrot fashion inaccuracy put out there as a smear campaign by a democrat paid media. Do your homework then come back with a valid reasoned argument then I might listen 😂

I find it really hard to reconcile peoples ideas is Trump a good businessman ?
His wealth was inherited from his dad.
He’s had Numerous bankruptcies- how is that good business ?
He’s known for Stiffing contractors - how is that good business ?
American banks refused to lend to him - does that sound like good business ?

He’s such a good businessman he’s hiding his taxes - because he doesn’t want people to know what it in them becuase they show how much he’s really worth and where his dodgy money came from.

The republicans preach fiscal responsibility / small government and then he blows up the deficit. he will bankrupt the country just like he has his own companies. A grown up will have to come in and fix his mess.

As a teacher I’d also be wary of the way he’s trying to get his mitts on the pension funds. He’d bankrupt them in a heart beat too
His father gave him £1m which he turned into £300m. That speaks volumes to me of what business acumen he possesses. Nobody ever said business was easy or a free ride. Everyone screws everyone else. He just happens to win the most. I’d put my money on him 😂 Aside from all that, he’s the only president in history to lose money during his term of office. All the other greedy bastards rape the position for their own gains. He donates his presidential salary every quarter to a worthy cause. Obama went in with a few hundred grand and left with £30m. Nancy and Creepy Joe earn from their positions a few hundred thousand per annum but are now millionaires. Ask more questions. My recommendation to you - read more!
 
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You should never feel attacked for your beliefs MOM5, you’re entitled to think, like and do what the hell pleases you. You’re never going to please everyone and who is anybody else to police you’re beliefs. I’m proud to say I support Trump and Boris. I’ve reached my beliefs, as I’m sure you have, from life experiences and until something or anything happens to change my mind, then other people’s ideas have no bearing on my life. What others think of you is none of your business 😘

Trash talk like every other liberal spouting parrot fashion inaccuracy put out there as a smear campaign by a democrat paid media. Do your homework then come back with a valid reasoned argument then I might listen 😂


His father gave him £1m which he turned into £300m. That speaks volumes to me of what business acumen he possesses. Nobody ever said business was easy or a free ride. Everyone screws everyone else. He just happens to win the most. I’d put my money on him 😂 Aside from all that, he’s the only president in history to lose money during his term of office. All the other greedy bastards rape the position for their own gains. He donates his presidential salary every quarter to a worthy cause. Obama went in with a few hundred grand and left with £30m. Nancy and Creepy Joe earn from their positions a few hundred thousand per annum but are now millionaires. Ask more questions. My recommendation to you - read more!
He should at least release his tax returns, though? Haven’t all other Presidents done so?
 
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You should never feel attacked for your beliefs MOM5, you’re entitled to think, like and do what the hell pleases you. You’re never going to please everyone and who is anybody else to police you’re beliefs. I’m proud to say I support Trump and Boris. I’ve reached my beliefs, as I’m sure you have, from life experiences and until something or anything happens to change my mind, then other people’s ideas have no bearing on my life. What others think of you is none of your business 😘

Trash talk like every other liberal spouting parrot fashion inaccuracy put out there as a smear campaign by a democrat paid media. Do your homework then come back with a valid reasoned argument then I might listen 😂


His father gave him £1m which he turned into £300m. That speaks volumes to me of what business acumen he possesses. Nobody ever said business was easy or a free ride. Everyone screws everyone else. He just happens to win the most. I’d put my money on him 😂 Aside from all that, he’s the only president in history to lose money during his term of office. All the other greedy bastards rape the position for their own gains. He donates his presidential salary every quarter to a worthy cause. Obama went in with a few hundred grand and left with £30m. Nancy and Creepy Joe earn from their positions a few hundred thousand per annum but are now millionaires. Ask more questions. My recommendation to you - read more!
So you feel attached for supporting Donald trump. ? And I thought liberals were the snowflakes 😂😂

momof5 - You are perfectly entitled to your view. I suppose I just feel I have to comment on what I perceive to be inaccuracies. I wish I had the personality to let it go but I don’t.

Freda
I also hate the c word. It’s womens genitals. Why do you think it’s the best insult to call someone women’s genitals ?? it’s demeaning to women.

You should never feel attacked for your beliefs MOM5, you’re entitled to think, like and do what the hell pleases you. You’re never going to please everyone and who is anybody else to police you’re beliefs. I’m proud to say I support Trump and Boris. I’ve reached my beliefs, as I’m sure you have, from life experiences and until something or anything happens to change my mind, then other people’s ideas have no bearing on my life. What others think of you is none of your business 😘

Trash talk like every other liberal spouting parrot fashion inaccuracy put out there as a smear campaign by a democrat paid media. Do your homework then come back with a valid reasoned argument then I might listen 😂


His father gave him £1m which he turned into £300m. That speaks volumes to me of what business acumen he possesses. Nobody ever said business was easy or a free ride. Everyone screws everyone else. He just happens to win the most. I’d put my money on him 😂 Aside from all that, he’s the only president in history to lose money during his term of office. All the other greedy bastards rape the position for their own gains. He donates his presidential salary every quarter to a worthy cause. Obama went in with a few hundred grand and left with £30m. Nancy and Creepy Joe earn from their positions a few hundred thousand per annum but are now millionaires. Ask more questions. My recommendation to you - read more!
Now I understand the clown face 😂😂😂😂 where did you get your facts ?



Gifts, loans, and other wealth from his father
According to an investigation by the New York Times, Donald Trump received at least $413 million (2018 prices) from his father's business empire.[2] The New York Times drew upon more than 100,000 pages of tax returns and financial records from Fred Trump's businesses and interviews with former advisers and employees, finding 295 distinct streams of revenue that Fred Trump created over five decades in order to channel his wealth to his son.[2][3]
Trust funds
Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father and paternal grandmother beginning in 1949 when he was three years old.[4] According to the New York Times, he "was a millionaire by age 28",[2][3] In 1976, Fred set up trust funds of $1 million ($4.5 million in 2019 dollars) for each of his five children and three grandchildren. Donald Trump received $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981 through the fund.[4]
Alleged tax-fraud schemes
Donald Trump was also involved in a number of purportedly fraudulent tax schemes. When Fred Trump sold shares in Trump Palacecondos to his son well below their purchase price, masking what could be considered a hidden donation, and benefiting from a tax write-off.[3] A lawyer for Trump denied the allegations, calling them "100 percent false, and highly defamatory". A spokesman for the New York State tax department said the agency was "vigorously pursuing all appropriate areas of investigation".[5] New York City officials also indicated they are examining the matter of Trump's alleged fraudulence.[6]
Inheritance
In 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's estate amounted to $3.5 million each.[7][4] Upon Fred Trump's death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[4][8][9]
Acknowledged loans from his father
His immense wealth from childhood notwithstanding, Trump has sought to burnish a reputation for business acumen by minimizing the amount of money he received from his father.[10] He has acknowledged borrowing just $1 million from his father as a young adult, in a sworn deposition and repeatedly on the campaign trail, calling his loan "a very small amount of money"[11][12]
 
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You should never feel attacked for your beliefs MOM5, you’re entitled to think, like and do what the hell pleases you. You’re never going to please everyone and who is anybody else to police you’re beliefs. I’m proud to say I support Trump and Boris. I’ve reached my beliefs, as I’m sure you have, from life experiences and until something or anything happens to change my mind, then other people’s ideas have no bearing on my life. What others think of you is none of your business 😘

Trash talk like every other liberal spouting parrot fashion inaccuracy put out there as a smear campaign by a democrat paid media. Do your homework then come back with a valid reasoned argument then I might listen 😂


His father gave him £1m which he turned into £300m. That speaks volumes to me of what business acumen he possesses. Nobody ever said business was easy or a free ride. Everyone screws everyone else. He just happens to win the most. I’d put my money on him 😂 Aside from all that, he’s the only president in history to lose money during his term of office. All the other greedy bastards rape the position for their own gains. He donates his presidential salary every quarter to a worthy cause. Obama went in with a few hundred grand and left with £30m. Nancy and Creepy Joe earn from their positions a few hundred thousand per annum but are now millionaires. Ask more questions. My recommendation to you - read more!
I very much doubt DT will leave office a poorer man!
 
I read plenty, I have critical thinking skills. I’m teaching them to my 10’year old daughter - very important in the internet age.
Some posters on here would really benefit from being able to think critically too. I can see that Donald Trump is funny. But that’s a job for comedians.

Because nothing says success like Bankruptcies - and why do it once when you can do it again and again.

A quote from the article which resonated with me

‘But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonus and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.’

that is not being a good business man. That is being a tit businessmen and a tit person !

 
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So you feel attached for supporting Donald trump. ? And I thought liberals were the snowflakes 😂😂

momof5 - You are perfectly entitled to your view. I suppose I just feel I have to comment on what I perceive to be inaccuracies. I wish I had the personality to let it go but I don’t.

Freda
I also hate the c word. It’s womens genitals. Why do you think it’s the best insult to call someone women’s genitals ?? it’s demeaning to women.



Now I understand the clown face 😂😂😂😂 where did you get your facts ?



Gifts, loans, and other wealth from his father
According to an investigation by the New York Times, Donald Trump received at least $413 million (2018 prices) from his father's business empire.[2] The New York Times drew upon more than 100,000 pages of tax returns and financial records from Fred Trump's businesses and interviews with former advisers and employees, finding 295 distinct streams of revenue that Fred Trump created over five decades in order to channel his wealth to his son.[2][3]
Trust funds
Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father and paternal grandmother beginning in 1949 when he was three years old.[4] According to the New York Times, he "was a millionaire by age 28",[2][3] In 1976, Fred set up trust funds of $1 million ($4.5 million in 2019 dollars) for each of his five children and three grandchildren. Donald Trump received $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981 through the fund.[4]
Alleged tax-fraud schemes
Donald Trump was also involved in a number of purportedly fraudulent tax schemes. When Fred Trump sold shares in Trump Palacecondos to his son well below their purchase price, masking what could be considered a hidden donation, and benefiting from a tax write-off.[3] A lawyer for Trump denied the allegations, calling them "100 percent false, and highly defamatory". A spokesman for the New York State tax department said the agency was "vigorously pursuing all appropriate areas of investigation".[5] New York City officials also indicated they are examining the matter of Trump's alleged fraudulence.[6]
Inheritance
In 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's estate amounted to $3.5 million each.[7][4] Upon Fred Trump's death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[4][8][9]
Acknowledged loans from his father
His immense wealth from childhood notwithstanding, Trump has sought to burnish a reputation for business acumen by minimizing the amount of money he received from his father.[10] He has acknowledged borrowing just $1 million from his father as a young adult, in a sworn deposition and repeatedly on the campaign trail, calling his loan "a very small amount of money"[11][12]
When I said read more I didn’t mean Wikipedia 🙄 when you rely on Wiki you’ve lost the argument 🤡😂
 
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I find it really hard to reconcile peoples ideas is Trump a good businessman ?
His wealth was inherited from his dad.
He’s had Numerous bankruptcies- how is that good business ?
He’s known for Stiffing contractors - how is that good business ?
American banks refused to lend to him - does that sound like good business ?

He’s such a good businessman he’s hiding his taxes - because he doesn’t want people to know what it in them becuase they show how much he’s really worth and where his dodgy money came from.

The republicans preach fiscal responsibility / small government and then he blows up the deficit. he will bankrupt the country just like he has his own companies. A grown up will have to come in and fix his mess.

As a teacher I’d also be wary of the way he’s trying to get his mitts on the pension funds. He’d bankrupt them in a heart beat too
Yes, of course we don't really know what he's worth as he's kept that a closely guarded secret (for obvious reasons). But any money he has made has been through fraud, declaring bankruptcy etc. Someone did a very good breakdown of how he would be financially better off if he'd just invested the money his father made. He's a con man and nothing else. It's quite clear that he has completely lost his brian function as well.
 
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When I said read more I didn’t mean Wikipedia 🙄 when you rely on Wiki you’ve lost the argument 🤡😂
Im in my forties so I remember the hello covers with Ivanka, i visited his tacky Taj Mahal with all the cardboard cut-outs of the miss worlds 😂😂😂 when I worked in the US one summer as a student. I was chatting with a surgeon recently who worked in the US as a caddy while a student, trump was mocked then too.

I remember the bankruptcies, the articles in various publications over the years and and wondering why anyone would give him a penny, unless they were complete morons.
he was mildly entertaining in the apprentice but had the business acumen of a puddle, like a parasite he was quite good at landing on something, sucking every thing good out of it and moving on to the next thing.
 
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Im in my forties so I remember the hello covers with Ivanka, i visited his tacky Taj Mahal with all the cardboard cut-outs of the miss worlds 😂😂😂 when I worked in the US one summer as a student. I was chatting with a surgeon recently who worked in the US as a caddy while a student, trump was mocked then too.

I remember the bankruptcies, the articles in various publications over the years and and wondering why anyone would give him a penny, unless they were complete morons.
he was mildly entertaining in the apprentice but had the business acumen of a puddle, like a parasite he was quite good at landing on something, sucking every thing good out of it and moving on to the next thing.
One things for sure, he’s way more successful than you or me 👍 His Family seems to adore him, he can’t be all bad. But, the Inquisition have it in for him. It always amuses me when people always want to knock someone more successful than themselves off their pedestal. It seems to be an ugly aspect of human nature. I’m in my 60s, bet I remember more than you 😂
 
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I think by the way he acts and treats people during his nightly briefings is enough to let the world know exactly what a moron he is. Good luck to his poor family and the women he bought to be by his side are serving their own penance :sick:
 
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