Delphi murders

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There’s a lot of sensationalist nonsense going around about RA not being the right man, but seeing as he said stuff that only the killer could know, I wouldn’t listen to it too much.
 
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I knew there would be twists and turns but I’m worried as well. Keep telling myself it’s only just started, hopefully the prosecution has an incredibly strong case with irrefutable evidence that we haven’t heard about yet.
It took them 7 years to charge someone, I think their case is circumstantial other than the bullet which hasn't been fired and there is doubt from many people that bullets can be linked to specific guns especially when they haven't been fired. It's a common gun and bullet in the area, even the police use that type from what I've heard.
 
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It took them 7 years to charge someone, I think their case is circumstantial other than the bullet which hasn't been fired and there is doubt from many people that bullets can be linked to specific guns especially when they haven't been fired. It's a common gun and bullet in the area, even the police use that type from what I've heard.
Yes I’ve also heard there are other guns that would make those markings if a bullet was cycled through them
 
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Haven’t heard anything relating to them being positioned in a sacrificial way with branches and leaves etc, something about it being a cult killing was released a year or so ago but nothing so far in the trial (unless I’ve missed it)
The prosecution haven't found any link between Richard Allen and Odinism, and I think the defense have been banned from mentioning it. (Personally, I suspect the ritualistic stuff was the killer trying to throw people off the scent and not a genuine lead anyway).
 
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I've just read that one of the first witnesses has placed a taller man with blonde hair poking out of a mask on the trail at the time - saying they were taller than her. She is 5'7 and RA is only 5'5. Havent looked at today's details yet.
 
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A mask? This was before Covid, wouldn’t that be a weird thing to see?
I don’t think it’s that kind of mask. More like a face covering / scarf type garment that you’d wear on a cold winters day. Wouldn’t be out of place or raise any eyebrows normally, however that February day was particularly mild, so there wouldn’t be a need for it.
 
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So glad Lawyer Lee and Andrea Burkhart are covering this. Honestly it sounds like the investigation was a complete shambles and I'm nowhere near convinced that the killer is RA at this time.

RIP Libby and Abby. You didn't deserve this and Libby you were so brave in trying to get evidence so your killer(s) could be brought to justice, I'm sorry the Indiana State Police weren't up to the job.
 
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So glad Lawyer Lee and Andrea Burkhart are covering this. Honestly it sounds like the investigation was a complete shambles and I'm nowhere near convinced that the killer is RA at this time.

RIP Libby and Abby. You didn't deserve this and Libby you were so brave in trying to get evidence so your killer(s) could be brought to justice, I'm sorry the Indiana State Police weren't up to the job.
Out of curiosity why do you think it wasn’t him/who else could it be?
 
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Out of curiosity why do you think it wasn’t him/who else could it be?
The descriptions of "Bridge Guy" sound nothing like him, RA is short for a man 5ft5 and Bridge Guy has been described as both tall and average height. Three girls saw a "grumpy man" around 2.15 which sounds like RA in a different area of the park than where the girls went missing. The video Libby took of Bridge Guy was filmed at 2.13.

Obviously more might come out through the evidence but I'm not convinced at this time that RA is guilty.
 
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The descriptions of "Bridge Guy" sound nothing like him, RA is short for a man 5ft5 and Bridge Guy has been described as both tall and average height. Three girls saw a "grumpy man" around 2.15 which sounds like RA in a different area of the park than where the girls went missing. The video Libby took of Bridge Guy was filmed at 2.13.

Obviously more might come out through the evidence but I'm not convinced at this time that RA is guilty.
To me, there seems to have been a lot of changed\missing evidence.

The witness that saw RA 'muddy and bloody' didnt have the 'bloody' part written down into her statement. Now she is a witness, she is saying she always said bloody. so the police have ducked up there.

There was also (early on) confusingly 2 e-fit's produced, looking nothing like each other. One very much younger than RA appears

Some people on the trail mentioned a tall man all in black. He's never been found as far as I am aware?

The coroner initially said that 2 knives could have been used as there were sharp and serrated injuries. Now in their witness statement 2 days ago the coroner is saying 1 knife.

I'm not saying he's innocent, but could he have had an accomplice? Have the police got a patsy? After all he self reported himself being on that trail that day, would you do that if you were the murderer?
 
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The descriptions of "Bridge Guy" sound nothing like him, RA is short for a man 5ft5 and Bridge Guy has been described as both tall and average height. Three girls saw a "grumpy man" around 2.15 which sounds like RA in a different area of the park than where the girls went missing. The video Libby took of Bridge Guy was filmed at 2.13.

Obviously more might come out through the evidence but I'm not convinced at this time that RA is guilty.
This was the same group of girls who Libby messaged as they arrived to see if the group were on the trails? And the group messaged back saying they had left. I think (again not 100% certain) this was mentioned at trial and she said 2:15 was an estimate however the text data shows Libby had text prior to 2:15 and the girls had responded saying they'd left. So their Bridge Guy sighting was earlier than they thought.

The issue I'm struggling with is Richard Allen places himself at the trails when the girls were there, was seen by the group of 3 girls who also saw him and said the man they passed was the guy in Libbys video. He places himself on platform 1 of the bridge when a lady spotted a man on platform 1 just before she turned around and saw Abby and Libby walking up the trail. This was just before the Bridge Guy video. This same witness testified that she was over 50 yards away and could have mistake a hat/hood for hair. He also didn't see anyone there to abduct the girls and didn't see them walk past him on the bridge...

So he's there, places himself in these spots where a male is seen. In the same clothes that Bridge Guy is wearing in the video. No other male is spotted on the bridge or trail by anyone, not even Richard Allen. (By that I mean no one other than the witnesses say is bridge guy)

So either he's the unluckiest person alive to be in the same place, wearing the same outfit as bridge guy, or he did it.
 
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So glad Lawyer Lee and Andrea Burkhart are covering this. Honestly it sounds like the investigation was a complete shambles and I'm nowhere near convinced that the killer is RA at this time.
Where's this please? Would like to attempt to follow.
 
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This case is such a mess. Were they killed in the same place they were found? Why did the phone reconnect in the middle of the night? Keegan Kline (and the Anthony shotz account) Ron Logan, and all the other possible suspects muddy the waters too. Judge Gull is not impressing me. The state of the girls at the crime scene and the timeline and all the people out that day doesn’t add up. The killer should have been a holy mess and gotten dna everywhere. There should have been noise. Even with a gun because once he hurts one girl, the other would react unless she was gagged, but that adds more time to the crime which doesn’t fit the timeline. These victims may have captured their killer which is huge evidence but it doesn’t seem to help and it’s also difficult to see how one guy could do this. Usually you begin to get answers at trial and instead it’s just more questions and confusion.
 
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Where's this please? Would like to attempt to follow.
They are both lawyers with YouTube channels, the names I've used are their channel name. They are each live streaming every evening after the court day (usually around midnight).
 
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When he was finally arrested they told him any damage to the house would be sorted during the search but Allen replied “It doesn’t matter, it’s over,”
If your innocent that’s a strange thing to say, it wasn’t recorded however.
 
When he was finally arrested they told him any damage to the house would be sorted during the search but Allen replied “It doesn’t matter, it’s over,”
If your innocent that’s a strange thing to say, it wasn’t recorded however.
And they may not be able to trust the recollection of the police officer unfortunately.
 
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When he was finally arrested they told him any damage to the house would be sorted during the search but Allen replied “It doesn’t matter, it’s over,”
If your innocent that’s a strange thing to say, it wasn’t recorded however.
This just doesn’t make sense. Surely once you have your suspect you’d make sure everything was recorded! Either with cctv in the car or bodycam. I understand RA was with a lieutenant in a car whilst the search was going on when this allegedly was said and yet there’s no proof?! Cross examination will be all over this.
 
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So messed up, bloodied sticks left at the crime scene, hair in the hand of one of the girls not tested or processed 😳
The state didn’t have the height of “bridge guy” analysed from the video, that would have been huge to help prove their case.
 
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