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It’s horrible and you’ve ended up getting your hopes up but the redeeming thing is he was upfront about not wanting anything serious and seeing other people so chances are he did think it was chilled and thought nothing off going quiet. To men situations like this go over their head.
 
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I’m very new to the dating game. So far I’m finding it very stressful It’s so different to when I was last single. I went on a great first date with a guy last weekend, I thought it went really well and we arranged to do something this weekend. Haven’t heard from him since Tuesday. Surely that’s a no then? Would a guy really expect me to keep a precious Saturday evening free and then not bother to text me at all? I’ve actually been asked out on a bumble date instead so may just let first guy know I’m not willing to wait to be messed around. The audacity! Im a busy person!
 
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Anyone have any date plans this weekend?
Yes! I’m meeting up with a Spanish guy I met from Bumble. Been talking for about two months, got loads in common, not sure if anything romantic will come of it as we haven’t discussed anything like that but I do fancy him after face timing etc. Nervous but not
 
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My advice would be not to bother texting the first guy. He doesn’t deserve the courtesy. You clearly want someone who keeps in touch, is engaged and proactive about planning the second date - that is not unreasonable, he is not demonstrating the behaviour you find attractive. Don’t waste more time on him, move onto someone who does.

Sadly many of these men see the apps as a conveyor belt of women to pick up and discard as they see fit. Often they will suggest a second date to keep you on a holding bench whilst they work their way through other women, then pop up out of the blue like nothing has happened with a “hey, how are you?”

This might be accompanied by a compliment or a “was just thinking about you” or they may flip it to somehow suggest it was your fault the meeting didn’t go ahead because they didn’t hear from you.

Sometimes you’ll get an excuse about them being really busy despite the fact you’ve seen them online multiple times on WhatsApp and the fact no one is so busy that they are unable to send a text message. Dead or ill relatives are also used to pull at the heart strings.

Once you’re aware of these common patterns of behaviour you can smile wryly when you spot them rather than being puzzled or angry and just ignore them. Men who are interested make an effort.
 
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Men that are interested text you every single day as far as I’m concerned, I wouldn’t bother texting him.
 
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As usual, @Clickbait is on the money. Interesting point about the voice notes, I didn't know that. Very true about the WhatsApp messages, I know myself that sometimes I don't open a message until I'm ready to reply, so that I don't read it and forget! Sometimes after a busy day working I'll have multiple unread messages even though I've been online.

Did you say it's been over a week?! That's just downright rude and disrespectful. I think my limit would be 3-4 days of no contact before I smelt a rat.

Please keep us updated. I know you didn't have the "official" conversation and perhaps he will always use that as a fall back for being a s**t, but you don't go on holiday for a week with someone and then disappear. Have you tried calling him? Or is that not really something you two ever did? I know it's the done thing to not pursue something too much if you're clearly being blanked like this, but I personally think these days I'm too old and ugly to "play it cool" and seem like I don't care. A voice note is a great idea as you'll gauge whether or not he's intrigued and interested in listening to it. I wouldn't be able to resist listening even if I was trying to distance myself from someone.

Let us know - my gut instinct is that he'll come crawling back with some explanation and I'll be very interested to hear it...
 
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It is my gut instinct to give this guy a slap (although I don't condone violence)

It was triggering reading your current situation @doodlebug . I would have said the exact same things as you when I initially started seeing the Narc. Even the type of words and phrases you are using !
The guy said he didn't want anything serious yet his actions were different . He's a complete idiot to now just ghost you once things aren't going his way. And also, I know this sounds childish, but he is purposely avoiding because you mentioned your birthday, in case you might think he'll make some kind of gesture to mark ...like flowers or a gift.

I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but you do not need this type of man in your life.

Also he will contact you again, I'm guessing about three days after your birthday you'll get message 'Hey sorry I haven't been in touch, work has been crazy '

Also , I'm fuming with him and I hate being so blunt, but if he was seeing other people, chances are someone else is getting his attention right now.

Any man that gives a woman they are involved with (casual or committed) the silent treatment needs to be avoided.

Keep messaging him all you want, send long paragraphs but he will only reply when he wants to.
 
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So he did reply this morning. Literally acted like everything was normal. Literally, ALL he said was hey !!!! wtf. I asked him if everything was good on his end because he’d been quiet and a bit off. He just said he’d been away (so I guess he went to the rugby after all) and he was busy entertaining his sister as she came down to visit (which I do remember him mentioning). Also said he’d been busy with work. That was all. Didn’t ask how I was or anything lol.

Idk guys I might not even reply. (But I also don’t want to come across like I now have an issue with him because I don’t). I don’t want there to be any ag. Admittedly I panicked when I thought he’d just peaced out just like that. That was my issue. But I don’t think it’s my place to now be like …sooo do you want to hang out?

So this leaves us where? It’s just kind of messy. All of a sudden I cba.
 
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I’d leave it.. I think he’s treating you as a low priority and he won’t change that. Asking him to hang out would be like asking for scraps.
 
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@doodlebug the holy trinity of excuses - family busy with work been away/spent time with friends If he’d have just said his nan was ill you’d have got this week’s star prize!

This feels like a slow phase out by the sounds of it. If you compare where you were (going away on holiday together) to now (can’t find the time to send you a text message) it’s going in the wrong direction for a secure and stress free relationship. There could be many reasons for this, I’m not sure you feel you need to know what they are though.

Just recognise he’s not behaved very well here and will probably continue to flit in and out of your life if you allow him to and I don’t think that’s what you want.
 
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Perfectly said.
@Clickbait where were you 4 years ago
 
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I’m not for one second bragging here but none of those excuses wash with me. My boyfriend will text while he’s away for the weekend, during his spare couple of minutes at work or as he gets home if it’s been a manic one and when his grandad was ill it was me he text for comfort.

Every time we read those excuses on this thread it’s followed by them vanishing.
 
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Perfectly said.
@Clickbait where were you 4 years ago
Darling, believe me it took me years and many mistakes to get my shit together! I wish I knew then what I know now, I wouldn’t have wasted years of my life on men who did not deserve it. Some of the crap and nonsense I put up with is sickening.

https://giphy.com/3o85xnoIXebk3xYx4Q
Sadly we often need to make mistakes and get burned to learn from them. And even then we can still slip up.
 
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He is your boyfriend so you would expect this level of contact.

Most of the scenarios discussed on this are not related to partners so the level of contact will always be a grey area
 
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Always so spot on.
 
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The person who was drunk texting me and sending me voice notes whilst away with the lads has asked me on a date on Sunday! Think we’re going bowling as I went earlier in the week with work and he’s been bragging about beating me we live quite far away but he’s said he’s happy to travel to me which is nice.
He also said there’s a video saved on his Snapchat from that drunk weekend that my name is mentioned in but he won’t send it to me gona say if I win at bowling he has to show me hahah he’s promised it wasn’t anything bad
It’s nice to be looking forward to a first date!
 
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I'm so excited for you!
 
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Brilliant. This sounds like so much fun. I like the sound of him
 
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Ugh. I guess at this point, what could he have ever really said though. The damage is kind of done when he left you hanging for a week! If he’d apologised profusely it would have been for all the same reasons, I’m not sure what’s worse actually that he didn’t bother with anything other than “hey” or if he’d tried to dress it up with excuses.

I’m very similar when you say you don’t want any ah in that I always want a stress and argument free life. Unfortunately it means that sometimes we don’t address things that need to be because we can’t be arsed with the arguments/confrontation that comes with it.

You sound like you’ve got your head screwed on and you’re quite a chilled out person. Honestly, i wouldn’t reply to him now. If nothing else it’ll save you the heartache and sleepless nights which were all too family with, wondering why he hasn’t replied. Take the power from him. Keep us in the loop and enjoy your birthday! Don’t let him get in your head xx
 
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If Paris Hilton has finally managed find someone decent enough to marry her after all her disastrous track-record, I think we'll all going to be fine

Don't lose hope!
 
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