COVID-19 vaccine #19 & general vaccine conversation

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grampositive

monga said:
It’s only listing blood clots as a side effect not actual VITT which is completely different.
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Why do you see this as different? Something being listed as a side effect is the same as saying it is vaccine induced.

Why aren't you concerned with the other side effects? It doesn't say "vaccine induced headache", "vaccine induced arm pain", "vaccine induced nausea" - because it is obvious they are vaccine induced when listed as a side effect.

You've gone from claiming that it was not present in the leaflet, to now claiming there are other spurious issues, without ever acknowledging you were wrong in the first place../
 

Prefrontalmedialcortex

I don’t really agree with what you are saying because some posters will post things or articles which claim they are factual when they are not. If people didn’t give a shit about Covid-19 or the vaccines this thread would be dead but it isn’t.

Your final point about people gossiping about their experiences, some do but others post about the vaccines. Offering a difference perspective or point of view - whether debunking, fact checking or pointing out that people’s posts are not accurate, is not childish. There has to be a balance in an argument or discussion.
 
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grampositive

You seem to have deliberately cropped out my last sentence to mislead...

It takes away from actual issues regarding the vaccines & their roll out - everything gets lost under a smokescreen of crap and nothing is taken seriously.

It's a genuine point I was interested in people's opinions on - by pushing misinformation, valid concerns get lost. You don't see that as a problem?
 

monga

I’m not wrong is a sore arm going to potentially kill me I don’t see VITT on here

Patient Information Leaflet for Vaxzevria - Last updated November 2023

www.gov.uk
Thrombocytopenia has many causes while VITT has only one

Coronavirus » Vaccine-induced thrombocytopenia and thrombosis (VITT) Support for patients family members

www.england.nhs.uk
 

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Prefrontalmedialcortex

Have you seen the tone of some other posters on here… I think @grampositive has come across well in their posts without resulting to name calling and insults unlike others.
 
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Emmelina Ball

But it’s up to the reader to make the call on whether they believe the source or not. Not other users shouting them down because they don’t believe it. Everyone has different views and we are all sharing individual opinions - pouncing on someone’s every post to fact check or tell them they’re wrong is just childish in my opinion.

I refute your last point because arguing with other members is against the rules.
 
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Prefrontalmedialcortex

By the time the vaccine was rolled out the virus was NOT much milder. Have you forgotten the Kent and Delta variant?

No one is shouting anyone down. I am not saying ‘argument’ in literal terms, you don’t need to tell me arguing is against the rules, I know this already. I meant it as in a discussion, an in the saying ‘there are two sides to an argument.’
 
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Emmelina Ball

Well actually there are 3 sides. The truth and then both peoples versions of events.
Lets leave it here it’s gone off topic and very boring.
 
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monga

That’s not listed under side effects plus it still doesn’t mention VITT



What happened to saving mankind protecting the vulnerable now it’s a rich man’s game
 
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monga

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It's these type of events they don't seem to be looking into it'd been put down to coincidence or covid .

I see this article hasn’t been retracted yet

Increased emergency cardiovascular events among under-40 population in Israel during vaccine rollout and third COVID-19 wave - Scientific Reports

Cardiovascular adverse conditions are caused by coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections and reported as side-effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. Enriching current vaccine safety surveillance systems with additional data sources may improve the understanding of COVID-19 vaccine safety. Using...
www.nature.com
 
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Purrrrrrr

There also used to be many more who didn't want it, were injured by it and who lost people through it.

Remember this thread was started for those who didn't want the vaccine, for some reason it was then turned into a general vaccine thread. but it explains why most here are those who have a problem with the vaccine.
 
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Poddular

HORROR STORY: "I Died After The 3rd Moderna Booster."

The below twitter thread is a lengthy and extremely disturbing account of DEATHVAX™ adverse events suffered by both a young Canadian man and his fiancé. Warning: there are graphic hospital images and disturbing medical content.This substack is a daily battle against evil. Please consider...
2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com

Lucky to have survived
 
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