Again - this is a false dichotomy.
Vaccination reduces transmission, it reduces the "disruption" you're referring to. On a population-level, offering vaccination makes a huge difference in reducing impacts on *everyone*.
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Vaccination reduces transmission, it reduces the "disruption" you're referring to. On a population-level, offering vaccination makes a huge difference in reducing impacts on *everyone*.
No it’s not, it’s not saying anything of the sort.
Vaccine’s are not hand wash, they are drugs that come with a plethora of side effects.
You have completely misunderstood my post.
This isn't a comparison of vaccines to handwashing - it's about this false dichotomy of claiming that if something doesn't work 100%, it's not beneficial.
I am not talking about an individual getting vaccinated (or not) - I was answering as to what is the point of offering vaccination, & how this benefits the general population.
Side effects for some people, albeit rare. And no one is being made to take them.
They're not vaccinating the population though , so the impact won't be felt ( if there is any ) .
^^ @Emmelina Ball
What do you mean?
As has been said several times, the vaccines are being offered to certain demographics in the population. This will reduce infections, transmission, severity of illness, time people spend on sick leave, hospitilisations etc. This will benefit everyone.
Side effects are common. Most people get at least one side effect from vaccination. Could be a sore arm at the site of injection, a headache, or even VITT. You yourself had side effects you mentioned earlier no?! Didn’t you say that was expected following vaccination and that’s why you felt it wasn’t covid?!
Not very good examples you’re offering IMO.
I'm confused @Emmelina Ball -why do think the examples I've given are not "good"? Which specifically?
I assumed you meant the more severe side effects, as I don't think many people would refuse a vaccine if the worst they were gonna get was a sore arm or headache.
Only on those that receive it, people can still catch and pass it on .
I never said severe. I said side effects. There are many, as you know, you described them earlier didn’t you?!
Yeah and I'll have another one knowing I'm only likely to get a sore arm and maybe some mild flu symptoms for 24 hours. As I believe it's worth it for the protection it offers.
Again - you misunderstand.
Firstly, vaccination reduces likelihood of both infection & transmission.
Secondly - reducing the impacts of coronavirus (or any infectious disease) benefits everyone. Even if you personally are at zero risk of getting COVID. We all lose out when resources are being sucked up by an infectious disease, which is why it makes sense to try and mitigate it's impacts.
Say you are waiting on surgery for hydronephrosis. It's non-urgent, but causing you a great deal of pain day-to-day. Surgeons can't admit you until there's a bed available. Unfortunately, due to the number of COVID patients in hospital, this keeps getting delayed. Offering vaccination reduces the number of infections, onward transmissions, hospital staff needing sick leave, patients admitted etc - this will increase the likelihood of bed availability for you and everyone else.
You can still get the mild flu symptoms for free they don’t stop you catching it
That’s good for you, doesn’t change my point, if anything it confirms what I was saying so thanks for that
I don’t believe it I’ve seen the proof first hand.
They don't 100% stop it, but they reduce the chance.You can still get the mild flu symptoms for free they don’t stop you catching it
No worries. Your anti vaxx shite will never work on me, so matter how hard you try.That’s good for you, doesn’t change my point, if anything it confirms what I was saying so thanks for that
They don’tThey don't 100% stop it, but they reduce the chance.
No worries. Your anti vaxx shite will never work on me, so matter how hard you try.
Proof of what specifically?
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