Why do you think that when there have been previous pandemics that have still allowed us to reach the normal we had? What do you think will permanently change?
I haven't insulted you, you keep repeating that all people are being asked to do is was their hands which is far from the case and I don't know why you are insisting it is. Implying I don't want to wash my hands and I'm a horrible person with no empathy is just false. Where is the empathy for the millions of people worried about putting food on the table?
We cant live like this forever even the simple things like going to the cinema is a hassle.
Ok I didn't know that!
But the economy cannot run like that! Restaurants and pubs need full capacity to turn profit, they now have half of their customers if not less, and that’s best case scenario. People don’t go to the shops - shops close, who suffers - all the shop assistants, shop owners, landlords, estate agents, solicitors, accountants. It’s a landslide. People don’t fly - stewardesses, pilots, all the people who work in airports, people who serve the airplanes, people who make airplanes and parts for them, people who produce fuel.
Do you know what, I haven't. And I get free tickets. Maybe I will go on Thurs and report back!
Sweden have 57 people per sq mile, compared to the UK with 1010 People per sq mile.
I have family in Sweden and I'm not sure this is 100% the case. A lot of things that have stopped here are still going ahead. My cousins are involved in Scouting and they have been doing the usual summer camps etc with hardly any social distancing from what I have seen.
Exactly. Nothing is truly enjoyable at the moment because of the implementations which have been put in. Doesn't mean I'm not adhering to them in order to have some enjoyment at the moment though, and to get out of the other side of it all.
Exactly this. Their entire country's population is on par with London!
I didn't say it would permanently change I said we have to live with it till a vaccine or treatment becomes available ,but people going against it instead of working with it is just making things worse infections are rising and lockdowns are occurring that is a fact ..
Sorry but I just wholeheartedly think you are wrong.
Calling someone “obtuse” is an insult, and I can only take someone as they present themselves, which is perhaps something you should consider. Losing employment and losing a loved one aren’t the same and I won’t treat them as so. One is worrying if you don’t have other options or savings, the other is absolutely devastating. I’m not going to engage with you anymore, your lack of understanding of this virus is evident and I hope your family never have to experience what mine has.
I think the point is that those shielding aren’t the only vulnerable ones in all this now. People are losing jobs businesses are collapsing some self employed people have been totally forgotten in all this too. The financial and mental health fallout from this year will be horrific. My partner will probably be re-furloughed and his workplace are also cutting jobs, all agency staff have already been given the boot so now the more experienced workers are on the chopping block. Hopefully his will be safe but... it’s very unnerving especially as there doesn’t seem much hope of me being able to find work with how things are going and having been a sahm for the past few years, it’s why the thought of a second lockdown is terrifying, it feels like it’ll seal our fate. Local lockdowns seem utterly pointless anyway yet will cause more damage to the economy. At some point things need to start resembling some sense of normality, it’s happened with previous pandemics, what’s so special about Covid? Now significantly less people are dying, we really need to start considering all kinds of vulnerability caused by this pandemic. Health is important of course, but so is being able to keep a roof over your head, stability for the children, not being stuck with your domestic abuser (dv reports doubled during lockdown where I am) and staying mentally well.
Yes I agree but it's all we have right now ,since masks were brought in supermarkets have seen a loss in customers .Shielders and vulnerable are different categories there will be many more vulnerable people than there will be shielders if all these people were to isolate the economy will take a massive hit anyway from schools to supermarkets to hospitals that's why it's better to work with the advice than against it till treatments etc are found.
Yes I agree but ignoring the advice isn't going to get us any further forward it just adds to more lockdowns
