Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #114

Ensay · Jan 21, 2022

Jaynefnw said:
Sounds like I would get on well with your mum haha

A work colleague of mine tells the customers in a loud voice that she is going to go get some gloves because you have just licked your fingers
Sadly one customer rang up our boss and complained about her saying this to them .... She got dragged upstairs and told to be more polite...... Unbelievable even if covid wasn't around us staff shouldn't have to touch another person's spit when handling cash.

That customer sounds like an idiot. I worked as a checkout operator many years ago and it annoyed me when people licked notes to hand to me and this was long before covid. There's no need anyway as you can easily separate bank notes, I sometimes think they did it to flash the cash. No one's impressed.

There's something really shitty about taking the time to call in a complaint about one member of staff - unless they'd been really horrible or did something obviously wrong. Sounds like one of those customers who thinks all supermarket staff are there to be talked down. I hate that attitude.

Anyway, getting off my soap box now!

Mbouzer · Jan 21, 2022

Abcd123 said:
Myself and partner tested posnon Wednesday. I've been snotty for a few days. It's quite thick green when I blow my nose. is this normal with omicron? Wondering if i have a cold on top of covid... I do suffer with my sinuses and had a sinus infection recently too... tia.

Don’t worry your body is just fighting it. My toddler had bright green/yellow snot for her two worst days, now its cleared up and shes on the mend and no longer snotty. Maybe inhale some steam or get a warm shower to try and loosen it, your body is just trying to get rid of the virus.

Kim Mild · Jan 21, 2022

Ensay said:
That customer sounds like an idiot. I worked as a checkout operator many years ago and it annoyed me when people licked notes to hand to me and this was long before covid. There's no need anyway as you can easily separate bank notes, I sometimes think they did it to flash the cash. No one's impressed.

There's something really shitty about taking the time to call in a complaint about one member of staff - unless they'd been really horrible or did something obviously wrong. Sounds like one of those customers who thinks all supermarket staff are there to be talked down. I hate that attitude.

Anyway, getting off my soap box now!

Pre- covid , if a costumer ever complained I was rude , my response would have been that it's not me who was coughing without covering my mouth, as it was rare to see a customer actually do so.

Purrrrrrr · Jan 21, 2022

Prefrontalmedialcortex said:
I think it’s a bit extreme to say that it is child abuse…

I don't.

My daughter took her children out of school because of this absolute farse

I’m a Public School Teacher. The Kids Aren’t Alright.

My students were taught to think of themselves as vectors of disease. This has fundamentally altered their understanding of themselves.

bariweiss.substack.com

Lilykins · Jan 21, 2022

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My school isn’t getting rid of this requirement for a while I think.

Ensay · Jan 21, 2022

cubegame said:
Schools in open revolt over masks

Schools across England are in open rebellion against the Government over masks as more than 100 head teachers have written to parents warning that children must continue wearing face coverings.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If this is true there are 100 head teachers who shouldn't be working as forcing pupils to wear masks is child abuse....plain and simple.

There are far too many health extremists that have been brainwashed over the course of the pandemic and it needs fixing.

As they are so addicted to the "rules" I think the most appropriate thing to do right now is for Parliament to revise the face covering regulation to actually make it an offence to encourage or co-erce people to wear a mask. That would focus a few minds.

Where would this offence apply to, just schools? Or even private businesses?

If the latter, then why can't a business owner be allowed to request customers wear masks if they enter their property? (i.e. their shop)?

Abcd123 · Jan 21, 2022

Mbouzer said:
Don’t worry your body is just fighting it. My toddler had bright green/yellow snot for her two worst days, now its cleared up and shes on the mend and no longer snotty. Maybe inhale some steam or get a warm shower to try and loosen it, your body is just trying to get rid of the virus.

Thanks for the reassurance just didn't know if that was normal or not! x

Dollenganger · Jan 21, 2022

cubegame · Jan 22, 2022

Ensay said:
Where would this offence apply to, just schools? Or even private businesses?

If the latter, then why can't a business owner be allowed to request customers wear masks if they enter their property? (i.e. their shop)?

Because, quite simply, no single person or group has been able to definitively prove that masks do anything to prevent the spread of this virus. They have been mandated merely to make people remember there is a pandemic going on because the vector causing the pandemic is not actually significant to the vast majority. They have also provided a useful crutch to those who have been manipulated into a heightened sense of fear.

The most enthusiastic proponents of masks need to have their relative benefits compared to their drawbacks hammered home. As the negatives outweigh the positives on a health basis alone then a business owner requiring masks is actually putting their customers at risk for no reason at all.

Prefrontalmedialcortex · Jan 22, 2022

cubegame said:
Because, quite simply, no single person or group has been able to definitively prove that masks do anything to prevent the spread of this virus. They have been mandated merely to make people remember there is a pandemic going on because the vector causing the pandemic is not actually significant to the vast majority. They have also provided a useful crutch to those who have been manipulated into a heightened sense of fear.

The most enthusiastic proponents of masks need to have their relative benefits compared to their drawbacks hammered home. As the negatives outweigh the positives on a health basis alone then a business owner requiring masks is actually putting their customers at risk for no reason at all.

Plenty of research to show masks are effective.

Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis

Objective To review the evidence on the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. Design Systematic review and meta-analysis. Data sources Medline, Embase, CINAHL, Biosis, Joanna Briggs, Global Health, and...

www.bmj.com

Mask-wearing and control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in the USA: a cross-sectional study

The widespread reported use of face masks combined with physical distancing increases the odds of SARS-CoV-2 transmission control. Self-reported mask-wearing increased separately from government mask mandates, suggesting that supplemental public health interventions are needed to maximise...

www.thelancet.com

Purrrrrrr · Jan 22, 2022

Don't know if this has been posted?

Ensay · Jan 22, 2022

cubegame said:
Because, quite simply, no single person or group has been able to definitively prove that masks do anything to prevent the spread of this virus. They have been mandated merely to make people remember there is a pandemic going on because the vector causing the pandemic is not actually significant to the vast majority. They have also provided a useful crutch to those who have been manipulated into a heightened sense of fear.

The most enthusiastic proponents of masks need to have their relative benefits compared to their drawbacks hammered home. As the negatives outweigh the positives on a health basis alone then a business owner requiring masks is actually putting their customers at risk for no reason at all.

Well, your point about masks having no impact is demonstrably false (as @Prefrontalmedialcortex points out in the link they provided).

I wear a mask not out of fear but out of courtesy. If I have covid then I’m less likely to spread it to others. So your post is conjecture.

But, that notwithstanding, your post has a slight sinister edge to it. “I will hammer my opinion home until everyone agrees with me!”

HoGi · Jan 22, 2022

Ensay said:
Where would this offence apply to, just schools? Or even private businesses?

If the latter, then why can't a business owner be allowed to request customers wear masks if they enter their property? (i.e. their shop)?

Before the second mask mandate some shops and beauty salons near me were still saying no mask no entry.

They have also confirmed when the mask mandate is dropped they will still be enforcing masks.

Prefrontalmedialcortex · Jan 22, 2022

Ensay said:
Well, your point about masks having no impact is demonstrably false (as @Prefrontalmedialcortex points out in the link they provided).

I wear a mask not out of fear but out of courtesy. If I have covid then I’m less likely to spread it to others. So your post is conjecture.

But, that notwithstanding, your post has a slight sinister edge to it. “I will hammer my opinion home until everyone agrees with me!”

I have plenty more to link if needed. I wouldn’t say I wear a mask out of fear, yes I am concerned about Covid but I also believe they do something in terms of reducing spread - as is evident in the studies.

HoGi said:
Before the second mask mandate some shops and beauty salons near me were still saying no mask no entry.

They have also confirmed when the mask mandate is dropped they will still be enforcing masks.

Transport for London have said it will remain on public transport and I also see businesses saying they will keep it and also expect customers to do the same.

SarahGard83 · Jan 22, 2022

Well that's me testing positive. Second time. Son is currently on day 5 so had a feeling I'd get it again

50sGirl · Jan 22, 2022

Why is it that those who wear masks are told they’ve been manipulated?
And that we “get off” on fear?
And that we are sheep for having a vaccine?
I find that quite insulting tbh.
Why do the majority who choose not to do so feel that they are superior to those that do?
It’s my choice to wear a mask and to be vaccinated but I’m not superior to those who choose not to wear a mask or choose not to have a vaccine. It works both ways.

Superdude · Jan 22, 2022

50sGirl said:
Why is it that those who wear masks are told they’ve been manipulated?
And that we “get off” on fear?
And that we are sheep for having a vaccine?
I find that quite insulting tbh.
Why do the majority who choose not to do so feel that they are superior to those that do?
It’s my choice to wear a mask and to be vaccinated but I’m not superior to those who choose not to wear a mask or choose not to have a vaccine. It works both ways.

I feel the people who make these claims are very insecure, to the point of mental illness. They've become blinded to the realities of the pandemic, by ganging up together to accuse the majority of the population of being stupid. As they become more entrenched in their views they are determined to "shout down" everyone with an opposing view. Verifiable evidence is ignored but a random Instagram post is presented as scientific fact.

It's better to pity them.

Dollenganger · Jan 22, 2022

50sGirl said:
Why is it that those who wear masks are told they’ve been manipulated?
And that we “get off” on fear?
And that we are sheep for having a vaccine?
I find that quite insulting tbh.
Why do the majority who choose not to do so feel that they are superior to those that do?
It’s my choice to wear a mask and to be vaccinated but I’m not superior to those who choose not to wear a mask or choose not to have a vaccine. It works both ways.

They feel superior because they think that only their ‘superior’ brains understand or are able to process ‘the great awakening’. The rest of us are ‘still asleep’. The sort of people who say things like this are quite narcissistic in my experience and they therefore lack empathy for other people and they are disagreeable too and don’t care who they alienate.

Are the conspiracy theorists still saying that Covid ‘has not been isolated’? The ones I know stopped saying that when they caught covid themselves

Superdude said:
I feel the people who make these claims are very insecure, to the point of mental illness. They've become blinded to the realities of the pandemic, by ganging up together to accuse the majority of the population of being stupid. As they become more entrenched in their views they are determined to "shout down" everyone with an opposing view. Verifiable evidence is ignored but a random Instagram post is presented as scientific fact.

It's better to pity them.

I agree. The only time in my life that I was taken in by CTs was when I was mentally unwell.

StrawberryCream · Jan 22, 2022

Superdude said:
I feel the people who make these claims are very insecure, to the point of mental illness.

I think the same could be said about those still living in fear and refusing to believe covid is now endemic. The same people that ‘trust the science’ unless of course that science says we no longer need masks, social distancing, vaccine passes etc. I’m not talking about anyone on here but the state of some of the people on Twitter is laughable, claiming they will be wearing a mask FOREVER and anyone that doesn’t is a selfish cunt these people are definitely mentally stable!

Dollenganger · Jan 22, 2022

StrawberryCream said:
I think the same could be said about those still living in fear and refusing to believe covid is now endemic. The same people that ‘trust the science’ unless of course that science says we no longer need masks, social distancing, vaccine passes etc. I’m not talking about anyone on here but the state of some of the people on Twitter is laughable, claiming they will be wearing a mask FOREVER and anyone that doesn’t is a selfish cunt these people are definitely mentally stable!

There are extremes on both sides. Interestingly, most people I know who now are anti-mask or vaccine started off terrified of Covid. I know a few people who do genuinely live in fear. They are old and are afraid to be left alone if their partner dies. You can’t blame them for this can you?

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